Four Proud Boys Convicted of Sedition in Key Jan. 6 Case

Say it aint so · May 4, 2023

"Four members of the Proud Boys, including their former leader Enrique Tarrio, were convicted on Thursday of seditious conspiracy for plotting to keep President Donald J. Trump in power after his election defeat by leading a violent mob in attacking the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. The jurors in the case failed to reach a decision on the sedition charge for one of the defendants, Dominic Pezzola, although he was convicted of other serious felonies." NYTimes

"Stand back and stand by", and now please stand aside and watch your toes was we close this cell door.

Yttrium · May 4, 2023

Cool. I'll be very interested to see what kind of sentences they get for sedition.

High Fidelity · May 4, 2023

A good start. Traitors.

Blade · May 4, 2023

Say it aint so said:
The funny thing is Trump is in Ireland playing golf, and these bozos doing Trump' bidding will now be wearing used orange jumpsuits.

Huh? Care to back this up? Since 2014 the left have been saying this and here we are 2023 nothing. Yet some on the right and left have been taken to court and jailed and fines. Is it not like Biden or his son and what the right say about them being locked up put in orange jumpsuits?..

Say it aint so · May 4, 2023

Blade said:
Huh? Care to back this up? Since 2014 the left have been saying this and here we are 2023 nothing. Yet some on the right and left have been taken to court and jailed and fines. Is it not like Biden or his son and what the right say about them being locked up put in orange jumpsuits?..

Back up what in particular? That the orange jumpsuits will be used? I said Trump was in Ireland playing golf. That is true. I said being found guilty these guys are going to jail for doing Trump's bidding. That is true. Or as the leader of the Proud Boys said after Trump asked them to "stand back and stand by" the leader said, “Standing by, sir.”

wing2000 · May 4, 2023

High Fidelity said:
A good start. Traitors.

Yea, maybe they can join the "J6 Prison Choir"....

Most nights at 9 p.m., defendants in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol flicker the lights in their D.C. jail cells to signal to supporters outside that it’s time to sing “The Star-Spangled Banner” together. The recital has become a sacred ritual for a subset of Donald Trump’s movement devoted to heroizing the accused rioters.

The former president is now embracing their cause, lending his voice to a recording of the “J6 Prison Choir” and playing it to start the first rally of his 2024 presidential campaign. The song, “Justice for All,” features Trump reciting the Pledge of Allegiance mixed with a rendition of the national anthem.

“Our people love those people,” Trump went on to say at the rally, speaking of those who were jailed. “What’s happening in that prison, it’s a hellhole. ... These are people that shouldn’t have been there.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2023/trump-j6-prison-choir/?itid=hp_most-read_p004_f004_2

lismore · May 4, 2023

Say it aint so said:
The funny thing is Trump is in Ireland playing golf, and these bozos doing Trump' bidding will now be wearing used orange jumpsuits.

If Trump wins the next election he can give them a pardon

ralliann · May 4, 2023

lismore said:
If Trump wins the next election he can give them a pardon

These men's lives should never depend upon that. Never.

Arcangl86 · May 4, 2023

ralliann said:
this charge means life. These guys are libel now to a life sentence.

Seditious Conspiracy has a maximum sentence of 20 years.

ralliann · May 4, 2023

Arcangl86 said:
Seditious Conspiracy has a maximum sentence of 20 years.

where are you getting that from?

lismore · May 4, 2023

ralliann said:
These men's lives should never depend upon that. Never.

No they shouldn't. But that seems to be the way it is.

Arcangl86 · May 4, 2023

ralliann said:
where are you getting that from?

The United States Code

ralliann · May 4, 2023

lismore said:
No they shouldn't. But that seems to be the way it is.

For some yes it is. Not others.

ralliann · May 4, 2023

Arcangl86 said:
The United States Code

They aren't done with these guys yet.

Arcangl86 · May 4, 2023

ralliann said:
They aren't done with these guys yet.

Even if that's true, none of the charges they currently stand convicted of carry a life sentence.

ralliann · May 4, 2023

Arcangl86 said:
Even if that's true, none of the charges they currently stand convicted of carry a life sentence.

This is a partial verdict, other charges are pending. They will get em, don't worry.

ThatRobGuy · May 4, 2023

USincognito said:
This is just another sign that America is over and we need a national divorce.

Obviously you're being facetious here...but there are some on both sides who've suggested such ideas, I've yet to hear of a cogent argument as to what the logistics would look like.

It's not like the civil war where there was a nice neat geographical line dividing the two sides....today we'd have a bunch of high population density blue dots on an otherwise sparsely populated red map.

A better use of time would be trying to figure out why so many people have come to the conclusion that "I can't share a country with someone who disagrees with me on anything"...and that unique level of incivility didn't start with Trump...I view him as a symptom and not a cause.

ralliann · May 4, 2023

ThatRobGuy said:
Obviously you're being facetious here...but there are some on both sides who've suggested such ideas, I've yet to hear of a cogent argument as to what the logistics would look like.

It's not like the civil war where there was a nice neat geographical line dividing the two sides....today we'd have a bunch of high population density blue dots on an otherwise sparsely populated red map.

A better use of time would be trying to figure out why so many people have come to the conclusion that "I can't share a country with someone who disagrees with me on anything"...and that unique level of incivility didn't start with Trump...I view him as a symptom and not a cause.

After what has gone on here you ask this? Are you kidding me? Some are having to share in a jail and rot. Message loud and clear. Some can and some don't dare.

ThatRobGuy · May 4, 2023

ralliann said:
After what has gone on here you ask this? Are you kidding me? Some are having to share in a jail and rot. Message loud and clear. Some can and some don't dare.

You're going to have to be a little more specific...

I don't know that I follow what you're getting at.

If you're suggesting that what the Jan 6th rioters got as punishment is disproportionate to what they did...I'd be willing to grant that. The Chaz/Chop leftists didn't get much in the way of punishment for what they did.

At the same time, people storming the US capitol trying to get the election overturned is a unique event that we can't really compare to anything as far as "counter-examples" because I'm not aware of any die-hard Gore supporters trying to bum-rush the capitol because Bush won.

ralliann · May 4, 2023

ThatRobGuy said:
You're going to have to be a little more specific...

I don't know that I follow what you're getting at.

If you're suggesting that what the Jan 6th rioters got as punishment is disproportionate to what they did...I'd be willing to grant that. The Chaz/Chop leftists didn't get much in the way of punishment for what they did.

At the same time, people storming the US capitol trying to get the election overturned is a unique event that we can't really compare to anything as far as "counter-examples" because I'm not aware of any die-hard Gore supporters trying to bum-rush the capitol because Bush won.

It isn't just chaz, it's blm, antifa, etc. ON and on. Blm even stole money, cops killed and ambushed. You gotta be kidding me. So don't worry, there is more coming for these guys, be happy. Well, unless they get even just one to help them get Trump.

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