Passover For Christians

Der Alte · Jan 17, 2022

HARK! said:
YHWH gave us very specific instructions on when and how to keep Passover.

And YHWH also gave exceptions 9,10,11, 12

Mr. M · Jan 17, 2022

Der Alte said:
I have never seen a specific date identified in any of the accounts about the Lord's last supper.

The Day Before?
John 13:
1 Now before the Feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that His hour had come that He
should depart from this world to the Father, having loved His own who were in the world,
He loved them to the end.
2 And supper being ended, the devil having already put it into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon’s son, to betray Him...
Matthew 26:
1 Now it came to pass, when Jesus had finished all these sayings,He said to His disciples,
2 You know that after two days is the Passover, and the Son of Man will be delivered
up to be crucified.

Mr. M · Jan 17, 2022

HARK! said:
YHWH gave us very specific instructions on when and how to keep Passover.

We are commanded to keep The Lord's Supper.
Luke 22:19 And He took bread, gave thanks and broke, and gave to them, saying,
This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.
Do what in remembrance of Me? Break bread together.
Acts 2:
46 So continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house
to house, they ate their food with gladness and simplicity of heart,
47 praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily
those who were being saved.

Now if you will, please consider this: Paul did not attend this last supper,
but the Lord gave Him the information he was to instruct the Gentiles.
1 Corinthians 11:
23 For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: that
the Lord Jesus on the night in which He was betrayed took bread;
24 and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, Take, eat; this is My body
which is broken for you; do this in remembrance of Me.
25 In the same manner also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new covenant
in My blood. This do, as often as you drink, in remembrance of Me.
26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s
death till He comes.

How often do we keep His command? "As often as" we are able to sit together at table
and break bread in fellowship. And what is the Lord's remembrance toward those who
obey His command? "The remembrance of His holiness".
Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there
in the midst of them.

Psalms 97:12 Rejoice in the Lord, you righteous,
And give thanks at the remembrance of His holiness.

Allen of the Cross · Jan 17, 2022

HARK! said:
YHWH gave us very specific instructions on when and how to keep Passover.

Do you think keeping Jewish holy days is required for salvation?

HARK! · Jan 17, 2022

Allen of the Cross said:
Do you think keeping Jewish holy days is required for salvation?

What house are you from?

Allen of the Cross · Jan 17, 2022

HARK! said:
What house are you from?

Hi Hark! We talked in the past, you were kind to me. Good to talk to you again! I don't know what you mean by "house." I'm in the household of Christ I suppose.

HARK! · Jan 17, 2022

Allen of the Cross said:
Hi Hark! We talked in the past, you were kind to me. Good to talk to you again! I don't know what you mean by "house." I'm in the household of Christ I suppose.

Hi Allen,

It's good to see you again.

Messiah was commissioned for none but the lost sheep of the house of Yashar El. So it is written

YHWH has renewed his covenant with Yashar El. His Torah is written on our hearts. So it is written.

Do you realize that YHWH made a covenant with Yashar El, before the Torah was written down at Sinai?

That threshold covenant was sealed with the blood of the lamb on their doorposts. YHWH became a member of each of each of the families that invited YHWH into their homes.

In the renewed covenant, YHWH has offered the lamb. Yahshua (Yah's salvation) is the door. The blood is on YHWH's doorposts. He is inviting us into his home, to be part of his family, under his headship. Are you of the house of Yashar EL? Do you believe that YHWH allows rebellion in his house?

Clare73 · Jan 17, 2022

Yeshua HaDerekh said:
Well since sin is the transgression of the law and the wages of sin is death...the curse of the law is death...we were ALL under the curse...death...because we ALL sin...

In the OT, the Gentles were not under the curse of the Mosaic law.
They were judged by another standard (Romans 2:14-15).

yet Yeshua became a curse for us...to redeem us from the curse...redeem us from sin and death...

Yes, all who rely on observing the law are under a curse (Galatians 3:10).

Righteousness of justification is from God only (Romans 1:17, Romans 3:20) by faith only (Romans 3:21, Roman 3:28), never by observing the law.[/QUOTE]

Yeshua HaDerekh · Jan 17, 2022

Clare73 said:
Yes, all who rely on observing the law are under a curse (Galatians 3:10).

Righteousness of justification is from God only (Romans 1:17, Romans 3:20) by faith only (Romans 3:21, Roman 3:28), never by observing the law.

You are coming at it backwards...we ALL sin...sin is the transgression of the law. The wages of sin is death. Yeshua became a curse for us to redeem us from the curse.

Clare73 · Jan 17, 2022

Yeshua HaDerekh said:
You are coming at it backwards...we ALL sin...sin is the transgression of the law. The wages of sin is death. Yeshua became a curse for us to redeem us from the curse.

What is "backwards" about the curse of the law being on all those who rely on observing the law (Galatians 3:10)?

Did Jesus' apostle get it wrong?

Who here has authority over Jesus' apostle to declare that he got it wrong?

I simply stated what the apostle stated.

HARK! · Jan 17, 2022

Clare73 said:
In the OT, the Gentles were not under the curse of the Mosaic law.
They were judged by another standard (Romans 2:14-15).

Oh my.

This is what YHWH says:

(CLV) Num 15:16
One law and one custom, it shall come to be for you and for the sojourner sojourning with you.

Clare73 · Jan 17, 2022

HARK! said:
Oh my.

This is what YHWH says:

(CLV) Num 15:16
One law and one custom, it shall come to be for you and for the
sojourner sojourning with you.

So all the Gentiles sojourned with the Jews?

"Oh my," indeed.

Yeshua HaDerekh · Jan 17, 2022

Clare73 said:
What is "backwards" about the curse of the law being on all those who rely on observing the law (Galatians 3:10)?

Did Jesus' apostle get it wrong?

Who here has authority over Jesus' apostle to declare that he got it wrong?

I simply stated what the apostle stated.

No you interpreted it backwards...the sin comes first then the curse...the law stands

Yeshua HaDerekh · Jan 17, 2022

Clare73 said:
In the OT, the Gentles were not under the curse of the Mosaic law.
They were judged by another standard (Romans 2:14-15).

I hope you notice that the quote is in parenthesis...you DO know what that means, right? Also, nations WERE judged for sin...Sodom, etc...

HARK! · Jan 17, 2022

Clare73 said:
What is "backwards" about the curse of the law being on all those who rely on observing the law (Galatians 3:10)?

You were already shown your errors in post Post #130

Why repeat the same mistakes?

You might wish to read Deuteronomy 28:2 as well.

(CLV) Dt 28:2
And all these blessings will come on you and overtake you in case you should hearken to the voice of Yahweh your Elohim.

It is disobedience to YHWH's law that brings the curses.

(CLV) Ro 2:13
For not the listeners to law are just with God, but the doers of law shall be justified.

HARK! · Jan 17, 2022

Clare73 said:
So all the Gentiles sojourned with the Jews?

"Oh my," indeed.

How did you come to that conclusion?

The Gentiles at Nineveh didn't; and YHWH didn't ask them to. He said that he was going to destroy them; and they knew exactly what to do, they bowed down and repented; and then they were saved.

ChetSinger · Jan 17, 2022

Der Alte said:
Matthew 26:19-21
19 And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover.
20 Now when the even was come, he sat down with the twelve.
21 And as they did eat, he said, Verily I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me.
Mark 14:15-18
15 And he will shew you a large upper room furnished and prepared: there make ready for us.
16 And his disciples went forth, and came into the city, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover.
17 And in the evening he cometh with the twelve.
18 And as they sat and did eat, Jesus said, Verily I say unto you, One of you which eateth with me shall betray me.
Luke 22:14-16
14 And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him.
15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:
16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.

I really don't understand how anyone could think the Last Supper wasn't a Passover meal. There it is, in black and white. In three separate Gospels, no less. How is this not a no-brainer?

Clare73 · Jan 17, 2022

Yeshua HaDerekh said:
No you interpreted it backwards...the sin comes first then the curse...the law stands

Who said the law didn't "stand"?

Yes, sin comes first. . .and the text of the apostle also stands, "All who are of works of the law (rather than of grace and faith) are under a curse." (Galatians 3:10)

Clare73 · Jan 17, 2022

Yeshua HaDerekh said:
I hope you notice that the quote is in parenthesis...you DO know what that means, right?

Yes. . .that it means what it states.

Also, nations WERE judged for sin...Sodom, etc...

Romans 2 is about the Mosaic law, which was long after Sodom.

Clare73 · Jan 17, 2022

HARK! said:
You were already shown your errors in post Post #130

< sigh >

There is no error, only one's unbelief of apostolic teaching, in:

"All who are of works of the law (rather than of grace and faith) are under a curse." (Galatians 3:10)
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