UN Peacekeeping in Ukraine

Larniavc · Mar 20, 2025

Love365 said:
Why did all the experts on CNN keep saying
“Russia is bluffing” when the tanks were lined up ready to go in ?

Who knows why News outlets do what they do?

What does that have to do with Russia being untrustworthy (see the continued attacks by Russia on Ukrainian infrastructure) warmongers who only see the end to this conflict with the end of Ukraine as a sovereign nation?

Anyone who takes Putin at his word is a naïve child. Putin's Russia respects only strength and will ride roughshod over anyone who trusts him.

Hans Blaster · Mar 20, 2025

Love365 said:
Why did all the experts on CNN keep saying
“Russia is bluffing” when the tanks were lined up ready to go in ?

Who were these "experts"?

Desk trauma · Mar 20, 2025

Hans Blaster said:
Who were these "experts"?

TOP men.

Love365 · Mar 21, 2025

Love365 said:
India is in the original post.

India is a Democracy.

India is a member of the Commonwealth.

India has a large number of English speakers.

Getting thread back on track.

Gene2memE · Mar 21, 2025

Love365 said:
For UN Peacekeeping in Ukraine,

Why in Ukraine, why not in Russia?

Surely it's the aggressor that needs supervision, not the victim?

Love365 said:
Would you support UN Blue Helmets from
India, Brazil, and Australia?

Only if they're in a DMZ inside Russia's pre 2014 borders.

Love365 said:
I think both sides might support this.

What do you think?

Not a chance.

Love365 · Mar 24, 2025

We should make a peace deal with Russia
as soon as possible.

Because human rights in the United States
could start to fade away,
as the US starts shifting deeper into war mode.

Gene2memE · Mar 24, 2025

Love365 said:
We should make a peace deal with Russia as soon as possible.

Who is 'we'?

Russia is the aggressor here. Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia continues to bomb Ukrainian cities and destroy its infrastructure.

Russia should be the one making peace deals - it should be dragged to the table and forced to capitulate.

Love365 said:
Because human rights in the United States could start to fade away, as the US starts shifting deeper into war mode.

The US has spent most of the past 25 years actively at war. Do Iraq and Afghanistan ring any bells to you?

Those wars involved massively more spending on the part of the US than its support for Ukraine. Afghanistan is estimated to have cost the US somewhere between $1.6 and $2.2 trillion. Iraq cost even more, somewhere between $1.9 and $2.8 trillion.

Why would the US be shifting into "war mode" - at the expense of human rights - over its materiel support for Ukraine when conflicts it was directly involved in didn't?

The ideas you are presenting are tired and insipid pro-Russian talking points, which have been feebly disguised as questions and worries. The failure to engage with any responses makes it appear that these posts are coming from a particularly dim chatbot.

Merrill · Mar 24, 2025

Gene2memE said:
Who is 'we'?

Russia is the aggressor here. Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia continues to bomb Ukrainian cities and destroy its infrastructure.

Russia should be the one making peace deals - it should be dragged to the table and forced to capitulate.

The US has spent most of the past 25 years actively at war. Do Iraq and Afghanistan ring any bells to you?

Those wars involved massively more spending on the part of the US than its support for Ukraine. Afghanistan is estimated to have cost the US somewhere between $1.6 and $2.2 trillion. Iraq cost even more, somewhere between $1.9 and $2.8 trillion.

Why would the US be shifting into "war mode" - at the expense of human rights - over its materiel support for Ukraine when conflicts it was directly involved in didn't?

The ideas you are presenting are tired and insipid pro-Russian talking points, which have been feebly disguised as questions and worries. The failure to engage with any responses makes it appear that these posts are coming from a particularly dim chatbot.

Russia is not going to capitulate or make grandiose peace gestures

they have nukes and an army 10 times bigger than Ukraine

and please stop with the stupid "The ideas you are presenting are tired and insipid pro-Russian talking points" nonsense

wanting a peace deal and wanting the fighting to stop is not "presenting ...pro-Russian talking points"

Hans Blaster · Mar 24, 2025

Merrill said:
Russia is not going to capitulate or make grandiose peace gestures

they have nukes and an army 10 times bigger than Ukraine

Try more like 50% larger active military, and who cares about "nukes"? Russia will never use them.

Merrill said:
and please stop with the stupid "The ideas you are presenting are tired and insipid pro-Russian talking points" nonsense

wanting a peace deal and wanting the fighting to stop is not "presenting ...pro-Russian talking points"

The good news for you is that yours aren't insipid.

Love365 · Mar 24, 2025

Ukraine and Afghanistan

Which one costs more per day ?

Are we going to raise taxes to pay for the spending?

If not,
When does inflation start causing problems?

Gene2memE · Mar 24, 2025

Merrill said:
wanting a peace deal and wanting the fighting to stop is not "presenting ...pro-Russian talking points"

They're not. In and of themselves. But the OP continually recycles bizarre pro-Russian talking points.

Such as:

Russia should have been given automatic European Parliament seats in 1993.

The European Union does not function properly with Russia locked out.

In 2014 Russia believed they were acting in self defense, to stop NATO from taking their navy base in Crimea. That action caused more conflict between Russia and Ukraine, until it finally boiled over in 2022.

Russia was shocked that western countries started sending Ukraine weapons.

And that's just in this thread. It's a pattern of behaviour that is repeated ad nauseam elsewhere.

Merrill · Mar 25, 2025

Hans Blaster said:
Try more like 50% larger active military, and who cares about "nukes"? Russia will never use them.

The good news for you is that yours aren't insipid.

Explain to me why the political left in this country is suddenly all about getting into foreign wars, or even starting new ones

when they spent many years denouncing military adventures in Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuwait, etc.

is this the new "welfare & warfare" platform?

Gene2memE · Mar 25, 2025

Merrill said:
Explain to me why the political left in this country is suddenly all about getting into foreign wars, or even starting new ones

when they spent many years denouncing military adventures in Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuwait, etc.

Because "the political left" understands there is a fundamental difference between the supporting a people defending themselves from a foreign aggressor waging a war of imperialism, and supporting an act of aggression by your own country against a foreign nation.

Love365 · Mar 26, 2025

Love365 said:
Ukraine and Afghanistan

Which one costs more per day ?

Are we going to raise taxes to pay for the spending?

If not,
When does inflation start causing problems?

Stop the war so Ukraine can be rebuilt.

Something Europe can do.

Hans Blaster · Mar 26, 2025

Merrill said:
Explain to me why the political left in this country is suddenly all about getting into foreign wars, or even starting new ones

when they spent many years denouncing military adventures in Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuwait, etc.

is this the new "welfare & warfare" platform?

Do you mean the Democrats? 'Cause the Democrats have done plenty of war after the fall of the Soviet Union, they just haven't invaded Iraq yet.

Love365 · Mar 28, 2025

Hans Blaster said:
Do you mean the Democrats? 'Cause the Democrats have done plenty of war after the fall of the Soviet Union, they just haven't invaded Iraq yet.

Democrats want to keep messing with the Russian border.

If this proxy war causes a Draft,
then only do the Draft in Blue states.

Hans Blaster · Mar 28, 2025

Love365 said:
Democrats want to keep messing with the Russian border.

How? In what way have Democratic politicians done anything or even proposed to do anything to the Russian border. (Or any other politicians for that matter.)

Love365 said:
If this proxy war causes a Draft,
then only do the Draft in Blue states.

This is a fantasy not connected with reality.

Aryeh Jay · Mar 28, 2025

Gene2memE said:
They're not. In and of themselves. But the OP continually recycles bizarre pro-Russian talking points.

Such as:

Russia should have been given automatic European Parliament seats in 1993.

The European Union does not function properly with Russia locked out.

In 2014 Russia believed they were acting in self defense, to stop NATO from taking their navy base in Crimea. That action caused more conflict between Russia and Ukraine, until it finally boiled over in 2022.

Russia was shocked that western countries started sending Ukraine weapons.

And that's just in this thread. It's a pattern of behaviour that is repeated ad nauseam elsewhere.

Sounds like you are just afraid of learning Russian and little people.

More thread topics...

Desk trauma · Mar 30, 2025

Hans Blaster said:
This is a fantasy not connected with reality.

An apt summation of their posts.

Love365 · Apr 5, 2025

Love365 said:
Ukraine and Afghanistan

Which one costs more per day ?

Are we going to raise taxes to pay for the spending?

If not,
When does inflation start causing problems?

It would seem the US is using tariffs to pay for the war in Ukraine.
It costs more per day than Afghanistan

It uses more tanks,
more tank shells per day.

It uses more large artillery,
more large artillery shells per day.

It uses more rockets per day.

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