With the Democratic Party drop Joe Biden?

Joe Biden won't serve a whole term
Joe Biden won't run for reelection
Joe Biden won't debate Trump
Joe Biden won't be the 2024 nominee

Just remember how all these predictions turned out when you start repeating "Joe Biden won't win in 2024."

Hazelelponi said:

Well... While I don't care a lot for Dore (he cusses so I don't watch him much) let's not call him dumb for supporting Trump. It's quite unnecessary.

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I don’t call him dumb because he supports Trump. I call him dumb because I listened to his set and his commentary was written by and for people on the left side of the bell curve.

Pommer said:

Complaints that one’s own side is under represented in the larger world (news media) could either spur one to adopt a set of more centrist positions or further fuel complaints that their unpopular ideas are unpopular.

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It wasn't a complaint really, just an observation. As for what's popular, I know the world in general is bent towards destruction.

Hans Blaster said:

Others who agree should join you.

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If there are enough of us we might save this country. Otherwise we get to put up with one of two very bad choices.

Pommer said:

All that was needed was for Pence to be pushed out of the way of performing his Constitutionally mandated duties by overseeing the certification of Joe Biden’s victory over Donald Trump.
If that had been accomplished then we would have been in an extra-constitutional situation and the election would have ultimately wound up in SCOTUS.

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But it didn't happen, did it? And if it did happen there are millions of us that would have put it down. No need. Nothing of significance actually happened.

chevyontheriver said:

If there are enough of us we might save this country. Otherwise we get to put up with one of two very bad choices.

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I say go for it. One of these tottering old parties should break...

Hans Blaster said:

I say go for it. One of these tottering old parties should break...

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I hope they both do. They are as geriatric as their standard bearers.

iluvatar5150 said:

I don’t call him dumb because he supports Trump. I call him dumb because I listened to his set and his commentary was written by and for people on the left side of the bell curve.

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Reading this in Fraser Crane’s voice (in mine noodle), is like Marin in teriyaki sauce.

Ceallaigh said:

It wasn't a complaint really, just an observation. As for what's popular, I know the world in general is bent towards destruction.

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So by standing in the way of “popular opinion” (which is the defining principle in us lurching our society along, one lousy step-at-a-time), you’re saving us from ourselves?

It’s rare to see altruism displayed thusly.

Pommer said:

Reading this in Fraser Crane’s voice (in mine noodle), is like Marin in teriyaki sauce.

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I don’t know what “Marin in teriyaki sauce” is, but “Maris in teriyaki sauce” sounds like one of Niles’ punchlines.

iluvatar5150 said:

I don’t know what “Marin in teriyaki sauce” is, but “Maris in teriyaki sauce” sounds like one of Niles’ punchlines.

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Marin’s a sweet saki that isn’t strictly necessary for a teriyaki sauce but it’s always nice if it’s in it.
Kudos, too on the “Maris” yuk.

Pommer said:

So by standing in the way of “popular opinion” (which is the defining principle in us lurching our society along, one lousy step-at-a-time), you’re saving us from ourselves?

It’s rare to see altruism displayed thusly.

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What exactly are we standing in the way of? If you make out a list, it will probably be a lot clearer as to why there's opposition.

Ceallaigh said:

What exactly are we standing in the way of?

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Good point, one of us should know what positions and opinions you hold.

Ceallaigh said:

If you make out a list, it will probably be a lot clearer as to why there's opposition.

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I do not know what you are against/for without you expressing that to me, except that you’re of the opinion that “the world in general is bent towards destruction”, so any deviation in the “way things are” would (generally) be seen as a step toward this “destruction”.

I guess, that’s the closest interpretation that I can get to your vague posts.

Pommer said:

Good point, one of us should know what positions and opinions you hold.

I do not know what you are against/for without you expressing that to me, except that you’re of the opinion that “the world in general is bent towards destruction”, so any deviation in the “way things are” would (generally) be seen as a step toward this “destruction”.

I guess, that’s the closest interpretation that I can get to your vague posts.

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No you said conservative Christians are standing in the way of progress. So what progressive things are being opposed?

Ceallaigh said:

No you said conservative Christians are standing in the way of progress. So what progressive things are being opposed?

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No, no, we have to go back to the comments that conservatives get short-shrift in the media-marketplace.

Public opinion drives societies (where having differing opinions is “allowed”), and that seems to have gotten away from conservatives’ control, and they find themselves having “unpopular” (which is not to say, invalid) opinions, relative to the general population as a whole.
I can see how that would be frustrating, but we all live in the same “system” and if intolerance for being more liberal, (socially, more than fiscally), has become unpopular, well, there’s not much I can help you with, there.

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No, no, we have to go back to the comments that conservatives get short-shrift in the media-marketplace.

Public opinion drives societies (where having differing opinions is “allowed”), and that seems to have gotten away from conservatives’ control, and they find themselves having “unpopular” (which is not to say, invalid) opinions, relative to the general population as a whole.
I can see how that would be frustrating, but we all live in the same “system” and if intolerance for being more liberal, (socially, more than fiscally), has become unpopular, well, there’s not much I can help you with, there.

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I can understand your aversion to listing those things Christianity is opposing.

As for popularity, according to @iluvatar5150 "Fox news, for example, consistently crushes its competition." On top of that I heard the conservative late night talk show Gutfeld is ahead of Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel and similar which panders to liberals. So apparently it's not a matter of conservative values being unpopular. Despite the excess of liberal talk shows and news networks. I think the side that's frustrated is woke liberalism, trying to change society for the worse, and continually experiencing setbacks because of too many people seeing how destructive it is.

iluvatar5150 said:

Libs win in print media because conservatives don’t read as much.

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Liberals without condescension, are like a day without sunshine.

RoBo1988 said:

Liberals without condescension, are like a day without sunshine.

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It's a very clear example of blatant propaganda. Liberals read, conservatives don't. Liberals are scientific, conservatives aren't. Liberals are artistic, conservatives aren't etc. I call it, liberal supremecy.

RoBo1988 said:

Liberals without condescension, are like a day without sunshine.

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I wasn't saying that to be condescending. Libs do better in print media than conservatives, while conservatives do better on tv/radio/podcast.

If you don't like that, take it up with your fellow conservatives.

Ceallaigh said:

It's a very clear example of blatant propaganda. Liberals read, conservatives don't. Liberals are scientific, conservatives aren't. Liberals are artistic, conservatives aren't etc. I call it, liberal supremecy.

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While I wouldn't say exactly what you did, one doesn't need liberal propaganda to arrive in that ballpark. One only need look at who works in those fields, or what sort of content comes out of each camp to get there.

Heck, conservatives' own propaganda feeds this: the mainstream media is liberal; the scientific establishment is liberal; the arts and entertainment industries are liberal... You guys have been dumping on those fields for decades, if not a century or more. Here and there, you've tried to set up parallel conservative-focused industries, like CCM, but by and large it hasn't been as good as the "liberal" or "worldly" alternatives it's been trying to substitute.

If conservatives want to be known as skilled in those fields, just go do them, and do them well, instead of whining about how you can't get taken seriously when putting out substandard work. But that isn't going to happen, because how are you supposed to develop talent in those fields when you spend a bunch of time deriding them?