Flat Earth Theory.

d taylor said:

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What puzzles me is why do you globe earth believers. Just admit you do not believe the creation account as given in The Bible. Instead of saying it is just poetry or teaching spiritual truths and is a parable or metaphorical. I mean do you think you are pulling one over on God by making Genesis 1 into a poem.

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I really believe that these guys on here believe Genesis 1 is poetry, Oh my do they have a lot to learn.

Apple Sky said:

I really believe that these guys on here believe Genesis 1 is poetry, Oh my do they have a lot to learn.

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I don’t believe Genesis 1 is poetry. I do believe people are misinterpreting it to say what they want it to say. There’s a lot of playing of semantics going on with FE folks.

Phil G said:

I don’t believe Genesis 1 is poetry. I do believe people are misinterpreting it to say what they want it to say. There’s a lot of playing of semantics going on with FE folks.

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What is going on is that us flat earthers take Genesis to be true & you guys don't.

Apple Sky said:

What is going on is that us flat earthers take Genesis to be true & you guys don't.

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No, I just interpret Genesis 1 according to the language used. FE folks try to pin down words to specific meanings when the original word meanings are not so narrow. The broader meanings allow for other interpretations.

didactics said:

But that's still a form of poetry right?

But can't a reflection of light still be considered light? the Bible doesn't need to make it clear that the lesser light is a reflection of the greater light for it to be true right?

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Well would you ever call a lighthouse a reflector house or would you install a reflector in a room to light the room.

If you have an example of a light reflector being considered and refereed to as a light . Can you provide an example, because i am not familiar with a reflector being thought of as that way, as a light.

Phil G said:

The assumption you are making here is that the Hebrew word for 'light' always means that an object is its own origin of light. It does not. In the verse below it is used to figuratively talk about the light of the eyes:

"The light of the eyes rejoiceth the heart: and a good report maketh the bones fat." Proverbs 15:30 KJV

The word Hebrew word for 'light' is not as definitive as you are trying to make it.

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I am not making an assumption, you are telling me that God is going to in the very same verse. Have two completely different meanings for the Hebrew word for light. Not because of any verse found in The Bible, but because some silly declaration by men of science. That the moon is not an actual light, but reflects the suns light.

Now talking about bringing in garbage to a Bible study, If you are going to prove something in The Bible prove it using The Bible.

d taylor said:

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I am not making an assumption, you are telling me that God is going to in the very same verse. Have two completely different meanings for the Hebrew word for light. Not because of any verse found in The Bible, but because some silly declaration by men of science. That the moon is not an actual light, but reflects the suns light.

Now talking about bringing in garbage to a Bible study, If you are going to prove something in The Bible prove it using The Bible.

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No I didn’t say that, merely that the meaning of ‘light’ is not diffinitive. It is vague, it neither defines the origin of the light sun nor the origin of the light of the moon. It just say ‘lights’ without defining either object as self-luminous.

didactics said:

But that's still a form of poetry right?

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I do not think so. Poetry is a specific play with words to create some language/sound features, which is not the case with mythology. However, the days repetition in Gen 1 can be seen as such feature, so from this view, it has poetical features.

Apple Sky said:

I really believe that these guys on here believe Genesis 1 is poetry, Oh my do they have a lot to learn.

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You need reputable, solid sources to learn. Which is what you lack. Watching crazy or biased videos full of disinformation is not learning.

d taylor said:

So the moon is a created light and does not reflect the light of the sun. Because that is what Genesis 1 is saying God created two great lights (sun and moon) and not a great light and a great light reflector​

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That has nothing to do with the shape of the earth.

My position is that I agree with the late John Stott who said; "the Bible tells us THAT God made the earth. I tend to believe it's the job of scientists to tell us HOW."
Genesis does not tell us HOW God created - how he made ladybirds chaffinches, owls, whales, hippos, eagles, worms etc. Or how he decided some creatures should have feathers and others fur or scales. Or how he made the sun and what its properties are - etc etc. It is not a science textbook; its purpose is not to go into scientific detail.
God made the world - GOD. It was not made by angels, cherubs or a god, nor was it a chance result which happened when 2 atoms collided. The world has a maker.

I've been out walking this afternoon. It's a bit windy but the sun is shining, the bluebells are out and trees are covered in delicate blossom. Birds are singing; I had hoped to see a kingfisher, but didn't.
The world around us is beautiful - and as someone has said, we can say "my Dad made that!"

And yet it seems that all we Christians can do is argue with each other about the nature of that creation, how exactly God did things. If something is not mentioned in Scripture, apparently it didn't happen;. If someone doesn't believe a verse literally, they are doubting Scripture etc etc.

It's true what they say about the devil not needing to attack Christians - we do that ourselves.

Strong in Him said:

That has nothing to do with the shape of the earth.

My position is that I agree with the late John Stott who said; "the Bible tells us THAT God made the earth. I tend to believe it's the job of scientists to tell us HOW."
Genesis does not tell us HOW God created - how he made ladybirds chaffinches, owls, whales, hippos, eagles, worms etc. Or how he decided some creatures should have feathers and others fur or scales. Or how he made the sun and what its properties are - etc etc. It is not a science textbook; its purpose is not to go into scientific detail.
God made the world - GOD. It was not made by angels, cherubs or a god, nor was it a chance result which happened when 2 atoms collided. The world has a maker.

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How & did are two very different concepts.

Phil G said:

No, I just interpret Genesis 1 according to the language used.

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So your interpreting the Bible ? Hmm.

Apple Sky said:

So your interpreting the Bible ? Hmm.

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We all do, including you. Hmm

trophy33 said:

You need reputable, solid sources to learn. Which is what you lack.

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Gee - Thanks

Apple Sky said:

Gee - Thanks

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Welcome.

Phil G said:

I don’t believe Genesis 1 is poetry. I do believe people are misinterpreting it to say what they want it to say.

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I read, write & say from what is written, so how are people misinterpreting Genesis 1 ?

trophy33 said:

Watching crazy or biased videos full of disinformation is not learning.

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But your posts are ?

Apple Sky said:

But your posts are ?

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No, learning requires you to pay attention and to reflect what is written in my posts, either with a proper argumentation or acceptance. Which is not the case, you simply ignore them and continue with some new nonsense you just found on youtube.

Apple Sky said:

I read, write & say from what is written, so how are people misinterpreting Genesis 1 ?

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When a word has broader meanings, and you choose one of those meanings over another, that is interpretation.

And you certainly interpret what I say when you imply that I don’t believe Genesis 1. I do believe Genesis 1 as it is written & I do take a literal approach to it. But I choose a different approach to you by saying it is not as definitive as you claim. I base that on the language used & the meanings of words as well as the context in which it was written.

And I can say that legitimately without denying Genesis 1 as it is written.

Apple Sky said:

How & did are two very different concepts.

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??

I'm saying that God created the world; he did it.
Genesis does not explain how he did it.

What are you talking about?