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"tailgating, erratic lane changing or illegal passing,” factors into 56 percent of crashes resulting in a fatality."

My wife and I experienced all of the above for 2500 miles during a trip on I-75 to Florida, last month.

Many don't remember their drivers ed instructions.
 
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"tailgating, erratic lane changing or illegal passing,” factors into 56 percent of crashes resulting in a fatality."

My wife and I experienced all of the above for 2500 miles during a trip on I-75 to Florida, last month.

Many don't remember their drivers ed instructions.
Can't say it's terribly surprising... I've been doing the "semi-nomadic" thing for over a year, and I certainly notice some bad driving out there.

I've noticed a certain regional component to the problem as well, and surprising it doesn't fit in with the overall stats.

For instance, New York is ranked as one of the states with less fatal crashes per capita, yet, that's the state where I've encountered the largest number of people driving "wildly" so to speak. (taking i-90 through Buffalo is often like the Thunderdome)

Of course, that could be skewed by the fact that the state of NY has NYC as a large population-center, and that's a city where (due to traffic), high-speed driving isn't gonna happen, so it's probably more fender-benders than lethal crashes.
 
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When I first got a smartphone and tried to text and was an erratic driver as you mention. I've learned that If I wanted to live a long life not do it anymore. I agree with Rob, I live in a small community and we have deadly crashes from speeding too much on open roads.
 
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I was going to make a crack about how bad the drivers in Baltimore are, and then I started reading the article. lol

What I've gleaned from reddit is that everybody everywhere thinks they have the worst drivers until they go to Boston and see what's really up. The people in Boston think they have the worst drivers until they go to Baltimore and see what's really up. And people in Baltimore think they have the worst drivers until they go to Florida.
 
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"tailgating, erratic lane changing or illegal passing,” factors into 56 percent of crashes resulting in a fatality."

My wife and I experienced all of the above for 2500 miles during a trip on I-75 to Florida, last month.

Many don't remember their drivers ed instructions.
I've driven in about a dozen countries or so. And quite a few thousand miles in the US (including Florida - but only the pan handle). And to be honest, the US comes close to the top of my list for courteous drivers. Bottom? France or Italy. Maybe Greece is just as bad. Did a four hour trip in Sicily a few years back and passed 3 very bad accidents. One most definitely fatal. They didn't even throw a blanket over the two guys...
 
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Of course, that could be skewed by the fact that the state of NY has NYC as a large population-center, and that's a city where (due to traffic), high-speed driving isn't gonna happen, so it's probably more fender-benders than lethal crashes.
Fatalities are skewed by distance to a trauma center. The further away, the greater the chance of death in a wreck. Here, helicopters have landed near the site of wrecks to get people to the nearest trauma center. So it's a combination of traffic and distance to medical assistance.
 
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"tailgating, erratic lane changing or illegal passing,” factors into 56 percent of crashes resulting in a fatality."

My wife and I experienced all of the above for 2500 miles during a trip on I-75 to Florida, last month.

Many don't remember their drivers ed instructions.

There used to be something called defensive driving... It's always been important regardless of whether it's still a thing...
 
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"tailgating, erratic lane changing or illegal passing,” factors into 56 percent of crashes resulting in a fatality."

My wife and I experienced all of the above for 2500 miles during a trip on I-75 to Florida, last month.

Many don't remember their drivers ed instructions.
I think there are a few factors at play:
Video game car racing ( training)
Sensors that give drivers a sense of security
Lack of highway patrol presence
No way of tracking such drivers
 
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Can't say it's terribly surprising... I've been doing the "semi-nomadic" thing for over a year, and I certainly notice some bad driving out there.

I've noticed a certain regional component to the problem as well, and surprising it doesn't fit in with the overall stats.

For instance, New York is ranked as one of the states with less fatal crashes per capita, yet, that's the state where I've encountered the largest number of people driving "wildly" so to speak. (taking i-90 through Buffalo is often like the Thunderdome)

Of course, that could be skewed by the fact that the state of NY has NYC as a large population-center, and that's a city where (due to traffic), high-speed driving isn't gonna happen, so it's probably more fender-benders than lethal crashes.
I imagine that there is a cognitive load limit for people negotiating roadways. Where I live there’s not a massive amount of traffic and I don’t get stressed at all. Twenty miles away in Liverpool and I clearly notice it’s taking more of my concentration.
 
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Speed, distracted driving and larger vehicles (higher and heaver) are probably the main contributors to the carnage our health providers see on a daily basis.

+Intentional reckless driving.
From the linked article:

Of the 2,500 licensed drivers who responded to the AAA survey, 22 percent admitted to switching lanes at high speeds or tailgating, 25 percent admitted to running a red light, 40 percent admitted to holding an active phone while driving and 50 percent admitted to exceeding posted speed limits by 15 miles per hour or more — all within the last calendar month.

Worse, a sizable number of respondents said they knew that people important to them would somewhat or completely disapprove of much of the behavior. They did it anyway, despite the risk of opprobrium and despite the fact that, as the AAA dryly noted in an accompanying news release, “a motorist’s need for speed consistently fails to deliver shorter travel times. It would take driving 100 miles at 80 m.p.h. instead of 75 m.p.h. to shave just five minutes off a trip.”


The article also high levels of stress and anger that pervades our society that is channeled into aggressive/reactive drving.
 
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Dont forget Americans addiction to massive vehicles. From the article:

The relationship between car size and injury rates is still being studied, but early research on the American appetite for horizon-blotting machinery points in precisely the direction you’d expect: The bigger the vehicle, the less visibility it affords, and the more destruction it can wreak. In a report published in November, the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, a nonprofit, concluded that S.U.V.s or vans with a hood height greater than 40 inches — standard-issue specs for an American truck in 2023 — are 45 percent more likely to kill pedestrians than smaller cars.
Its like an arms race out there,
 
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I think there are a few factors at play:
Video game car racing ( training)
While blaming video games is a favorite for all kind of societal ills, don't you think that people in other countries also have access to those games? Besides, games like those have been a thing for decades and they are hardly the most popular gaming genre.
 
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While blaming video games is a favorite for all kind of societal ills, don't you think that people in other countries also have access to those games? Besides, games like those have been a thing for decades and they are hardly the most popular gaming genre.
You must have missed the new movie called " Gran Turismo. " It's rather eye opening when it comes to the slim difference between sim driving and real driving.
 
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You must have missed the new movie called " Gran Turismo. " It's rather eye opening when it comes to the slim difference between sim driving and real driving.
I'm sorry, but the existence of an entertainment movie version of a popular driving simulation does not convince me of the correlation between dangerous driving and the prevalence of racing video games.
 
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You must have missed the new movie called " Gran Turismo. " It's rather eye opening when it comes to the slim difference between sim driving and real driving.
One of the big points of the movie was that the difference wasn't slim - that the in-game training can only take you so far.

Either way, I highly doubt that sim racing is causing people to drive like jerks. For one thing, it only impacts your driving at all if you have a wheel and pedal setup, which very few non-sim enthusiasts do. But if anything, I'd expect those games to make the players better drivers - it did for me while I was briefly into them.
 
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I am not surprised. Some people feel they can get away with anything on the road, and heaven help you if you are in their way.

That is part of the problem. Inconsiderate drivers clogging up the road and triggering aggressive driving. We should already be thinking defensively and moving over to prevent much of the road rage. Yet many drivers are oblivious to etiquette and flow of traffic. Their selfish behavior instigates other drivers into being reckless. It's just an interesting fact. I know because my own patience is finite.
 
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Its like an arms race out there,
SUVs have taken the place of station wagons. I suspect it's due to a wrinkle in federal mandates for increased vehicle mileage. SUVs are classified as trucks rather than automobiles. Some automobiles are dinky little things that don't look like they have enough clearance to go over a railroad track, much less down a dirt rd.

Disclosure: I find it hard to have adequate head clearance in some automobiles and also some smaller SUVs. I gravitate toward the larger vehicles for head room.

That said, trucks have increased in ground clearance since the 1970s, and I don't really get why. We made it fine down dirt roads and fields in those older trucks, and my wife complains about climbing into the newer ones.

I do confess to daydreaming about a Unimog: "That's not a truck; this is a truck."
 
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