Of course you know about the religious right...

RoBo1988 · Feb 9, 2024

...but what about the Christian left?

Christian left leaders launch national campaign to mobilize voters ahead of 2024 election

Left-leaning religious and civil rights leaders have launched a 30-state campaign they say will wake the sleeping giant and mobilize over 15 million poor and low-income voters ahead of the 2024

www.christianpost.com

Yttrium · Feb 9, 2024

RoBo1988 said:
...but what about the Christian left?

Yeah, I heard about them. They've been around for, like, longer than I've been alive, and I'm getting old. They seem to have this weird compulsion to help the poor. Not sure where they got that idea...

RileyG · Feb 9, 2024

How do you define the Christian left?

The Episcopal Church, Lutheran ELCA, United Methodist Church, Presbyterian Church PCUSA, Disciples of Christ, Moravian Church, The United Church of Christ, American Baptist and many, many others have all been "accused" of being part of the Christian left.

keith99 · Feb 9, 2024

I'm sure the Christian right of today would consider The Society of Friends as being leftist.

RileyG · Feb 9, 2024

keith99 said:
I'm sure the Christian right of today would consider The Society of Friends as being leftist.

Interesting you mention them. The modern Society of Friends (Quakers) is actually very small (around 300,000) but diverse theologically, some don't even believe in God or any theist thought. Many of them would be considered "leftist" because of their views on LGBT, for example.

keith99 · Feb 9, 2024

RileyG said:
Interesting you mention them. The modern Society of Friends (Quakers) is actually very small (around 300,000) but diverse theologically, some don't even believe in God or any theist thought. Many of them would be considered "leftist" because of their views on LGBT, for example.

I mention them often. They were willing to help any person trying to legally resist the draft during the Vietnam War. In my case it was breaking newish ground because my objections did not stem from a belief in a supreme being. The Society of Friends did not hesitate in the least because of that.

RileyG · Feb 9, 2024

keith99 said:
I mention them often. They were willing to help any person trying to legally resist the draft during the Vietnam War. In my case it was breaking newish ground because my objections did not stem from a belief in a supreme being. The Society of Friends did not hesitate in the least because of that.

Yes. They have historically always been pacifists.

RoBo1988 · Feb 9, 2024

Yttrium said:
They seem to have this weird compulsion to help the poor.

With other people's money, of course. (Tax dollars)

Bradskii · Feb 9, 2024

RoBo1988 said:
With other people's money, of course. (Tax dollars)

It's part of the reason you pay them.

ozso · Feb 10, 2024

Yttrium said:
Yeah, I heard about them. They've been around for, like, longer than I've been alive, and I'm getting old. They seem to have this weird compulsion to help the poor. Not sure where they got that idea...

“Take heed that you do not do your charitable deeds before men, to be seen by them. Otherwise you have no reward from your Father in heaven. 2 Therefore, when you do a charitable deed, do not sound a trumpet before you as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory from men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. 3 But when you do a charitable deed, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 that your charitable deed may be in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will Himself reward you openly." - Jesus (Matt 6:1-4)

BCP1928 · Feb 10, 2024

Next time you say the Pledge of Allegiance be sure and consider the fact that it was written by a man named Francis Bellamy, who was a Baptist minister and a dedicated Socialist, a man you would not consider either a real Christian or a real patriot by the standards you apply today..

Laodicean60 · Feb 10, 2024

"Of course you know about the religious right..." Please educate me. What does the right stand for?

RoBo1988 · Feb 10, 2024

BCP1928 said:
Next time you say the Pledge of Allegiance be sure and consider the fact that it was written by a man named Francis Bellamy, who was a Baptist minister and a dedicated Socialist, a man you would not consider either a real Christian or a real patriot by the standards you apply today..

While I am thankful for this country, and do what I can to support it, and pray to The Lord to protect and help; I don't pledge to a flag - "no King but Jesus" .

Maria Billingsley · Feb 10, 2024

RoBo1988 said:
With other people's money, of course. (Tax dollars)

Jesus Christ of Nazareth commanded us to help the poor. " Other people's money " notwithstanding. Helping the poor often requires utilizing resources, sometimes referred to as "other people's money" so it's a good thing.
Blessings

Laodicean60 · Feb 10, 2024

Maria Billingsley said:
Jesus Christ of Nazareth commanded us to help the poor. " Other people's money " notwithstanding. Helping the poor often requires utilizing resources, sometimes referred to as "other people's money" so it's a good thing.
Blessings

I guess the right-wing religion forgot the Love Your Neighbor part of the bible.

RoBo1988 · Feb 10, 2024

Laodicean60 said:
"Of course you know about the religious right..." Please educate me. What does the right stand for?

They are a group that many on the left set their hair on fire over. The late Jerry Fallwell was the original boogeyman.

They sought many pro family, pro life, agendas in politics.

Just as I said in another thread (about Trump prosecutor Fani Willis) , I don't support the state meddling in the church; and other than providing information to congregations, I don't support church groups lobbying Congress.

RoBo1988 · Feb 10, 2024

Maria Billingsley said:
Jesus Christ of Nazareth commanded us to help the poor. " Other people's money " notwithstanding. Helping the poor often requires utilizing resources, sometimes referred to as "other people's money" so it's a good thing.
Blessings

So...
Religious right - bad
Religious left - good?

RoBo1988 · Feb 10, 2024

Bradskii said:
It's part of the reason you pay them.

"We have the right as individuals to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but as members of Congress we have no right to appropriate a dollar of the public money."- Davy Crockett

A_JAY · Feb 10, 2024

RoBo1988 said:
So...
Religious right - bad
Religious left - good?

But the intimation from Post #1 is Religious left - bad.

RoBo1988 · Feb 10, 2024

A_JAY said:
But the intimation from Post #1 is Religious left - bad.

I'll refer you to the last paragraph of post #16

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