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House releases overview of evidence against Biden

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You know it really doesn’t matter what gets posted on a forum. I’ll just wait and see what happens.
We're seeing it in real time. We keep hearing this time, this time, a witness will blow it all open. And then the witness testifies, and the republicans scurry to cover up what they said, because the testimony didn't support their hopes. How many times will that go on before people start wising up?
 
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We're seeing it in real time. We keep hearing this time, this time, a witness will blow it all open. And then the witness testifies, and the republicans scurry to cover up what they said, because the testimony didn't support their hopes. How many times will that go on before people start wising up?
I really don’t care. Like I said there are two possibilities. I guess you’re going with naive and unaware
 
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I really don’t care. Like I said there are two possibilities.
Either Biden is at once unaware and a fiendishly clever manipulator, or the republicans who are seeking to find a way to beat him are stuffed with prunes. I guess it could also be possible that they are naive and unaware.
I guess you’re going with naive and unaware
I'm thinking "stuffed with prunes" is a more likely possibility,
 
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I really don’t care. Like I said there are two possibilities. I guess you’re going with naive and unaware
Or the third possibility, just touched up but as you note you don't care. As much as the GOP goes out their way to make absurd claims, cooking text messages, and blocking testimony, they do so because it hurts their cause. Their cause? Because Trump said so, and they think it a win if a pair of impeached presidents are the voters choice.
 
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Or the third possibility, just touched up but as you note you don't care. As much as the GOP goes out their way to make absurd claims, cooking text messages, and blocking testimony, they do so because it hurts their cause. Their cause? Because Trump said so, and they think it a win if a pair of impeached presidents are the voters choice.
That’s not much of a choice. We lose either way.
 
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I really don’t care. Like I said there are two possibilities.
I agree. We have now seen that there's nothing there. So the two possibilities are that either very many Republicans are so gullible that they actually believe that the 'evidence' is there somewhere and it will come to light at some point. Or they know very well it's smoke and mirrors but are too deeply committed to the lie that they can't back away from this dumpster fire without losing face.

I honestly think that some of them sincerely wish that all this would go away. They are starting to become embarrassed. And there's a small part of me that feels sorry for them.
 
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I agree. We have now seen that there's nothing there. So the two possibilities are that either very many Republicans are so gullible that they actually believe that the 'evidence' is there somewhere and it will come to light at some point. Or they know very well it's smoke and mirrors but are too deeply committed to the lie that they can't back away from this dumpster fire without losing face.

I honestly think that some of them sincerely wish that all this would go away. They are starting to become embarrassed. And there's a small part of me that feels sorry for them.
Regardless whether Republicans have anything or not there are only two possibilities for Biden. He knew full well or he’s completely unaware. Neither one is good.
Voters will ultimately be the ones who decide and if the choice is the same two as last time Kennedy may do better than expected.
 
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Either Biden is at once unaware and a fiendishly clever manipulator, or the republicans who are seeking to find a way to beat him are stuffed with prunes. I guess it could also be possible that they are naive and unaware.

I'm thinking "stuffed with prunes" is a more likely possibility,
This is the denial I was talking about.
 
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Regardless whether Republicans have anything or not there are only two possibilities for Biden. He knew full well or he’s completely unaware.
He knew that his son would make sure people knew that his dad was runing the country? Seriously? No, that wasn't a rhetorical question. Are you being serious when you say that Hunter liked to let people with whom he was doing business know that his dad was the man? Do you think that anyone doing business with Hunter was so unaware that they didn't know they were dealing directly with the presidents son? That Joe wasn't aware that everyone dealing with junior would know?

What do you honestly think went on? 'Hey, dad. Give me a call back in an hour. I'll be with some people and they will really be so impressed if I take a call from...the president!'
 
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He knew that his son would make sure people knew that his dad was runing the country? Seriously? No, that wasn't a rhetorical question. Are you being serious when you say that Hunter liked to let people with whom he was doing business know that his dad was the man? Do you think that anyone doing business with Hunter was so unaware that they didn't know they were dealing directly with the presidents son? That Joe wasn't aware that everyone dealing with junior would know?

What do you honestly think went on? 'Hey, dad. Give me a call back in an hour. I'll be with some people and they will really be so impressed if I take a call from...the president!'
Read Hunter’s texts and emails if you want to know what was going on. You know what went on, everyone knows, some people are just so invested that they have to make excuses and deny the obvious
For some people it won’t matter how corrupt or incompetent he is they will still support him. Biden supporters are not much different than Trump supporters In that respect
 
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You know it really doesn’t matter what gets posted on a forum. I’ll just wait and see what happens.
It all comes down to two possibilities : either Biden is corrupt or he is one of the most naive, unaware people in the country.
Or perhaps all these accusations are exactly as they appear - a lot of hot air that mysteriously evaporates as soon as there are any consequences to failing to tell the truth.
 
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Read Hunter’s texts and emails if you want to know what was going on.

If that were really the convincing evidence that it is asserted it is, one wonders why that wasn't used instead of a number of witnesses who failed to identify any wrongdoing by Biden.

Seems instead to be an attempt to distract from what the GOP witnesses testified to.
 
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If that were really the convincing evidence that it is asserted it is, one wonders why that wasn't used instead of a number of witnesses who failed to identify any wrongdoing by Biden.

Seems instead to be an attempt to distract from what the GOP witnesses testified to.
Seems you are proving my point
 
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Is it a crime for a father to know his child is telling prospective business clients that his father is an important, powerful person?

If there wasn't a quid pro quo what crime did Joe Biden commit?
Do the the people not know who Biden is? Why does Hunter need to tell people that his dad is a powerful important person? Do t they know?

How do you know there was no quid pro quo? Seems like Ukraine is doing well under the Biden regime. Getting a lot more money than a lot of Americans who could use it.

But like I said before there is a lot of evidence of Biden being involved. Whether it's enough or leads to more remains to be seen.
 
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Or perhaps all these accusations are exactly as they appear - a lot of hot air that mysteriously evaporates as soon as there are any consequences to failing to tell the truth.
Speaking of consequences for failing to tell the truth
 
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Do the the people not know who Biden is? Why does Hunter need to tell people that his dad is a powerful important person? Do t they know?
Beats me. But it seems that that is part of what he being accused of.
How do you know there was no quid pro quo?
Because there has been absolutely no evidence produced that there was. It's all innuendo. This is like the umpteen court cases regarding the stolen election. Hey yeah, the Kraken awakes! There is so much evidence you won't believe it! It is overwhelming! And then when the rubber hit the road and it was time to put up or shut up, we got...absolutely nothing.

And this is the same farce all over again.
Seems like Ukraine is doing well under the Biden regime.
Gee, you think that might have something to do with Russia attacking them?
But like I said before there is a lot of evidence of Biden being involved. Whether it's enough or leads to more remains to be seen.
There in 2 short sentences we have the situation summed up. 'There is evidence against Biden!' And then, soto voce: 'But whether it leads to something we can actually use...well, I'm not really sure. Guess we'll have to keep on waiting until...well, until something shows up'.
 
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Exactly what the opposition is saying about their candidate
Perhaps a case where the shorthand talking points don't have much meaning outside of the right wing echo chamber? Some context might help others figure out which GOP fairy tale this is referencing.
 
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Speaking of consequences for failing to tell the truth
Seems like the evidence against Biden must be really weak if all that can actually be provided is polling numbers.
 
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