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San Francisco Pride loses $300,000 as companies including Comcast and Diageo reevaluate sponsorships

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There is a great deal of disinformation out there about Pride parades. The Folsom Street Fair, where you commonly see used in propaganda against LGBT persons, is not a Pride event. It's a fetish / kink event in San Francisco that isn't connected to Pride. FSF has people of various orientations involved in it, it isn't exclusive to gay people.
 
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There is a great deal of disinformation out there about Pride parades. The Folsom Street Fair, where you commonly see used in propaganda against LGBT persons, is not a Pride event. It's a fetish / kink event in San Francisco that isn't connected to Pride. FSF has people of various orientations involved in it, it isn't exclusive to gay people.
Well that might be the worst of the worst, but surely you aren't claiming that the Pride event doesn't have any of that in it. If it does then you are just trying to deflect.
 
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Well that might be the worst of the worst, but surely you aren't claiming that the Pride event doesn't have any of that in it.

If it does then you are just trying to deflect.

Pride parades generally don't allow nudity, they are meant to be family-friendly events.
 
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Pride parades generally don't allow nudity, they are meant to be family-friendly events.
Some don't have those rules. Some do. The OP is dealing with the private sector not wanting to support the San Francisco event which is known to have nudity and perversion. We arent talking about a parade in Akron Ohio where there isn't any of that.
 
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Pride parades generally don't allow nudity, they are meant to be family-friendly events.




The Seattle one certainly did.

That was one of the few times that Snopes actually rated a Fox News claim as "True"



The "Kink at Pride" is actually something of point of controversy among some of the organizers and participants.


And evidently, this particular writer for the Washington Post isn't even trying to hide it.

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The man paused to be spanked playfully by a partner with a flog. “What are they doing?” my curious kid asked as our toddler cheered them on. The pair was the first of a few dozen kinksters who danced down the street, laughing together as they twirled their whips and batons, some leading companions by leashes. At the time, my children were too young to understand the nuance of the situation, but I told them the truth: That these folks were members of our community celebrating who they are and what they like to do.

The Article is referring to the Philly pride parade...certainly not a "fringe" pride parade by any means. It's one of the larger ones.

So...I think we can stop sanitizing what happens at some of these events.


This notion that "everything that two gay people want to do is, by default, an extension of gayness, and therefore has to be celebrated in the name of being pro-LGBTQ" is not going to do the gay community any favors.
 
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I don't see any inherent issue with fetishes, BDSM being included in pride discourse. Just like LGBT issues can be expressed in a non-over the top sexual stereotype, the same holds true for various fetishes, BDSM issues.

Activists for LGBT issues will (correctly) tell you that LGBT issues go beyond the sexual, that they also included the romantic. The same holds true for various fetishes, BDSM. You have people in these scenes who report having no sex drive and view these things personally as totally non-sexual. These over the top clownish images of fetishism, BDSM isn't a fair or honest reason to kick people who care about these issues out of the discourse.

I agree, displays of sexuality shouldn't be done in front of children. The fact that some people in the fetish, BDSM scene encourages such things should be called rightfully called out but it's not reason enough to ban discission of various fetishes, BDSM out of pride.

As someone who cares about these issues I don't like seeing people looking like clowns walking around in public with BDSM gear. Instead I envision fetish, BDSM at pride having a non-sexual tone. Educational booths, scientific conferences and other educational tools to explore and explain the various psychologies of fetishes, BDSM.

A place to provide education to vanilla parents about the psychology of various fetishes, BDSM. How to watch out for danger signs, and resources for knowledgeable therapists for tougher cases.

Like it or not, some people seem to be born with these desires and deserve some proper education with how to deal and process their emotions. BDSM related fantasies are found to be present in some capacity for most of humanity. I believe these things being at pride is a matter of public psychological health.

I wish I had some resources and a more knowledgeable society to help me process my own psychological issues growing up. Many other people in various fetishes, BDSM scene report the same. Many feeling like society let them down.

If companies don't want to support that, that's their right. But yeah .. I don't feel bad for LGBT people who whine about kink at pride. Not to mention a lot of them don't want kink at pride because they don't want to see white heterosexual being there other than as mere allies. Because to some of them they are so invested with the shallow idea that if you are a white straight man you cannot possibly have any issues of your own. It's really just petty hierarchal victimhood nonsense.
 
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Some don't have those rules. Some do. The OP is dealing with the private sector not wanting to support the San Francisco event which is known to have nudity and perversion. We arent talking about a parade in Akron Ohio where there isn't any of that.
That doesn’t surprise me, sadly.
 
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I would honestly consider it a Trump effect.

The country just spoke saying no, there's definitely a "too far" with this stuff, and companies are trying to strike a balance with their image profile to reflect a better balance more in line with the people they are wanting to sell their products to.

That's what I figured.
I agree!
 
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