USCIS Is Enforcing COVID Vaccination Mandate

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I just found out the day before yesterday that USCIS is requiring all immigrants 5 years old and up who are applying for adjustment of status to be vaccinated for COVID. So I had to take my wife and two daughters to be vaccinated otherwise we would not be able to complete their adjustment of status that we began in April. I’m a bit confused on how the mandate was overruled by the court and yet immigrants are not being protected under that same ruling. How can USCIS legally make this requirement? This doesn’t seem right to me.
 

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I’m a bit confused on how the mandate was overruled by the court and yet immigrants are not being protected under that same ruling. How can USCIS legally make this requirement? This doesn’t seem right to me.
I am not educated like you are; so first I am going to look up "USCIS" to see what this stands for >

United States Citizenship and Immigration Services

In the United States, there have been times when courts have made bad rulings. So, in case vaccines mainly have the potential for good, we could say the USCIS is protecting you from that court ruling.
 
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I just found out the day before yesterday that USCIS is requiring all immigrants 5 years old and up who are applying for adjustment of status to be vaccinated for COVID. So I had to take my wife and two daughters to be vaccinated otherwise we would not be able to complete their adjustment of status that we began in April. I’m a bit confused on how the mandate was overruled by the court and yet immigrants are not being protected under that same ruling. How can USCIS legally make this requirement? This doesn’t seem right to me.

I thought the mandate blocked was the one set by OSHA? That would not affect any decisions made by USCIS. Given that there are likely several vaccinations required for entering the country I don't find it overly surprising this one is added.
 
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I just found out the day before yesterday that USCIS is requiring all immigrants 5 years old and up who are applying for adjustment of status to be vaccinated for COVID. So I had to take my wife and two daughters to be vaccinated otherwise we would not be able to complete their adjustment of status that we began in April. I’m a bit confused on how the mandate was overruled by the court and yet immigrants are not being protected under that same ruling. How can USCIS legally make this requirement? This doesn’t seem right to me.

Because the court only overruled the government requiring private businesses to mandate the vaccine. USCIS is a government agency, so they certainly can set their own rules.
 
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I thought the mandate blocked was the one set by OSHA? That would not affect any decisions made by USCIS. Given that there are likely several vaccinations required for entering the country I don't find it overly surprising this one is added.

I believe it was an executive order from Biden not an OSHA regulation. None of the other vaccines are experimental, they’ve all been administered for decades. The COVID vaccines haven’t been around for a year.
 
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I am not educated like you are; so first I am going to look up "USCIS" to see what this stands for >

United States Citizenship and Immigration Services

In the United States, there have been times when courts have made bad rulings. So, in case vaccines mainly have the potential for good, we could say the USCIS is protecting you from that court ruling.

Protecting me how?
 
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Because the court only overruled the government requiring private businesses to mandate the vaccine. USCIS is a government agency, so they certainly can set their own rules.

I get that but it would seem that the same logic should apply in both cases. If US citizens can’t be forced to be vaccinated then people applying to be a US citizen should be under the same regulations.
 
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See the thing about this is my family is here legally and they can legally stay in the United States the rest of their life without being vaccinated. The problem is if they want a social security number they have to go thru the adjustment of status process which now requires then to be vaccinated but they can stay in the US for the rest of their life without having to go thru the adjustment of status process. So it would seem that the US government is only viewing them as a potential danger if they are seeking to attain a social security card and not for simply living in the US which doesn’t make sense to me.
 
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I get that but it would seem that the same logic should apply in both cases. If US citizens can’t be forced to be vaccinated then people applying to be a US citizen should be under the same regulations.

Except it's not the same logic. Business owners can mandate the vaccine -- it's just that the government can't compel the business owners to do so. This time, the government is the business owner...

Your mistake is assuming the law is protecting ordinary citizens -- it's not; just the business owners.
 
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I don’t think it’s good that thousands will die trying to become a US citizen.
The vaccination will not kill thousands.
 
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I believe it was an executive order from Biden not an OSHA regulation.

The executive order was to government agencies and has not been blocked by the courts to my knowledge. The courts blocked the OSHA regulation on private businesses with 100+ employees.

None of the other vaccines are experimental, they’ve all been administered for decades. The COVID vaccines haven’t been around for a year.
The Covid vaccine is no longer experimental and is considered to be one of the safest vaccines ever created.
 
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The executive order was to government agencies and has not been blocked by the courts to my knowledge. The courts blocked the OSHA regulation on private businesses with 100+ employees.

Ok I might’ve gotten some misinformation, I was told that OSHA’s reaction was the result of Biden’s executive order.
 
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It already has, almost 9,000 dead from the vaccine in America alone.
You have been grossly misinformed.

ETA: Vaccine providers are required to submit any and all deaths that occur after a vaccination to VAERS, no matter the cause. Investigation of the reported deaths has shown no obvious link to the vaccine, except for 5 cases involving the J&J vaccine and blood clots.

Furthermore, even if all deaths reported in VAERS were caused by the vaccine, there have been more than 440 million doses of the vaccine administered in the US. 9000 deaths works out to a rate of 0.002%. In order for "thousands" of migrants to die at that rate, there would need to be more than 50 million of them receiving the vaccine (100 million doses) in the first place.

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Ok I might’ve gotten some misinformation, I was told that OSHA’s reaction was the result of Biden’s executive order.

I don't know if it was or not but in any case it is only OSHA mandate that is blocked.
 
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Citation needed.
He's just using the total number of deaths reported in VAERS in association with the COVID vaccine. Which is an incorrect usage of the data, but when has that ever stopped anyone.
 
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