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Who ever started the RiotWould this be in regards to the police or the rioters?
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Who ever started the RiotWould this be in regards to the police or the rioters?
And that's fine.
You just seemed bothered by white people getting shot at by police in Europe so I assumed you were worried about PEOPLE getting shot by police everywhere.
My mistake!
"on a number of occasions the police felt it necessary to draw their weapons to defend themselves"..."They shot at protesters. People were injured"
I find it interesting how Aboutaleb can say it so nonchalantly, and everyone's is just like; oh, okay then...
I mean, did they not just shoot at unarmed protesters? Because in American culture, this would spark outrage.
It's not, but it's generally it's also frowned upon when the law shoots people for arson. There were lots of hard projectiles thrown at police in 2020 here, like frozen water bottles, which have the potential to injure or kill. But police were not allowed to use deadly force against the ones doing it.Where in the Constitution is the right to throw rocks at anyone or start fires on the property that isn't yours?
The cops or the bonehead rioters? Gun packers and anarchists. Must be the cops mailed in ballots for Trump.I'm waiting for someone to refer to them as Trump supporters.
I appreciate that. I'm curious about what my cousin's in amsterdam and around holland htink.....I was hoping we could do a topic that didn't revolve around the United States for once... Something "new".
Then I guess we'll have to wait and see how justified these shootings was before claiming that the Netherlands have no human rights.That depends whether the shooting is ruled justified or not.
Riots are a problem. How do the police calm them down without using lethal force.No, the subject is the police shooting of unarmed civilians. That's the topic of this thread.
Riots are a problem. How do the police calm them down without using lethal force.
The riot act used in the british empire was, clear the streets in 15 minutes or be shot.
Over the years you see water cannon, riot shields and walking lines of people, Kettling where the group are contained for 4 to 8 hours in a small area and not allowed out, rubber bullets, tear gas.
Kettling seems to work when protests go into riots and the groups can be isolated.
If the above does not work, it often comes down to police shooting at people.
I have a lot of sympathy for the police against a group intent on violent damage to property and people and not contained within a small group. Why should a policeman sacrifice their lives for the sake of this group? What right of the group have to avoid the ultimate sanction of lethal force?
Peaceful protest is one thing, or peacefully stopping movement on the roads or transport system. It is annoying and creates attention to the cause, but is passive in terms of threat and harm.
For me the subject which the people are rioting about does matter. There is a line between revolutionary protest, which overthrows the current power structure and complaint against the current power structure.
If it is an attempt at revolution, different tactics will be used rather than just a complaint about injustice and bad response, like the black lives matter protests over police killing suspects on the street.
I think it's interesting that citizens living in Monarchies like the Netherlands and the UK seem to have a culture that is far more protective of it's government's actions than what I'm familiar with.
Do you suppose there's any truth in this statement?
...Because in my country, this would have quickly sparked massive outrage, so I'm trying to understand why this protection of government exists in these parts of Europe, and I'm thinking it's related to the historical existence of a monarchial enriched culture, where people still feel compelled to side with royalty, as it remains engrained in the culture or tradition.
Queen Máxima of the Netherlands - Wikipedia