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Ocasio-Cortez says Trump win would result in ‘grave impacts’ on democracy

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Ocasio-Cortez says Trump win would result in ‘grave impacts’ on democracy

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) issued a stark warning Tuesday about a second term for former President Trump, arguing it would result in “grave impacts” on democracy. “If Donald Trump is elected president of the United States, we do not know if there would be a verifiable next election...
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Laodicean60 said:
The fear talk last time was Trump with nukes.
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Given he talked about nuking hurricanes last time, it would seem that could still be a concern.
 
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Remind me, which US president refused to acknowledge the results of the 2020 election?

Which president plotted to have those results overturned?

Which president has been adjudicated to have committed an insurrection against the US?

Which president subsequently agreed that an insurrection occurred, but proceeded to blame someone else?
 
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Remind me which political party leaders have been using the justice system in the USA to investigate and go after people who disagree with what the ruling class establishment leaders are doing?
 
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“If Donald Trump is elected president of the United States, we do not know if there would be a verifiable next election that has integrity,” Ocasio-Cortez said Tuesday in an interview on CNN. “He already tried … what we saw on Jan. 6, he tried to overturn the results of the presidential election by force by inciting a riot.”

“I think we need to be very, very realistic about the grave impact of a Donald Trump election,” she added. “It is not a game. We need to protect our democracy and, ideally, it’s going to be on progressive values.”

I agree. However, I would replace the last phrase with "it's going to be on Constitutional values".
Progressives, Independents and yes, many Republicans can agree on that.
 
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Vambram said:
Remind me which political party leaders have been using the justice system in the USA to investigate and go after people who disagree with what the ruling class establishment leaders are doing?
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They're not though. They aren't using the justice system to do anything like that.


What is happening is individuals who engaged in clear and massive violations of federal and state laws are being prosecuted for their actions.

Donald Trump didn't disagree with actions of the "ruling class establishment" - that's a remarkably fallacious strawman.

Donald Trump engaged in multiple attempts to illegally overturn free and fair elections. He also willfully retained national security information, then refused to turn it over to the relevant authorities despite multiple requests and then legal action (in the form of multiple subpoenas). Then lied about it, multiple times again. To the point where authorities needed a warrant to search his residence for illegally retained materials.

Or, do you believe that the various prosecutions of Donald Trump aren't justified or warranted?
 
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Vambram said:
Remind me which political party leaders have been using the justice system in the USA to investigate and go after people who disagree with what the ruling class establishment leaders are doing?
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The Republican Party, and the guy who’s responsible for it is *actually* running again, if you can believe it, even despite his numerous charges, his losses in civil court, and two impeachments.
 
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Vambram said:
Remind me which political party leaders have been using the justice system in the USA to investigate and go after people who disagree with what the ruling class establishment leaders are doing?
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“I am your warrior, I am your justice. And for those who have been wronged and betrayed, I am your retribution,”

"I will direct a completely overhauled [Department of Justice] to investigate every Marxist prosecutor in America for their illegal, racist-in-reverse enforcement of the law.”
 
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wing2000 said:
“I am your warrior, I am your justice. And for those who have been wronged and betrayed, I am your retribution,”

"I will direct a completely overhauled [Department of Justice] to investigate every Marxist prosecutor in America for their illegal, racist-in-reverse enforcement of the law.”
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Are you implying that Marxist prosecutors should not be investigated?
 
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Tropical Wilds said:
The Republican Party, and the guy who’s responsible for it is *actually* running again, if you can believe it, even despite his numerous charges, his losses in civil court, and two impeachments.
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The leaders of the Democratic Party and the mainstream media have for many years projected the illegal stuff which they have been doing upon those who are their strongest opponents.
 
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Vambram said:
The leaders of the Democratic Party and the mainstream media have for many years projected the illegal stuff which they have been doing upon those who are their strongest opponents.
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Remember that time the Democrat outgoing president threatened his VP to not certify his loss in a legal election and incited his followers to commit an insurrection?

Me neither.
 
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Tropical Wilds said:
Remember that time the Democrat outgoing president threatened his VP to not certify his loss in a legal election and incited his followers to commit an insurrection?

Me neither.
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Remember all those many times over the last few years that prosecutors and the DoJ have gone after those who disagree with the Democratic Party ruling class?
 
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BCP1928 said:
Are there any? Is being a Marxist illegal?
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How can a Marxist attorney or politician legally uphold the Constitution of the USA?
 
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