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Revelation 11 and Revelation 12

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You did not state the 1335 days, the 1290 days, the 1260 days as being the end of anything in your post #74.
I most certainly did, you just did not grasp it. BELOW IN RED........Ended post #74

(Post 74 ending) "You miss it all by overthinking, when do ALL THESE WONDERS and ALL THESE THINGS END? With Jesus' 2nd coming of course. Thus the 1335 comes first, the 1290 next and lastly the 1260".

You presented them as a sequence. 1335 days first. The 1290 days second. Then 1260 days third.

Thus the 1335 comes first, the 1290 next and lastly the 1260.
Yes, and the fulcrum point is the 2nd Coming which ENDS ALL THESE WONDERS (Dan. 12:6 question by the Angel) and it also ENDS ALL THESE THINGS (Dan. 12:8 question by Daniel).

Why is this so hard to grasp? Because God locked it up until the end but humans are human, we tend to stick to what we know, or what thought we knew was true. The A.C. not being the 1290 destroys all of our old thought processes. Lets look at this, because these three numbers unlock all end time eschatology.

So, in Dan. 11 we get a rundown of every Greek King from Alexander the Great to Antiochus, then are shown the end time A.C. in verses 36-45 who will be a Greek born man, who arises to power in the E.U. Thus in Dan. 12 as the Man in Linen another two angels, one being Gabriel for sure, explain these things to Daniel in Daniel 12 they start out saying at the time vs. 36-45 happens this will be the very end of time [under Satan's Age of authority]. Then we get the explanation of WHEN THESE WONDERS WILL END as asked by the Angel to a pre incarnate Jesus (Man in Linen). He answers in verse 7 but in vs. 8 Daniel still does not understand (of course it was locked up until the very end) an d asks the exact same question but merely in a "different way" so he says WHEN SHALL THESE THINGS (Dan. 11:36-45) END?

A Preincarnate Jesus (Man in Linen) and Gabriel explains Daniel 11's end of time scenario.

Daniel 11:1
And at that time(70th week events seen in Dan. 11:36-45) shall Michael stand up(Rev. 12), the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble(3.5 years), such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered(the 1/3 Jews who flee Judea and are PROTECTED for 1260 days), every one that shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. 4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. 5 Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two(Angels, one being Gabriel as always with Daniel it seems), the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.

6 And one said to the man clothed in linen(a preincarnate Jesus), which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half(1260 days); and when he(Anti-Christ shown in Dan. 11:36-45) shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people(conquers them), all these things shall be finished.

[ ALL WHAT THINGS? Well, all those things spoken about in Dan. 11:36-45, where it talks about the coming Anti-Christ or the HE in verse 7 who SCATTERS the power of Israel (holy peoples...the word means CALLED OUT ONE, and Israel were a chosen people called out by God, separated by God to birth the Messiah). So, when the children of Israel gets conquered, Jesus (Man in Linen) states there will be ONLY 1260 days from that point in time until (he answers the question, so this is what he is saying) ALL THESE WONDERS END, So, from tht we know the Anti-Christ only rules as a Beast for a specific period of time, 1260 days]

8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? 9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. 10 Many shall be purified(Church Age interval), and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

[ Now, below Jesus decides to give Daniel a couple more nuggets bout when ALL OF THESE THINGS in Daniel 11:36-45 will end, but he does so in a way that keeps it from being known unto Daniel or anyone else until the very end of time. Just like with the 1260 Anti-Christ (He) Jesus only gives two more numbers not who they are nr what tile they will hold. We have to figure that out. Only in these end times looking back can we grasp it ]

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice(Jesus is our daily Sacrifice, not some profane Meat Sacrifice) shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days [UNTIL ALL THESE THINGS END]...was the question

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.(Blessed is the men who live at the 1335 day mark, that precedes the event which ENDS ALL THINGS THINGS, 1335 days later)

13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

So, why is this not evident? The question was the exact same question in verses 6 and 8. The 2nd Coming of Jesus will end the Anti-Christ's life right? Well, the 2nd coming is 1260 days away from that event. Alaa, the 1290 AoD is 1290 days away from the 2nd coming ending all these things, and the 1335 is 1335 days away from ending all these things, meaning the BLESSING is the Two-witnesses showing up to get Israel to repent before the DOTL (God's Wrath falls). Both Malachi 4:5 and Zech. 13:8-9 conjoined with Zech. 14:1 confirms this timeline, Israel repents JUST BEFORE God's Wrath falls. Who gets them to repent? Well, Elijah is one of the Two-witnesses of course, so they are THE BLESSING (1335). The False Prophet is the 1290, this gives the Jews 30 days to flee Judea, if the A.C. was the AoD guy then Israel would already be conquered, so why give them a SIGN after they get conquered? Makes NO SENSE at all !! The False Prophet, a Jewish High Priest after the order of Jason under Antiochus, will make a decree/edict that forbids Jesus Worship in the Temple, maybe in all Jerusalem, AND he will then place an IMAGE of the E.U. President up in the temple, go read Rev. 13 WHO gets the PEOPLE to make an IMAGE of the 1st Beast? The 2nd Beast False Prophet, not the A.C.
 
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I most certainly did, you just did not grasp it. BELOW IN RED........Ended post #74

(Post 74 ending) "You miss it all by overthinking, when do ALL THESE WONDERS and ALLTHESE THINGS END? With Jesus' 2nd coming of course. Thus the 1335 comes first, the 1290 next and lastly the 1260".


Yes, and the fulcrum point is the 2nd Coming which ENDS ALL THESE WONDERS (Dan. 12:6 question by the Angel) and it also ENDS ALL THESE THINGS (Dan. 12:8 question by Daniel).

Why id this so hard to grasp? Because God locked it up until the end but humans are human, we tend to stick to what we know, or what thought we knew was true. The A.C. not being the 1290 destroys all of our old thought processes. Lets look at this, because these three numbers unlock all end time eschatology.

So, in Dan. 11 we get a rundown of every Greek King from Alexander the Great to Antiochus, then are shown the end time A.C. in verses 36-45 who will be a Greek born man, who arises to power in the E.U. Thus in Dan. 12 as the Man in Linen another two angels, one being Gabriel for sure, explain these things to Daniel in Daniel 12 they start out saying at the time vs. 36-45 happens this will be the very end of time [under Satan's Age of authority]. Then we get the explanation of WHEN THESE WONDERS WILL END as asked by the Angel to a pre incarnate Jesus (Man in Linen). He answers in verse 7 but in vs. 8 Daniel still does not understand (of course it was locked up until the very end) an d asks the exact same question but merely in a "different way" so he says WHEN SHALL THESE THINGS (Dan. 11:36-45) END?

A Preincarnate Jesus (Man in Linen) and Gabriel explains Daniel 11's end of time scenario.

Daniel 11:1
And at that time(70th week events seen in Dan. 11:36-45) shall Michael stand up(Rev. 12), the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble(3.5 years), such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered(the 1/3 Jews who flee Judea and are PROTECTED for 1260 days), every one that shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. 4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. 5 Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two(Angels, one being Gabriel as always with Daniel it seems), the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.

6 And one said to the man clothed in linen(a preincarnate Jesus), which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half(1260 days); and when he(Anti-Christ shown in Dan. 11:36-45) shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people(conquers them), all these things shall be finished.

[ ALL WHAT THINGS? Well, all those things spoken about in Dan. 11:36-45, where it talks about the coming Anti-Christ or the HE in verse 7 who SCATTERS the power of Israel (holy peoples...the word means CALLED OUT ONE, and Israel were a chosen people called out by God, separated by God to birth the Messiah). So, when the children of Israel gets conquered, Jesus (Man in Linen) states there will be ONLY 1260 days from that point in time until (he answers the question, so this is what he is saying) ALL THESE WONDERS END, So, from tht we know the Anti-Christ only rules as a Beast for a specific period of time, 1260 days]

8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? 9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. 10 Many shall be purified(Church Age interval), and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

[ Now, below Jesus decides to give Daniel a couple more nuggets bout when ALL OF THESE THINGS in Daniel 11:36-45 will end, but he does so in a way that keeps it from being known unto Daniel or anyone else until the very end of time. Just like with the 1260 Anti-Christ (He) Jesus only gives two more numbers not who they are nr what tile they will hold. We have to figure that out. Only in these end times looking back can we grasp it ]

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice(Jesus is our daily Sacrifice, not some profane Meat Sacrifice) shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days [UNTIL ALL THESE THINGS END]...was the question

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.(Blessed is the men who live at the 1335 day mark, that precedes the event which ENDS ALL THINGS THINGS, 1335 days later)

13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

So, why is this not evident? The question was the exact same question in verses 6 and 8. The 2nd Coming of Jesus will end the Anti-Christ's life right? Well, the 2nd coming is 1260 days away from that event. Alaa, the 1290 AoD is 1290 days away from the 2nd coming ending all these things, and the 1335 is 1335 days away from ending all these things, meaning the BLESSING is the Two-witnesses showing up to get Israel to repent before the DOTL (God's Wrath falls). Both Malachi 4:5 and Zech. 13:8-9 conjoined with Zech. 14:1 confirms this timeline, Israel repents JUST BEFORE God's Wrath falls. Who gets them to repent? Well, Elijah is one of the Two-witnesses of course, so they are THE BLESSING (1335). The False Prophet is the 1290, this gives the Jews 30 days to flee Judea, if the A.C. was the AoD guy then Israel would already be conquered, so why give them a SIGN after they get conquered? Makes NO SENSE at all !! The False Prophet, a Jewish High Priest after the order of Jason under Antiochus, will make a decree/edict that forbids Jesus Worship in the Temple, maybe in all Jerusalem, AND he will then place an IMAGE of the E.U. President up in the temple, go read Re. 13 WHO gets the PEOPLE to make an IMAGE of the 1st Beast? The 2nd Beast False Prophet, not the A.C.
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Way to dodge like you always do with a graph that is WRONG.
You could produce a diagram of your own making if you want to. And then post it.

"the 1335 comes first, the 1290 next and lastly the 1260".

Do you mean 1335th day, 1290th day, 1260th day ? Each being only one day long.

or do you mean the 1335 day time frame, the 1290 day time frame, the 1260 day time frame. Each being a block of time of that many days.

Work on your communications.
 
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God will send strong delusion to them who believe the Antichrist's claim of having achieved God-hood, by bringing the person back alive from the mortal wound he will have received (i.e. assassinated for his outlandish claim).

When the world sees him come back to life - they will be deluded to think his claim of having achieved God-hood as actually being true.
Opinion is good for nothing. What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, understand?
Revelation 11:15 and 18
15...The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the Kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever. (1Cor.15:24-27: -->24The END cometh,when he shall have delivered up the Kingdom to GOD,even the Father; when he shall have put down ALL RULE and all AUTHORITY and POWER. ... )


18And the nations were(WILL BE)angry,and GOD's WRATH is come...and should destroy them which destroy the earth

The message above was written around 95AD to be LITERALLY fulfilled in the future(Revelation 1:1) ,
and now, even now, from now on, the prophecy will LITERALLY be executed, for GOD is wrathed against all nations and they will be destroyed, include the current Israel, and only and only will be saved a remnant of Israel-Micah 7:18-20, in fact only 144K will be saved-Revelation 7:1-8. And the others?

The others? Matthew 23:33-35

33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers (why serpents? why generation of vipers? The answer is in John 8:44. Take a look), how can ye escape the DAMNATION of HELL?

34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:

35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

The Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, understand?


Get ready
 
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You could produce a diagram of your own making if you want to. And then post it.

"the 1335 comes first, the 1290 next and lastly the 1260".

Do you mean 1335th day, 1290th day, 1260th day ? Each being only one day long.

or do you mean the 1335 day time frame, the 1290 day time frame, the 1260 day time frame. Each being a block of time of that many days.

Work on your communications.
You work on your ability t comprehend other. Here is what I think, you use this as an EXCUSE to have to answer others, you play like you do not understand, I never bought it.

Now, here we have a guy folks who insist on these graph tables et al. When Jesus never used them, nor the holy spirit. You pretending to not grasp points is the funniest thing I have ever seen from a brother in Christ Jesus. But your heart knows that you indeed understand. Ohh, of I cant get graphs, I can[t discuss it really means its an excuse so I wont have to discuss it because your points prove me to be in error.
 
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You work on your ability t comprehend other. Here is what I think, you use this as an EXCUSE to have to answer others, you play like you do not understand, I never bought it.

Now, here we have a guy folks who insist on these graph tables et al. When Jesus never used them, nor the holy spirit. You pretending to not grasp points is the funniest thing I have ever seen from a brother in Christ Jesus. But your heart knows that you indeed understand. Ohh, of I cant get graphs, I can[t discuss it really means its an excuse so I wont have to discuss it because your points prove me to be in error.
You are not communicating like Jesus did. Jesus did not say at the three, for example.

Jesus said three days and three nights in Matthew 12:40. Jesus said he would rise again on the third day. Not on the third. But on the third day. Matthew 20:19.

You wrote...

"the 1335 comes first, the 1290 next and lastly the 1260".

....do you mean the 1335th day comes first, the1290th day next and lastly the 1260th day ?

or do you mean the 1335 day period comes first, the 1290 day period next, and lastly the 1260 day period?

You should also state 1335 days from when, to when. And 1290 days from when, to when.
And 1260 days from when, to when.
 
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The 70 Weeks prophecy in the Book of Daniel has been fulfilled. It was fulfilled by the end of 70 AD.

The prophecy in the Book of Daniel concerned the building of the second temple and the destruction of the second temple.


The first seven weeks (49 years) were for the building of the second temple.
For the next sixty-two weeks, the Israelites/Jews participated in temple worship. The 70th week began after Jesus died on the cross and it ended in 70 AD when the temple and Jerusalem were destroyed.

Jesus explains to his listeners that Daniel's vision would soon take place in their own generation:

Matthew 24:15-16 Therefore, when you see the abomination of desolation, about which the prophet Daniel spoke, standing in the Holy Place (let the reader understand), 16 then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains, 17 the one who is standing on the roof must not come down to collect what is in his house, 18 and someone who is in the field must not turn back to retrieve his coat.

What is this abomination of desolation that Daniel prophesied about?

Jesus tells them it will be the Roman armies which will surround Jerusalem:


Luke 21:20-21 When you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you may be certain that her desolation is near. 21 Then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains, and those who are within the city must escape from its boundaries, and those who are in country areas must not return.
 
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Interesting. Is there a way to fit the 1/2 day somewhere in or after the verse below?

Matthew 12:40
"For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."


I am guessing it would belong somewhere in the first half of the fourth day, right?
Half a week would be from 6pm on our Saturday to 6am Wednesday morning.

The last half would be from 6am Wednesday to 6pm the next Saturday.

Anything on Sunday would be after the 7 days.

So why a week, and why not 7 years? John wrote the days of the 7th Trumpet, not the years of the 7th Trumpet:

"But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets."

"And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate"

It would make sense that these days of the 7th Trumpet could be split in half, with the 42 months given to Satan.

Does this happen on a Wednesday morning at 6am:

"And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them."

The end of their ministry, would also be the end of those 42 months given to Satan. However 3.5 days later is Sunday. By the end of the day on Sunday around 5pm is the one hour battle of Armageddon.

"And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them."

The only battle where humanity is defeated is Armageddon.

So God inserts 42 months starting at 6am Wednesday, and then again at 6am Satan kills the 2 witnesses. While they lay dead in Jerusalem, the 7 vials are poured out. The earthquake finishes the week at 6pm Saturday.
 
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