What Is Our Ninth Planet?

Hans Blaster · Mar 28, 2023

Diamond7 said:
Many scientists and philosophers believe that there are deeper connections and patterns that underlie the universe, such as the concept of "entanglement" in quantum physics, or the idea of a unified field that connects all of existence. While these ideas are still being explored and debated, they suggest that there may be even more fundamental ways in which everything in the universe is interconnected.

The double-slit experiment also demonstrates the idea of quantum entanglement, which is a phenomenon in which two particles become entangled and their states become correlated, even if they are separated by a great distance. This suggests that there may be deeper connections and patterns in the universe than we currently understand.

The Gaia hypothesis, named after the ancient Greek goddess of Earth, posits that Earth and its biological systems behave as a huge single entity. This entity has closely controlled self-regulatory negative feedback loops that keep the conditions on the planet within boundaries that are favorable to life.

Entanglement doesn't permit information to travel faster than light.

Hans Blaster · Mar 28, 2023

Diamond7 said:
There is no time at the speed of light.

You have mass. Objects with mass cannot travel at the speed of light. Time *always* passes for objects with mass.

Diamond7 said:
Schroeder argues that time is a fundamental component of the universe, but that our perception of time is relative and depends on our frame of reference.

So he's read Einstein. Good for him.

Diamond72 · Mar 29, 2023

Hans Blaster said:
You have mass.

I do not deny mass, I think the universe really does exist. You deny that we are spiritual.

The relationship between science and spirituality is a topic of ongoing debate and exploration. Some scientists argue that spirituality and science are not necessarily compatible, while others believe that they can be integrated to provide a more complete understanding of the world
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. There is evidence to suggest that spiritual practices such as meditation and mindfulness can have positive effects on mental and physical health, and some researchers are exploring the potential benefits of integrating spiritual practices into healthcare and other fields
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Diamond72 · Mar 29, 2023

Hans Blaster said:
So he's read Einstein. Good for him.

Do you suggest that it is possible to have a PhD from MIT in physics and never hear of Einstein?

Hans Blaster · Mar 29, 2023

Diamond7 said:
I do not deny mass, I think the universe really does exist.

Then you should have no problem accepting that you cannot travel faster or at the speed of light and cannot, therefore, experience the whole universe at once. (I didn't claim you "deny mass" or that the you think the Universe doesn't exist. You keep reading things into fairly simple and clear statements that just aren't there.)

Diamond7 said:
You deny that we are spiritual.

Not sure what this has to do with anything on this topic.

Diamond7 said:
The relationship between science and spirituality is a topic of ongoing debate and exploration. Some scientists argue that spirituality and science are not necessarily compatible, while others believe that they can be integrated to provide a more complete understanding of the world

So you're just talking about beliefs. For a second I thought you might be talking about a non-physical, disembodied component to people.

Diamond7 said:
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It's an interesting study in psychology and neurobiology to be certain, but not relevant to anything we've been discussing and especially not the identity of planets in our system.

chilehed · Mar 29, 2023

Pluto. It's still Pluto.

Hans Blaster · Apr 4, 2023

Hey @AV1611VET

Someone has solved this problem for you.

Greetings from Sun Da.

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Frank Robert · Apr 4, 2023

Diamond7 said:
I do not deny mass, I think the universe really does exist. You deny that we are spiritual.

The relationship between science and spirituality is a topic of ongoing debate and exploration. Some scientists argue that spirituality and science are not necessarily compatible, while others believe that they can be integrated to provide a more complete understanding of the world.

Have you heard of the placebo effect?

A recent experiment was preformed where the placebo group received there placebo medication in a bottle marked placebo. 50% of the placebo group received the benefit of the actual medication. See: Why placebo pills work even when you know they’re a placebo

Have you heard about healing effects of Solfeggio frequencies? I won't go into the myth of how they came about but their is evidence that they work or at least have a high placebo effect. I can personally attest to 174Hz frequency being excellent for pain alleviation. I also have several clients using guided meditation tuned at 174hz for chronic pain relief. Perhaps it is just placebo at work.

The Science Behind Solfeggio Frequencies (spoiler, not an accurate history of the Solfeggio frequencies)

"Hymn to St. John the Baptist" for Meditation and Healing - With the six original slofeggio frequencies.

Diamond7 said:
. There is evidence to suggest that spiritual practices such as meditation and mindfulness can have positive effects on mental and physical health, and some researchers are exploring the potential benefits of integrating spiritual practices into healthcare and other fields

Mindfulness is not necessarily a spiritual practice. Herbert Benson, MD from Harvard Medical School, after studying various techniques of mindfulness came up with the concept of the Relaxation Response. (pdf)

Diamond7 said:
. However, it is important to note that spirituality is a complex and multifaceted concept that can be difficult to define and measure scientifically

The major problem with spirituality as science is that no one has come up with hypothesis on spirituality that is testable, predicable and repeatable.

AV1611VET · Apr 4, 2023

Frank Robert said:
Have you heard about healing effects of Solfeggio frequencies? I won't go into the myth of how they came about but their is evidence that they work or at least have a high placebo effect. I can personally attest to 174Hz frequency being excellent for pain alleviation. I also have several clients using guided meditation tuned at 174hz for chronic pain relief. Perhaps it is just placebo at work.

Don't forget the magnetic bracelets.

They work, don't they?

After all, isn't Fe in our blood?

Frank Robert said:
The major problem with spirituality as science is that no one has come up with hypothesis on spirituality that is testable, predicable and repeatable.

That spiritual world just seems to have a mind of its own, doesn't it?

One minute Peter is walking on water, the next he is sinking.

Throw Jonah overboard and the sea ceases its raging.

Every ship should have a Jonah, shouldn't it?

Gregory Thompson · Apr 4, 2023

Pluto was downgraded to a ball of ice, this is because Nestle has plans to mine it and bottle the water. It's easier to do that if it doesn't have "Planet" status.

AV1611VET · Apr 4, 2023

Michael Collum said:
Pluto was downgraded to a ball of ice, this is because Nestle has plans to mine it and bottle the water. It's easier to do that if it doesn't have "Planet" status.

I can see it now:

Pluto Spring Water

For a Taste that is Out of this World!

Frank Robert · Apr 5, 2023

AV1611VET said:
Don't forget the magnetic bracelets.

They work, don't they?

After all, isn't Fe in our blood?

I would expect that 1/4-1/3 of those who use magnetic bracelets will experience a placebo effect.

AV1611VET said:
That spiritual world just seems to have a mind of its own, doesn't it?

One minute Peter is walking on water, the next he is sinking.

Throw Jonah overboard and the sea ceases its raging.

Every ship should have a Jonah, shouldn't it?

Those are writings froma nomadic desert tribe. I don't see much harm in believing they happened but I wouldn't try to repeat it for myself. Its not like meditating with Solfeggio frequencies.

AV1611VET · Apr 5, 2023

Frank Robert said:
Those are writings from a nomadic desert tribe. I don't see much harm in believing they happened but I wouldn't try to repeat it for myself.

Well you have to start with some kind of documentation.

But for the record, I agree with you.

Spirituality does indeed present a problem for science.

And for the reasons you gave: can't hypothesize it, can't test it, can't predict it, can't repeat it.

Science is myopic.

Neutral Observer · Apr 5, 2023

AV1611VET said:
Spirituality does indeed present a problem for science.

Alas it presents a problem for theism as well, especially if one holds to the claim that 'my' version of spirituality is correct and everyone else's is wrong. After all it's just as hard for the RCC to disprove FSM as it is for science to disprove spirituality.

AV1611VET · Apr 5, 2023

Walking Contradiction said:
Alas it presents a problem for theism as well, especially if one holds to the claim that 'my' version of spirituality is correct and everyone else's is wrong.

Right or wrong, if you're going to present it as problematic to scientists because it can't be run through the scientific method, I'm going to totally agree.

All science can do is observe the effects of its existence (holidays, iconography, etc) and wonder.

And in fact, the Bible calls them "wonders."

Walking Contradiction said:
After all it's just as hard for the RCC to disprove FSM as it is for science to disprove spirituality.

I disagree.

Does the FSM have two major nations on the earth that wouldn't exist without it?

As I love to point out here: JERUSALEM

Hans Blaster · Apr 5, 2023

AV1611VET said:
Does the FSM have two major nations on the earth that wouldn't exist without it?

As I love to point out here: JERUSALEM

Are you having fun with your word search on Sun Da?

AV1611VET · Apr 5, 2023

Hans Blaster said:
Are you having fun with your word search on Sun Da?

Like I did in this thread fifteen years ago?

My AV1611VET Challenge

Hans Blaster · Apr 5, 2023

AV1611VET said:
Like I did in this thread fifteen years ago?

My AV1611VET Challenge

Did you read the paper about classifying things I posted? Under that plan Pluto and Earth would again be in the same category.

Neutral Observer · Apr 5, 2023

AV1611VET said:
Does the FSM have two major nations on the earth that wouldn't exist without it?

I don't know, and you don't either. What the Flying Spaghetti Monster wants the Flying Spaghetti Monster gets.

AV1611VET · Apr 5, 2023

Hans Blaster said:
Did you read the paper about classifying things I posted?

Negative.

I tend to shy away from org sites.

Hans Blaster said:
Under that plan Pluto and Earth would again be in the same category.

What does the sneaky IAU have to say about that?

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