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Can a chatbot preach a good sermon? Hundreds attend church service generated by ChatGPT to find out

Hundreds of German Protestants attended a church service in Bavaria that was generated almost entirely by artificial intelligence. The service was created by ChatGPT and Jonas Simmerlein, a theologian and philosopher from the University of Vienna. It was one of hundreds of events at the...

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Hvizsgyak said:

So this was tried in a German Church already and now a Texas church is going to try something similar? Wow! I was expecting to see some discussion leading up to the use of AI in a religious ceremony but I wasn't expecting to actually see it has taken place already. The reason I am a little hesitant about AI creating sermons, homilies, and or prayers is that these things are usually inspired by the Holy Spirit and presented by a person who is a member of the consecrated life. How will the faithful know God's Truth from AI's truth?

As an example (but not really the best one), I wanted to create an image that displayed all the nations with their Guardian Angels hovering over them. Now I know angels are neither male or female but they can present themselves to a person in a male or female form. I've got no qualm with that. But most of the big name angels most people known were in male form (in pictures) Michael, Gabriel and Raphael. So when I specified my desires to the Bing Image Creator I just specified angels and not male or female angels. I wasn't sure what it would produce but it kind of shocked me. Every angel was female. Beautiful picture though. But what made the AI generate all female angels and not a combination of female and male angels? How was the AI programmed to respond to certain situations? Would the listener know if the sermon, homily or prayer was supporting false doctrine?

Maybe I'm thinking too much into it. But that was the reason why, in the first place, I thought there would be alot of discussion about AI in religious situations before it got implemented in real life.

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Hvizsgyak said:

Or are they just another choice in a long slew of suggestions?

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The article wouldn't be that bad if it would have just said "this is what AI thinks the characters of Harry Potter should look like". But no, the article goes on to say "One Potterhead used AI to generate images of what the iconic characters should really have looked like in the film adaptation based on the book descriptions.". Giving the AI generated images the official end product. Hopefully this type of reliance on AI's output won't trickle down into real life situations such as business making decisions - oops, I spoke to soon:

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Will faithful followers be able to distinguish between a homily inspired by The Holy Spirit and a homily created by AI? Is there going to be a difference? How will the faithful followers know that they are not being lead down a very clever ruse hidden in the deepest depths of the AI program?

I love what AI can do in many circumstances. I've always wanted to be able to express my thoughts thru art BUT stick figures are my best works. The same goes for music. I have new songs in my head just waiting to be put on paper BUT I have no idea how to do that in a decent amount of time. AI allows me to do both of those things (if I could only afford it now) (and I don't mind giving the AI 90% of the credit for the works just so I can get my thoughts down on permanent paper or canvas.

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ThatRobGuy said:

So at the very least, it's good news that OpenAI hasn't tapped into my internet history yet.

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ThatRobGuy said:

In my experience thus far (as someone who's been in tech for nearly 2 decades at various level of "the game")?

It's hit or miss based on the task you're giving it.

Where AI is currently lacking is that it can only operate off the data you feed it. Sure, there are "learning models" that allow AI engines to train themselves to a degree, but it's still very dependent on what you initially feed it.

A way I would phrase it is "AI gets a B+ for the objective, it gets a D- for the subjective"

Sure, you can ask Chat GPT to solve a math problem or recite some historical fact that can be aggregated from various data sources.

Ask it the question along the lines of "Compose a song with lyrics that speak to my personal experience", and you get this nonsense cookie cutter response that resembles a Creed song that didn't make the cut for getting on the album lol

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Things that are in the realm of "art" are so subjective and so unique for each individual person that it'd be impossible to create a model for figuring it out with any accuracy.

As are matters of what someone is attracted to. AI even confesses it's own limitation on this matter.
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So at the very least, it's good news that OpenAI hasn't tapped into my internet history yet.

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Nithavela said:

I wouldn't be so sure. OpenAI has shown to pretend to be unable to do certain things when prompted, but with the right prompts displays this ability.

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ThatRobGuy said:

I've gotten to experiment and beta test some of the "yet to be released" AI offerings from some of the big names (and not just the ones they release for the "public beta test", but the ones they reserve for partner organizations that spend a lot of money with them, and that they're looking to get more money out of)...trust me when I say, it's got a long way to go.

Just as a particular example:

We were recently experimenting with a learning model where the use case they were asking us to test was to accurately predict how likely a person would be to be willing to donate to the World Wildlife Fund.

We uploaded a very comprehensive data matrix with BI analytics data from 3 major aggregators in that space and cross referenced that with the "actual" list of people who've donated to that organization over the past decade in order to check for accuracy.

I specify "learning model", because they were trying to test how accurately they can predict certain outcomes...obviously if you just feed them the list of people who actually donated, that's not pure AI, that's just knowing how to write a SQL query.

It was only 58% accurate (one of our "friendly" partner orgs who's a tech vendor in the same space came up with very similar results)

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Nithavela said:

It appears that at least the text generation part is actually deteriorating when trained with current internet texts, because it is trained with AI text, which appears to do weird things to the algorythms.

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Hvizsgyak said:

That's a great question. I believe the Holy Spirit could use AI to create the greatest and most inspirational works ever but would the Holy Spirit do so? I personally don't think so because the Holy spirit can out perform AI with both wings tied behind it's back and hopping on one leg. Why would it need AI? And It would gives It's work to a person worthy of God's work not a computer no matter who was running the computer.

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Hvizsgyak said:

I remember that movie! Now I'm going to be searching the internet for the name of it . Also, check out the movie Artificial Intelligence for a sneak peek into the future.

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Hvizsgyak said:

With today's AI, the Holy Spirit may work with the AI to help the person using the AI get a grammatically correct and smoother flowing written piece like Laodicean60 suggested in one of his posts. But to give the AI a few choice words or a theme and letting the AI generate a "Spirit" driven written output, no I don't think God the Father intended the Holy Spirit for such tasks. Again, the Holy Spirit would work through whom It wanted to produce a masterpiece of written output. God is concerned only with His human creations not AI.

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