What was Paul's outline when he unpacked the Gospel for unbelievers?

Fred Akers · Nov 8, 2021

We know his topic he unpacked for them when he first met the non-believers in Corinth . . . 1 Cor 2:2 . . . I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified . . . but what exactly did he say to them? Jesus was Paul's topic, but what specifically did he say about Jesus that got so many to follow Jesus? Philip has the same topic with the Ethiopian Eunuch in Acts 8. Paul says in Galatians he compared what he said to non-believers with what the rest of the Apostles presented, so there must have been a loose outline of presenting Jesus everyone agreed on.

Did he give unbelievers the four spiritual laws? If so, that would be important enough would it not to be listed in the Scriptures as his outline?

Paul did not have a New Testament . . . so what did he say to them exactly? Whatever he said, it says in Rom 1:16-17, whatever he said was the ultimate power.

What was the Apostle's outline? I would really like to know.

BrotherJJ · Nov 8, 2021

Fred Akers said:
We know his topic he unpacked for them when he first met the non-believers in Corinth . . . 1 Cor 2:2 . . . I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified . . . but what exactly did he say to them? Jesus was Paul's topic, but what specifically did he say about Jesus that got so many to follow Jesus? Philip has the same topic with the Ethiopian Eunuch in Acts 8. Paul says in Galatians he compared what he said to non-believers with what the rest of the Apostles presented, so there must have been a loose outline of presenting Jesus everyone agreed on.

Did he give unbelievers the four spiritual laws? If so, that would be important enough would it not to be listed in the Scriptures as his outline?

Paul did not have a New Testament . . . so what did he say to them exactly? Whatever he said, it says in Rom 1:16-17, whatever he said was the ultimate power.

What was the Apostle's outline? I would really like to know.

I believe Paul's outline is that it was Jesus faithful obedient sin atoning work that paid for & conquered sin. And our faith place in it/Him whereby a believer is forgiven/saved

Rom 3:25 “Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;”

1 Jn 4:10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

Rom 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by "faith of Jesus Christ" unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
(NOTE: The Faith "OF" Christ)

Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the "faith of the Son of God", who loved me, and gave himself for me.
(NOTE: We live by the faith "OF" the Son of God, who loved us, and gave himself as a sin sacrifice for us)

Gal 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by "faith of Jesus Christ" might be given to them that believe.
(NOTE: The promise by the faith "OF" Jesus Christ. Then our Faith placed in Christ's work)

Rom 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by "faith of Jesus Christ" unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
(NOTE: The Faith "OF" Christ)

Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the "faith of the Son of God", who loved me, and gave himself for me.
(NOTE: We live by the faith "OF" the Son of God, who loved us, and gave himself as a sin sacrifice for us)

Gal 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by "faith of Jesus Christ" might be given to them that believe.
(NOTE: The promise by the faith "OF" Jesus Christ. Then our Faith placed in Christ's work)

Phil 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but "that which is through the "faith of Christ", the righteousness which is of God by faith:
(NOTE: Not by our own righteousness obtained thru law keeping. BUT thru the faith "OF" Christ)

Habakkuk 2:4 Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but "the just shall live by his faith".
(NOTE: The just live by "HIS" faith!)

Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the "faith of Jesus Christ", even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the "faith of Christ" and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
(NOTE: It's the Faith "OF" Christ & thru the righteousness of Christ's obedient works. That when we place our faith in Him & His work. Christ becomes the Lord our righteousness (Jer 23:6 & 33:16). And God judicially justifies us ="Declares us Righteous in His sight)

Fred Akers · Nov 8, 2021

Ok, thanks for your response, so do you share this with people who are not Christians that you first meet? I mean if you do, do you get the same results as the Apostle Paul? Is what you shared exactly what the Apostle Paul shared? In that meeting in Jerusalem with the other Apostles as they were comparing their gospels, would what you just shared be the outline they agreed to? Thank you again.

royal priest · Nov 8, 2021

It depended on the context of his hearers.
Sometimes he appealed to the OT. Sometimes to philosophy. Regardless, he always brought it back to the gospel of Jesus.

BrotherJJ · Nov 8, 2021

Fred Akers said:
Ok, thanks for your response, so do you share this with people who are not Christians that you first meet? I mean if you do, do you get the same results as the Apostle Paul? Is what you shared exactly what the Apostle Paul shared? In that meeting in Jerusalem with the other Apostles as they were comparing their gospels, would what you just shared be the outline they agreed to? Thank you again.

Paul wrote 13-14 epistles/books. I tried to offer a brief outline.

When sharing Paul's gospel proclamation I start with:

1 Cor 15:
1 Now brothers and sisters, let me remind you [once again] of the good news [of salvation] which I preached to you, which you welcomed and accepted and on which you stand [by faith].

2 By this faith you are saved [reborn from above—spiritually transformed, renewed, and set apart for His purpose], if you hold firmly to the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain [just superficially and without complete commitment].

3 For I passed on to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to [that which] the Scriptures [foretold],

4 and that He was buried, and that He was [bodily] raised on the third day according to [that which] the Scriptures [foretold],
(MY NOTE: The simplification here is: Christ died for YOUR sins, was buried (proof He died) & ROSE from the grave (Father's receipt, Sin payment received & accepted)

NEXT:
Rom 10:
9 because if you acknowledge and confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord [recognizing His power, authority, and majesty as God], and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

10 For with the heart a person believes [in Christ as Savior] resulting in his justification [that is, being made righteous—being freed of the guilt of sin and made acceptable to God]; and with the mouth he acknowledges and confesses [his faith openly], resulting in and confirming [his] salvation.

11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him [whoever adheres to, trusts in, and relies on Him] will not be disappointed [in his expectations].”
(NOTE: Paul's gospel proclamation here: Confess Jesus as Lord/Savior & believe He was resurrected & YOU will be forgiven ALL your sin/transgressions of God's law)

Fred Akers · Nov 8, 2021

ok . . . i like that . . . thank you, let me ruminate on that for a bit

Fred Akers · Nov 8, 2021

royal priest said:
It depended on the context of his hearers.
Sometimes he appealed to the OT. Sometimes to philosophy. Regardless, he always brought it back to the gospel of Jesus.

Ok, i get that he would come at the gospel from different vantage points . . . my question is more at, when he finally got to the Gospel from whatever vantage point he started from, what is it exactly that he shared once the Gospel was shared?

Fred Akers · Nov 8, 2021

BrotherJJ said:
Paul wrote 13-14 epistles/books. I tried to offer a brief outline.

When sharing Paul's gospel proclamation I start with:

1 Cor 15:
1 Now brothers and sisters, let me remind you [once again] of the good news [of salvation] which I preached to you, which you welcomed and accepted and on which you stand [by faith].

2 By this faith you are saved [reborn from above—spiritually transformed, renewed, and set apart for His purpose], if you hold firmly to the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain [just superficially and without complete commitment].

3 For I passed on to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to [that which] the Scriptures [foretold],

4 and that He was buried, and that He was [bodily] raised on the third day according to [that which] the Scriptures [foretold],
(MY NOTE: The simplification here is: Christ died for YOUR sins, was buried (proof He died) & ROSE from the grave (Father's receipt, Sin payment received & accepted)

NEXT:
Rom 10:
9 because if you acknowledge and confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord [recognizing His power, authority, and majesty as God], and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

10 For with the heart a person believes [in Christ as Savior] resulting in his justification [that is, being made righteous—being freed of the guilt of sin and made acceptable to God]; and with the mouth he acknowledges and confesses [his faith openly], resulting in and confirming [his] salvation.

11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him [whoever adheres to, trusts in, and relies on Him] will not be disappointed [in his expectations].”
(NOTE: Paul's gospel proclamation here: Confess Jesus as Lord/Savior & believe He was resurrected & YOU will be forgiven ALL your sin/transgressions of God's law)

Ok, interesting, so do you think he might have expanded on the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus and talked more about that? I don't see how Romans 10 is connected to the death and the burial, although I do think his resurrection is the key component to the Gospel. Also, isn't Romans written to Christians? How do we know that Romans 10 is what he shared with non-Christians? Thank you.

d taylor · Nov 8, 2021

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Paul gave to unbelievers the only words that tells an unbeliever how to have Eternal life. And that is to believe that Jesus is the promised Messiah from the prophecies of The Tanakh and to trust in The Messiah for Eternal Life.

klutedavid · Nov 8, 2021

Fred Akers said:
We know his topic he unpacked for them when he first met the non-believers in Corinth . . . 1 Cor 2:2 . . . I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified . . . but what exactly did he say to them? Jesus was Paul's topic, but what specifically did he say about Jesus that got so many to follow Jesus? Philip has the same topic with the Ethiopian Eunuch in Acts 8. Paul says in Galatians he compared what he said to non-believers with what the rest of the Apostles presented, so there must have been a loose outline of presenting Jesus everyone agreed on.

Did he give unbelievers the four spiritual laws? If so, that would be important enough would it not to be listed in the Scriptures as his outline?

Paul did not have a New Testament . . . so what did he say to them exactly? Whatever he said, it says in Rom 1:16-17, whatever he said was the ultimate power.

What was the Apostle's outline? I would really like to know.

You had two previous posts which stated the gospel of Jesus Christ (post #2 and post #5) very well.

These two gospel narrations (#2,#5) state that the gift of reconciliation, the gift of salvation. Are
freely given to us, we do not need to do anything (works) to obtain our salvation. We just need to trust in Jesus Christ, and confess Christ. It is really that easy to be saved.

Matthew 11:30
For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.

Never forget that easy and light gospel message.

You will be assailed by the department of faith and works, and the department of faith and law.

Hope you survive and remain faithful to the simple gospel.

klutedavid · Nov 8, 2021

Fred Akers said:
Ok, interesting, so do you think he might have expanded on the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus and talked more about that? I don't see how Romans 10 is connected to the death and the burial, although I do think his resurrection is the key component to the Gospel. Also, isn't Romans written to Christians? How do we know that Romans 10 is what he shared with non-Christians? Thank you.

If you have a solid understanding of the letter to the Romans. Then you will realize that Paul is explaining to the Jews in Rome and the Gentiles also. Why Israel failed so dramatically to achieve salvation.

Romans 9:30-32
What shall we say then? That Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, attained righteousness, even the righteousness which is by faith; but Israel, pursuing a law of righteousness, did not arrive at that law. Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as though it were by works. They stumbled over the stumbling stone.

That faith is the faith in the gospel of Jesus Christ; which means 1 Corinthians 15, Romans 10:9-11.

Rapture Bound · Nov 8, 2021

BrotherJJ replied on post #2, "Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the "faith of Jesus Christ", even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the "faith of Christ" and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
(NOTE: It's the Faith "OF" Christ & thru the righteousness of Christ's obedient works. That when we place our faith in Him & His work. Christ becomes the Lord our righteousness (Jer 23:6 & 33:16). And God judicially justifies us ="Declares us Righteous in His sight)"

Yes, yes, and yes my friend, this is a very critical gospel truth that many fail to properly assimilate! Perhaps you would like to read my comments pertaining to the "faith OF Christ" on my thread ... "Preserved by the Faith of Christ :" - Post #79, page 4 ...
Can a genuine, blood-bought, regenerated believer forfeit their salvation?

Fred Akers · Nov 8, 2021

d taylor said:
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Paul gave to unbelievers the only words that tells an unbeliever how to have Eternal life. And that is to believe that Jesus is the promised Messiah from the prophecies of The Tanakh and to trust in The Messiah for Eternal Life.

What about knowing him as a requirement for eternal life . . . John 17:3 . . . Jesus says, to be saved you must know him as well. I mean I can get almost anyone to believe I own a red truck. For them to know for sure I own a red truck, that is a different matter, there has to be some personal hands on experience they have with knowing I have a red truck. My guess is that somehow the unpacking of the gospel somehow gets someone to know Jesus meeting the requirement in John 17:3 . . . hence my question. I want to know how to unpack the gospel for people to come to know Jesus the way Paul did. John echoes this in 1 John 4:7-8 that being born again, knowing Jesus, and loving Jesus all seem to happen simultaneously.

So a related question, is belief the beginning of knowing, or should we just be satisfied that people just believe in Jesus? That does not square with John 17:3. To believe Jesus does not necessarily mean you know Jesus, but to know Jesus and love him necessitates that you also believe in him. So I would think you would want to target getting people to know Jesus for eternal life through the gospel and understand they have to believe Jesus words as a prerequisite to get to know him.

A little more clarification then on my quesiton, and I thank you for the discourse: How did the Apostle Paul share the gospel so that people would know Jesus in order to love Jesus in order to be born again in order to have eternal life?

Fred Akers · Nov 8, 2021

Rapture Bound said:
BrotherJJ replied on post #2, "Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the "faith of Jesus Christ", even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the "faith of Christ" and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
(NOTE: It's the Faith "OF" Christ & thru the righteousness of Christ's obedient works. That when we place our faith in Him & His work. Christ becomes the Lord our righteousness (Jer 23:6 & 33:16). And God judicially justifies us ="Declares us Righteous in His sight)"

Yes, yes, and yes my friend, this is a very critical gospel truth that many fail to properly assimilate! Perhaps you would like to read my comments pertaining to the "faith OF Christ" on my thread ... "Preserved by the Faith of Christ :" - Post #79, page 4 ...
Can a genuine, blood-bought, regenerated believer forfeit their salvation?

Ok, yes I will, thank you.

Fred Akers · Nov 8, 2021

klutedavid said:
If you have a solid understanding of the letter to the Romans. Then you will realize that Paul is explaining to the Jews in Rome and the Gentiles also. Why Israel failed so dramatically to achieve salvation.

Romans 9:30-32
What shall we say then? That Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, attained righteousness, even the righteousness which is by faith; but Israel, pursuing a law of righteousness, did not arrive at that law. Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as though it were by works. They stumbled over the stumbling stone.

That faith is the faith in the gospel of Jesus Christ; which means 1 Corinthians 15, Romans 10:9-11.

Ok, thank you, I will think about this, appreciate your response.

Fred Akers · Nov 8, 2021

klutedavid said:
You had two previous posts which stated the gospel of Jesus Christ (post #2 and post #5) very well.

These two gospel narrations (#2,#5) state that the gift of reconciliation, the gift of salvation. Are
freely given to us, we do not need to do anything (works) to obtain our salvation. We just need to trust in Jesus Christ, and confess Christ. It is really that easy to be saved.

Matthew 11:30
For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.

Never forget that easy and light gospel message.

You will be assailed by the department of faith and works, and the department of faith and law.

Hope you survive and remain faithful to the simple gospel.

What about John 17:3 . . . Jesus says a requirement to salvation is that we know him. Are you saying believing in Jesus and knowing Jesus is the same things?

In post #13 I share how my question is further clarified with John 17:3 in mind.

com7fy8 · Nov 8, 2021

Fred Akers said:
A little more clarification then on my quesiton, and I thank you for the discourse: How did the Apostle Paul share the gospel so that people would know Jesus in order to love Jesus in order to be born again in order to have eternal life?

They sowed the seeds, and "God gave the increase." (in 1 Corinthians 3:6)

d taylor · Nov 8, 2021

Fred Akers said:
What about knowing him as a requirement for eternal life . . . John 17:3 . . . Jesus says, to be saved you must know him as well. I mean I can get almost anyone to believe I own a red truck. For them to know for sure I own a red truck, that is a different matter, there has to be some personal hands on experience they have with knowing I have a red truck. My guess is that somehow the unpacking of the gospel somehow gets someone to know Jesus meeting the requirement in John 17:3 . . . hence my question. I want to know how to unpack the gospel for people to come to know Jesus the way Paul did. John echoes this in 1 John 4:7-8 that being born again, knowing Jesus, and loving Jesus all seem to happen simultaneously.

So a related question, is belief the beginning of knowing, or should we just be satisfied that people just believe in Jesus? That does not square with John 17:3. To believe Jesus does not necessarily mean you know Jesus, but to know Jesus and love him necessitates that you also believe in him. So I would think you would want to target getting people to know Jesus for eternal life through the gospel and understand they have to believe Jesus words as a prerequisite to get to know him.

A little more clarification then on my quesiton, and I thank you for the discourse: How did the Apostle Paul share the gospel so that people would know Jesus in order to love Jesus in order to be born again in order to have eternal life?

You are not God, and could lie about having a red truck. God can not lie, so when God promises that, when a person believes in the Messiah for God's free gift of Eternal Life they have received God's free gift.

Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.

Fred Akers · Nov 8, 2021

d taylor said:
You are not God, and could lie about having a red truck. God can not lie, so when God promises that, when a person believes in the Messiah for God's free gift of Eternal Life they have received God's free gift.

Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.

Thank you, but that doesn't help me . . . belief is a subset of knowing . . . knowing is not a subset of belief . . . and yes, to prove that I am not lying I have a red truck someone would have to know I had a red truck from first hand experience, rather than to just take my word for it. That is exactly my point. My question is, how do we share the gospel to meet the requirements Jesus laid out for salvation in John 17:3 in coming to know him . . . an attainment beyond just mere belief?

klutedavid · Nov 8, 2021

Fred Akers said:
What about John 17:3 . . . Jesus says a requirement to salvation is that we know him. Are you saying believing in Jesus and knowing Jesus is the same things?

In post #13 I share how my question is further clarified with John 17:3 in mind.

To know Him is the same as to believe in Him. To have faith in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, is to trust in Jesus. We live a life of faith in Jesus, we endure in that faith!

Any good works, our holiness, is a response to His free gift of salvation. Works and holiness are not the reason for our salvation. Once again, salvation is a free gift given to those that believe. Perfect righteousness is also a free gift. You cannot earn salvation through repentance, legalism, even good works, or love.

John 17:1-5
Jesus spoke these things; and lifting up His eyes to heaven, He said, “Father, the hour has come; glorify Your Son, that the Son may glorify You, even as You gave Him authority over all flesh, that to all whom You have given Him, He may give eternal life. This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. I glorified You on the earth, having accomplished the work which You have given Me to do. Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.

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