Biden continues his war on energy infrastructure with new broadside against US natural gas

Valletta · Feb 15, 2024

For an administration inclined toward bad energy decisions, this one is hard to top. The pause on permits out of the U.S. Department of Energy risks preventing other countries from realizing the significant emissions reductions the United States has achieved from natural gas and could ultimately leave America’s allies in the dark.
But the president’s blatantly political decision in an election year fits a broader trend: This will make it harder for American companies to produce natural gas and oil. At nearly every turn in the past three years, the administration has erected regulatory barriers to oil and gas infrastructure improvement or creation.

Biden continues his war on energy infrastructure with new broadside against US natural gas

The U.S. has an abundance of natural resources. Learn about the value of oil and gas production and the importance of modern infrastructure in our blog post.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Such decisions damage our environment and our country's economy.

Fantine · Feb 15, 2024

While natural gas itself is clean, the fracking process used to extract it is problematic. Even Oklahoma banned fracking in part of the state because earthquakes had increased tenfold.

Valletta · Feb 15, 2024

Fantine said:
While natural gas itself is clean, the fracking process used to extract it is problematic. Even Oklahoma banned fracking in part of the state because earthquakes had increased tenfold.

Natural gas has been around a long time. Earthquakes are extremely rare and there are plenty of rules and regulations. Note the order was not just against natural gas from fracking but against all natural gas. My problem is that they orders are poorly thought out, with doing what is politically correct the main impetus.

Fantine · Feb 15, 2024

Valletta said:
Natural gas has been around a long time. Earthquakes are extremely rare and there are plenty of rules and regulations. Note the order was not just against natural gas from fracking but against all natural gas. My problem is that they orders are poorly thought out, with doing what is politically correct the main impetus.

Natural gas was easy to get, as was oil years ago. They are both finite resources, and the oil and gas we drill for today sometimes require extraordinary measures to obtain.
Several years ago an earthquake west of Tulsa, about 150 miles away, knocked a friend's house off its foundation, costing her $10k. She did not have earthquake insurance, and was never advised to get any--but this quake was the product of the OK fracking explosion, now heavily regulated.
Solar energy never knocked houses off their foundations.

Valletta · Feb 15, 2024

Fantine said:
Solar energy never knocked houses off their foundations.

True. Solar panels cause fires.

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rambot · Feb 15, 2024

Valletta said:
Natural gas has been around a long time. Earthquakes are extremely rare and there are plenty of rules and regulations. Note the order was not just against natural gas from fracking but against all natural gas. My problem is that they orders are poorly thought out, with doing what is politically correct the main impetus.

Man, Republicans are such a weird breed. "Earthquakes IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CONTIENT should not be seen as a problem. There are building codes in place that should protect it.

Stop blaming EVERYTHING on being "politically correct". It's just not an apt description.

durangodawood · Feb 15, 2024

Fantine said:
While natural gas itself is clean, the fracking process used to extract it is problematic. Even Oklahoma banned fracking in part of the state because earthquakes had increased tenfold.

I cant help thinking that we wont regret pressure injecting a who knows what chemical cocktail into the earth.

As for "normal" gas wells, even those and their pipeline systems have a pretty terrible record of leaking.

Valletta · Feb 15, 2024

rambot said:
Man, Republicans are such a weird breed. "Earthquakes IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CONTIENT should not be seen as a problem. There are building codes in place that should protect it.

Stop blaming EVERYTHING on being "politically correct". It's just not an apt description.

I'm sure not a Republican. It's not my fault that solar panels have caused more monetary damage than earthquakes from fracking. As to earthquakes in the middle of the continent there were some HUGE earthquakes down in the SE corner of Missouri before it was well populated, of much greater magnitude than any caused by fracking. Those occurred before fracking was invented.

rambot · Feb 15, 2024

Valletta said:
I'm sure not a Republican. It's not my fault that solar panels have caused more monetary damage than earthquakes from fracking.

And it's not my fault that Tommy Tuberville enjoys gokarting and taking sweet jumps over Mexicans he pays to lie down at the end of his jumps.

Writing stuff that's nonsense is super fun.

Valletta said:
As to earthquakes in the middle of the continent there were some HUGE earthquakes down in the SE corner of Missouri before it was well populated, of much greater magnitude than any caused by fracking. Those occurred before fracking was invented.

What's your point? Honestly.
What happens in Missouri has NOTHING to do with the idea that FRACKING CAUSES EARTHQUAKES.
And no they were NOT huge. The biggest one was 4.6 and there were 4: 1990,2,8, and 2003

That's nothing. Oklahoma has had OVER A 1000 earthquakes in the last YEAR. In the last month they had two that were over 5.0

Valletta · Feb 15, 2024

rambot said:
And no they were NOT huge. The biggest one was 4.6 and there were 4: 1990,2,8, and 2003

That's nothing. Oklahoma has had OVER A 1000 earthquakes in the last YEAR. In the last month they had two that were over 5.0

You're wrong again. Look up the New Madrid earthquakes.

rambot · Feb 15, 2024

Valletta said:
You're wrong again. Look up the New Madrid earthquakes.

Guy. It's not that you're wrong. It's that your information is useless and pointless.

That's 1811.
Why are you:
1) Even REFERRING to something that old?
2) Ignoring the current limp situation in Missouri now (4 in 30 years)?
3) Not even addressing that Oklahoma has 10000 earthquakes a year?

Arcangl86 · Feb 15, 2024

Valletta said:
For an administration inclined toward bad energy decisions, this one is hard to top. The pause on permits out of the U.S. Department of Energy risks preventing other countries from realizing the significant emissions reductions the United States has achieved from natural gas and could ultimately leave America’s allies in the dark.
But the president’s blatantly political decision in an election year fits a broader trend: This will make it harder for American companies to produce natural gas and oil. At nearly every turn in the past three years, the administration has erected regulatory barriers to oil and gas infrastructure improvement or creation.

Biden continues his war on energy infrastructure with new broadside against US natural gas

The U.S. has an abundance of natural resources. Learn about the value of oil and gas production and the importance of modern infrastructure in our blog post.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Such decisions damage our environment and our country's economy.

Biden's order has nothing to do with the production of natural gas. It just puts a pause on building new export facilities.

Hans Blaster · Feb 16, 2024

Arcangl86 said:
Biden's order has nothing to do with the production of natural gas. It just puts a pause on building new export facilities.

Even less so. It is a pause on new *permits* for LNG export facilities. There are several already permitted LNG export facilities that haven't begun construction yet not to mention ones under construction. The export capacity will go up a lot (double?) relative to today before the growth stops even if there are no more permits allowed. Who knows what the market will be like in 5+ years for LNG.

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