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Douglas Wilson Argues That Giving Women the Right To Vote Is the Result of ‘Men Becoming Spiritual Eunuchs’

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Pastor Douglas Wilson of Christ Church in Moscow, Idaho, made waves online after arguing against women’s right to vote in a video last week.

In the video, Wilson seemed to frame the ratification of the 19th Amendment as a repudiation of the institution of the family and a man’s duty to represent his family in the public sphere.

Wilson has long been a controversial figure—both inside and outside the evangelical movement—for his charitable views of Christian nationalism and American chattel slavery, how his church has handled allegations of sexual abuse, and his methods for engaging culture, referred to by some as the “Moscow mood.”

“The problem can be called by many names,” Wilson said at the beginning of the video. “The men of our generation have had a failure of nerve. They have abdicated their responsibilities, and we are consequently in the midst of a crisis of leadership.”

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Well hmmmm... the article linked does say that he sent an email that says..

In an email to ChurchLeaders, Wilson clarified that his issue “is not men voting or women voting, in my mind, but the fact that households no longer have a voice.”

BUT - I read the article and it sounds like about 90-99% of his issue is women having rights in general, with voting being the one he is writing about at the moment.
 
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Is he wrong? Men no longer have the patriarchal attitude necessary to even resist women exercising equal power. Yet we know man is the leader and only he is capable of headship in the home, Church or society more broadly. Though there are always exceptions this is the general rule and it's a good rule to follow.
 
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Pastor Douglas Wilson of Christ Church in Moscow, Idaho, made waves online after arguing against women’s right to vote in a video last week.

In the video, Wilson seemed to frame the ratification of the 19th Amendment as a repudiation of the institution of the family and a man’s duty to represent his family in the public sphere.

Wilson has long been a controversial figure—both inside and outside the evangelical movement—for his charitable views of Christian nationalism and American chattel slavery, how his church has handled allegations of sexual abuse, and his methods for engaging culture, referred to by some as the “Moscow mood.”

“The problem can be called by many names,” Wilson said at the beginning of the video. “The men of our generation have had a failure of nerve. They have abdicated their responsibilities, and we are consequently in the midst of a crisis of leadership.”

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Ahh...no. Some men have long abdicated roles of spiritual leadership. In Acts 16:11-13, Paul and Silas go to Philippi and on the Sabbath went to to the river where people went to pray and spoke to the women gathered there. Where were the men? Many a church would have folded had it not been for the faithfulness of the women.
 
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Pastor Douglas Wilson of Christ Church in Moscow, Idaho, made waves online after arguing against women’s right to vote in a video last week.

In the video, Wilson seemed to frame the ratification of the 19th Amendment as a repudiation of the institution of the family and a man’s duty to represent his family in the public sphere.

Wilson has long been a controversial figure—both inside and outside the evangelical movement—for his charitable views of Christian nationalism and American chattel slavery, how his church has handled allegations of sexual abuse, and his methods for engaging culture, referred to by some as the “Moscow mood.”

“The problem can be called by many names,” Wilson said at the beginning of the video. “The men of our generation have had a failure of nerve. They have abdicated their responsibilities, and we are consequently in the midst of a crisis of leadership.”

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:ahah:....... Oh my goodness! The political and ideological idiocy never ends.

No, all that's happened here is that Wilson has become encrusted in his own political and social preferences and foisted them upon the Bible.

Here's an idea: let's stop pretending that where the Bible is concerned, some one denomination (or teacher) has all of the final answers about it.
 
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:ahah:....... Oh my goodness! The political and ideological idiocy never ends.

No, all that's happened here is that Wilson has become encrusted in his own political and social preferences and foisted them upon the Bible.

Here's an idea: let's stop pretending that where the Bible is concerned, some one denomination (or teacher) has all of the final answers about it.

I'm fairly certain Douglas Wilson isn't a biblical fundamentalist- his religion differs sharply from the typical American fundamentalism that grew out of 19th century Princeton theology. He's just an insecure cultural reactionary that seems the glass well below half full.
 
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