Transgenderism Is A Real Threat To Christians

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You see the condition of society today, especially in America and the West. Everything is ripe for Jesus return. You have the major world powers opposed to each other over wars. You have homosexuality and "strange flesh" being adopted as "normal" and promoted all over the world, by the US government! Don't believe that? This is taken strait from the US State Departments website:
"It shall be the policy of the United States to pursue an end to violence and discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, or sex characteristics, and to lead by the power of our example in the cause of advancing the human rights of LGBTQI+ persons around the world.” PRESIDENT JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR." Advancing the Human Rights of LGBTQI+ Persons Around the World - United States Department of State
Hang on...do you think violence and discrimination against gay people is ok..?
 
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Hang on...do you think violence and discrimination against gay people is ok..?
No, violence against anyone isn't ok, unless you're defending self or family, or in some circumstances, war. But it goes way further than what they're saying. They are literally blackmailing other nations if they don't adopt the LGBTQ policies, they won't get US funding, and that includes promoting it to children, and providing for surgeries, and all the things that are NOT ok.
But a much bigger problem is USA will be judged as was Sodom and Gomorrah for the very sins of Sodom & Gomorrah, and the murder of babies, and for violence of all kind, and the occult.

Furthermore, "discrimination" could be considered this post, and many other posts on this thread, which of course is freedom of speech, but they want to take that away from us, to promote pure evil.
The White House is down for this as well:

Furthermore as if to exacerbate this sin, "
U.S. Foreign Aid Used to Push Abortion, Gender Ideology Around the World" - which I know has been going on since at least 2023 when this article was written

At this rate the protection of God will be lifted, that Kim Jong Un may well get a nuke or two through to our cities! Judgment SHALL COME for these awful and deplorable sins against a holy God! Repent and turn to Christ for forgiveness and salvation, anyone who supports such darkness. I am all for ending the violence, as that is uncalled for. But they can also keep their hands off of our kids, and stop trying to get the State to take parents rights away so their kids can be cats or dogs, or the opposite gender.

Jude 7, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them." - Romans 1:26-32
 
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No, violence against anyone isn't ok, unless you're defending self or family, or in some circumstances, war. But it goes way further than what they're saying. They are literally blackmailing other nations if they don't adopt the LGBTQ policies, they won't get US funding, and that includes promoting it to children, and providing for surgeries, and all the things that are NOT ok.
But a much bigger problem is USA will be judged as was Sodom and Gomorrah for the very sins of Sodom & Gomorrah, and the murder of babies, and for violence of all kind, and the occult.

Furthermore, "discrimination" could be considered this post, and many other posts on this thread, which of course is freedom of speech, but they want to take that away from us, to promote pure evil.
The White House is down for this as well:

Furthermore as if to exacerbate this sin, "
U.S. Foreign Aid Used to Push Abortion, Gender Ideology Around the World" - which I know has been going on since at least 2023 when this article was written

At this rate the protection of God will be lifted, that Kim Jong Un may well get a nuke or two through to our cities! Judgment SHALL COME for these awful and deplorable sins against a holy God! Repent and turn to Christ for forgiveness and salvation, anyone who supports such darkness. I am all for ending the violence, as that is uncalled for. But they can also keep their hands off of our kids, and stop trying to get the State to take parents rights away so their kids can be cats or dogs, or the opposite gender.

Jude 7, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them." - Romans 1:26-32

And people wonder why I choose to stand with the sinners rather than to call myself a Christian. Christians love their neighbors... not because they deserve it, but because they need it.

In spite of what you may think, people do the best that they can, and your job isn't to judge them... it's to help them. As reprehensible as they may seem to you, and as undeserving as you may consider them to be, judging them isn't your job. Somehow, and in some way... your job is to help them. I don't know how, but I do know that it starts with listening, and understanding, and forgiving... maybe then, and only then, will you truly understand how to help.

Sometimes we make the mistake of thinking that we need to pray for the 'sinners', when what we really need is to pray for ourselves.

Serenity Prayer

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can,
and the wisdom to know the difference.
 
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Due to HIPA getting numbers on this will be all but impossible. But then I am guessing that those wanting the numbers know that. When something is so controversial we have to rely on doctors being honest about it.

The fact that it has been done at all is horrifying.

Yeah it really is.

I do have a track and a way to show some numbers but I hadn't done all the gathering yet.

But I picked up a very hot pan with my hands yesterday, I just had a stupid brain fart, and I'm having a problem using my hands now without crying. Lol

But my hands will have to heal more... They are doing better today than yesterday... But I think I'm going to take another day before doing too much on the internet.

This is just a test post to see... And I think another day is better. :)
 
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But I picked up a very hot pan with my hands yesterday,...
Always drape a cloth/tea towel over hot handles. Before they get hot.

Then again, I'm a couple of g and t's into cooking tonights dinner, so plenty of time for accidents yet.
 
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So is discrimination against someone just because they are gay ok?

That depends on what you call discrimination.

I can't argue this out ATM, but it really does depend. If I'm hiring for an office job then no, If someone is qualified they are qualified. But if I'm hiring for a more skilled position I'm going to be picky about those qualifications.

however, saying a child needs to be older before making decisions that will affect the rest of their life is just common sense, not discrimination.
 
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Always drape a cloth/tea towel over hot handles. Before they get hot.

Then again, I'm a couple of g and t's into cooking tonights dinner, so plenty of time for accidents yet.

That's normally the plan!

I was just in a very stupid moment. I took a pan out of the oven and placed it on top of the stove - used potholders for it. I put the potholders down, did a couple small things then went to move the pan off the stove and just didn't pick up the potholders first.

I actually fully picked up the pan to the point when I dropped it the food all hit the floor.

All I could think the whole time was what on earth was I thinking... The only conclusion is that I wasn't... Hahaha
 
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That depends on what you call discrimination.

I can't argue this out ATM, but it really does depend. If I'm hiring for an office job then no, If someone is qualified they are qualified. But if I'm hiring for a more skilled position I'm going to be picky about those qualifications.

however, saying a child needs to be older before making decisions that will affect the rest of their life is just common sense, not discrimination.
No, not necessarily for a job. But simply social discrimination. Not inviting someone to an event. Ignoring them to an extent. Avoiding them simply because they are gay. Literally treating them differently because they are gay.
 
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That's normally the plan!

I was just in a very stupid moment. I took a pan out of the oven and placed it on top of the stove - used potholders for or for it. I put the potholders down, did a couple small things then went to move the pan off the stove and just didn't pick up the potholders first.

I actually fully picked up the pan to the point when I dropped it the food all hit the floor.

All I could think the whole time was what on earth was I thinking... The only conclusion is that I wasn't... Hahaha
Been there, done that. Worst was when I left a pan that was really hot on the stove and my son picked it up. He got a really bad burn. He didn't blame me. But I did.
 
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I believe we're in a cultural war between those who embrace God, the Bible, and objective truth versus those who oppose God, reject the Bible, and pursue their own subjective beliefs and values. Might I suggest that the removal of the Bible and prayer from public schools, teaching of evolution over creationism, prohibition of posting the ten commandments or Christmas nativity scenes on public property, support of abortion, and LGBT movement are all part of the spiritual warfare Satan is enacting upon America and the world. We must choose our side. For Christians called to be salt of the earth, this means speaking up when the opportunity arises, but be prepared for the growing legal and financial repercussions.
The problem lies where some Christians take it upon themselves to espouse hatred, rather than grace, compassion and love.

It seems more and more so many Christians are taking a stand and making themselves incompatible with society.
Why do Christians feel the need to push their religion onto others?
Why do they need their particular religion in public schools, why do they need their particular religion in public places like courts, government buildings etc?
Why do many Christians take it upon themselves to tell others that their god doesn't like them, or that their god doesn't like their lifestyle?

Why can't Christians instead live in a graceful and loving way, respectful of others, especially those that don't believe as they do.
Why do they feel the need to tell others they are sinners or tell others that their scripture says they are abominations or should be put to death?
Where is the grace, love and compassion in that?

Why is it so hard to celebrate two people professing love for each other? Why is it so hard to call a person by the name and pronoun of their choosing? Why is it so hard to respect that many children in public schools are not Christians and do not want to hear anything from the bible, do not want to know anything about biblical stories like Genesis or whatever. There are plenty of opportunities for Christians to doctrinate their own children in the home, in the church, on church groups and church camps. Why do you feel you need secular teachers preaching Christianity to your children?
 
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"Women must not pretend to be men, and men must not pretend to be women. The LORD your God is disgusted with people who do that."
Deuteronomy 22:5
I don't think they're pretending at all. It's a genuine belief that they want to be/were meant to be the opposite gender.
Personally, I don't see how it threatens Christians.
 
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But there are more than one or two that post constantly in threads like this that literally deny that there is a difference between sex and gender.

It's not possible to have a reasonable discussion on that basis.
OK.

A person's sex is binary (tertiary, if one includes the rare intersex person). Sex is not assigned but discovered based solely on the person's physically observable attributes or capacities or lack thereof.

Gender, in the recent modern revised definition, is now a spectrum based on changeable behavior characteristics. A male may exhibit from time to time some feminine behaviors, and a female may exhibit from time to time some masculine behaviors.

As an example, to distinguish sex from gender, a scientist examining the remains of a human could conclude the person's sex and age but never conclude gender as in "at the time of their demise, this teenager was a transsexual caveman."

Give us a reasonable argument that would allow mutilating a 15-year-old boy suffering from gender dysphoria (GD) but withhold performing liposuction on a 15-year-old girl suffering from anorexia.

(If, as another poster lately admitted, you cannot be rational in this exchange because bias for friends or family presently suffering from GD clouds your reason, then do not respond.)
 
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So is discrimination against someone just because they are gay ok?

Depends what you're calling discrimination. If it means speaking the TRUTH of God's Word to them and about them, because it might just save their souls from hell, then yes, absolutely.
If it means throwing paint on them, calling them names out a car window, or other things like that, no.
But also, if a bakery refuses to make a wedding cake for a homosexual wedding, that's also their right and is not discrimination.
And I definitely wouldn't want them teaching my kids, or rather, I'll say it this way. I wouldn't care if they were a teacher, as long as they were not promoting and teaching their ideology to our kids.

By coddling homosexuals & transgenders, and not warning them of the error of their ways, as a Christian, you would then be complicit in their sins.

Ezekiel 33:8, "When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand."

But, for that matter we should be just as concerned about the adulterer and fornicator, of which these kind of sins are also rampant in society and were being promoted by media way way before homosexuality & transgender was. It seems a lot of Christians preach ONLY against homosexuality, when they should be preaching against ALL sexual sins. The adulterer, the fornicator, and even the p -ornea addict will burn in hell for their sin just as much as the homosexual or transgender.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (abusers of themselves with mankind, GR: "arsenokoites," is homosexual) "
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

All these sins are committed, especially in America and the West. All should be warned of their error if they commit said sins.
 
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OK.

A person's sex is binary (tertiary, if one includes the rare intersex person). Sex is not assigned but discovered based solely on the person's physically observable attributes or capacities or lack thereof.

Gender, in the recent modern revised definition, is now a spectrum based on changeable behavior characteristics. A male may exhibit from time to time some feminine behaviors, and a female may exhibit from time to time some masculine behaviors.
They may also experience internal states that are more masculine or more feminine. There are many variations possible because the "gender package" has many components, each of which is independently variable and some of them are more permanent that others, some more, some less under the control for the individual.. It's always been a spectrum, despite some of the silliness which surrounds the issue today.
As an example, to distinguish sex from gender, a scientist examining the remains of a human could conclude the person's sex and age but never conclude gender as in "at the time of their demise, this teenager was a transsexual caveman."
In theory it might be possible, depending on what we knew of the society based on grave goods, skeletal traces of gendered occupations, etc, but OK.
Give us a reasonable argument that would allow mutilating a 15-year-old boy suffering from gender dysphoria (GD) but withhold performing liposuction on a 15-year-old girl suffering from anorexia.
Instances of that kind are, as far as I can find out, so rare that a hypothetical example would be useless. One would have to evaluate individual occurrences on a case by case basis. A finding of GD is a clinical diagnosis of an actual disorder (as is anorexia) not just gender nonconformity.
 
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Instances of that kind are, as far as I can find out, so rare that a hypothetical example would be useless. One would have to evaluate individual occurrences on a case by case basis. A finding of GD is a clinical diagnosis of an actual disorder (as is anorexia) not just gender nonconformity.
I'd say that one those instances may help a person live while the other will likely help some one die.
 
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Been there, done that. Worst was when I left a pan that was really hot on the stove and my son picked it up. He got a really bad burn. He didn't blame me. But I did.

Yeah that's something you kick yourself over... But it can happen to the best of us, though we do all we can to avoid it.
 
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No, not necessarily for a job. But simply social discrimination. Not inviting someone to an event. Ignoring them to an extent. Avoiding them simply because they are gay. Literally treating them differently because they are gay.

That's not discrimination.

let's say I have a work-related friend who is homosexual.

Am I going to invite said person to a church event where everyone going believes said homosexual is going to hell when they die?

No, because I've noticed homosexuals find it offensive when confronted with Christian beliefs so I'm not going to invite someone to be around people they may not be comfortable around. That's just basic social etiquette.

If, on the other hand, I'm going to be hanging out with my libertarian friends I might ask said homosexual to come with, if I like them enough.

You invite people to events or to be around people you think they will fit in with and enjoy. You don't invite people to places they might be uncomfortable.

Social etiquette 101.
 
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Every week you can find Christian news reports of people around the world losing their jobs, being arrested, or being tried for voicing opposition to, or even questioning the transgender cultural trend. What's surprising is that most of these cases involve individuals making comments on private websites. This alone should have any free speech advocate upset with both the intolerant accusing parties, as well as the government systems coddling to the cultural agenda.

For Christians here that think the whole self-gender identifying trend is foolish but trivial, it's time to wake up and see what's happening. It took 20-30 years of aggressive activism for the gay community to successfully and significantly change America's culture. The transgender advocates are making progress much faster. In both cases, the Christian implications are the same, involving a much more profound development than just sexual freedom.

The LGBT movement is an inevitable result of the post-modernism movement that started decades ago. In short, it's a battle against objective reality which Christians should recognize as the Bible and subjective reality which is loosely determined by individuals' feelings and preferences. Will Christians cave in to the pressure now as before, thus compromising the very foundation of truth? Or will we fight this cultural trend, understanding its significance.

I believe we're in a cultural war between those who embrace God, the Bible, and objective truth versus those who oppose God, reject the Bible, and pursue their own subjective beliefs and values. Might I suggest that the removal of the Bible and prayer from public schools, teaching of evolution over creationism, prohibition of posting the ten commandments or Christmas nativity scenes on public property, support of abortion, and LGBT movement are all part of the spiritual warfare Satan is enacting upon America and the world. We must choose our side. For Christians called to be salt of the earth, this means speaking up when the opportunity arises, but be prepared for the growing legal and financial repercussions.

Now, here are just 3 recent examples of the hundreds of individuals being persecuted for thinking that God created two kinds, male and female, or that biology defines a person's sex and gender.



Actually there are three biological genders. Male, Female, Hermaphrodite ( having both sexual organs and is very rare in humans. As for trans, the lgbt has been oppressed by Christians. For hundreds of year gays were killed and tortured. I do not agree with what there doing but this attack on Christianity...I get it
 
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Every week you can find Christian news reports of people around the world losing their jobs, being arrested, or being tried for voicing opposition to, or even questioning the transgender cultural trend. What's surprising is that most of these cases involve individuals making comments on private websites. This alone should have any free speech advocate upset with both the intolerant accusing parties, as well as the government systems coddling to the cultural agenda.

For Christians here that think the whole self-gender identifying trend is foolish but trivial, it's time to wake up and see what's happening. It took 20-30 years of aggressive activism for the gay community to successfully and significantly change America's culture. The transgender advocates are making progress much faster. In both cases, the Christian implications are the same, involving a much more profound development than just sexual freedom.

The LGBT movement is an inevitable result of the post-modernism movement that started decades ago. In short, it's a battle against objective reality which Christians should recognize as the Bible and subjective reality which is loosely determined by individuals' feelings and preferences. Will Christians cave in to the pressure now as before, thus compromising the very foundation of truth? Or will we fight this cultural trend, understanding its significance.

I believe we're in a cultural war between those who embrace God, the Bible, and objective truth versus those who oppose God, reject the Bible, and pursue their own subjective beliefs and values. Might I suggest that the removal of the Bible and prayer from public schools, teaching of evolution over creationism, prohibition of posting the ten commandments or Christmas nativity scenes on public property, support of abortion, and LGBT movement are all part of the spiritual warfare Satan is enacting upon America and the world. We must choose our side. For Christians called to be salt of the earth, this means speaking up when the opportunity arises, but be prepared for the growing legal and financial repercussions.

Now, here are just 3 recent examples of the hundreds of individuals being persecuted for thinking that God created two kinds, male and female, or that biology defines a person's sex and gender.



There is no such thing as "Christian culture" in the Gospel of Christ which He commanded you to preach.
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