Trust me you'll know when you receive the set-apart Spirit the change is evident and undeniable.
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Trust me you'll know when you receive the set-apart Spirit the change is evident and undeniable.
I just don't think anyone can do what you say we are to do.
"You don't think"? You think that because you "don't think anyone can" is enough to prove that it is impossible? So is it what you "think" wath decides wether or not anyone can do "what I say we are to do"? Are you the Judge of all things by chance? Is what you "think" more true than what God thinks? Do you even believe the word of God? Or just what you "think"? Do you think that because of what you "think", the word of God is not true anymore?
Doesn't the bible say to keep His word? You "don't think anyone can" keep His word? What you "think" does not change the word of God, just because you "think no one can" keep His word doesn't mean that "no one can" keep His word, you are not God here ok? Neither is what you "think" the absolute truth, you can "think" anything you want, just don't "think" against the word of God. Because if you continue with that mindset you will never make it.
You "don't think anyone can" but did Jesus not do everything perfectly? What about the Apostles, could they do what "I say" we are to do"? How can you say you don't believe "anyone" can be righteous? Again do you even believe in the bible? Don't we have numerous perfect loyal servants of God like: Noah, Job, John the Baptist, James the Just, Cornelius. And there are plenty more righteous and just, all writen in the bible, you don't have to believe anyone other than God.
Why does the bible commands us to do those things then? If "don't think anyone can", while would they ask the "impossible" out of us? Why are there commandments to keep? Since you "don't think anyone can" keep them?
Your "thinking" will fail you, just believe in Jesus.
I think we are righteous through faith, not by how well we work.
Zoidar: " We even see the apostles doing things that weren't perfect. Like Peter refusing to eat with Gentile Christians.
I think we are righteous through faith, not by how well we work."
DaDaBrothers, do you not think Zoidar has a right to think, what he can think ?
It is true that Peter did not eat with Gentile believers, because it was not lawful for him to do so, would anyone expect Peter to know things, before the Lord revealed them to him, too? The same way as Zoidar my not know right now, that Peter was made known the cleansing of the Gentiles, then this changes our belief, when we are made to see by God, does it not ?
See Zoidar, and tell me, if it makes some sense, that Peter was unaware of the Lord granting the gift of the Holy Ghost onto the Gentiles, and now it was lawful ( in the laws of Christ for Peter to remain with the Gentiles as they are made one new man with the Jew believer ( even though the Jew believer keeps some of the customs of the Jews) Do you notice Zoidar, that the believers of the circumcision were against peter for breaking their laws of eating with the uncircumcised...
Acts 10:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.
Acts 11:2 And when Peter was come up to Jerusalem, they that were of the circumcision contended with him,
3 Saying, Thou wentest in to men uncircumcised, and didst eat with them.
4 But Peter rehearsed the matter from the beginning, and expounded it by order unto them, saying,
5 I was in the city of Joppa praying: and in a trance I saw a vision, A certain vessel descend, as it had been a great sheet, let down from heaven by four corners; and it came even to me:
6 Upon the which when I had fastened mine eyes, I considered, and saw fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
7 And I heard a voice saying unto me, Arise, Peter; slay and eat.
8 But I said, Not so, Lord: for nothing common or unclean hath at any time entered into my mouth.
9 But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
10 And this was done three times: and all were drawn up again into heaven.
11 And, behold, immediately there were three men already come unto the house where I was, sent from Caesarea unto me.
12 And the Spirit bade me go with them, nothing doubting. Moreover these six brethren accompanied me, and we entered into the man's house:
13 And he shewed us how he had seen an angel in his house, which stood and said unto him, Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon, whose surname is Peter;
14 Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved.
15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?
18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
Ephesians 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Zoidar: I think we are righteous through faith, not by how well we work."
That is right Zoidar, so the answer is, we be not faithless as Thomas, doubted, but we be believing, as these things are written that we might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing we might have life through His name...
John 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
DaDaBrothers, do you not think Zoidar has a right to think, what he can think ?
... you must bear at least "thirtyfould" from the seed you have received ...
Jesus parable: Parable of the sower, only the good ground is saved.
Matthew 13:8 But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.
Zoidar: "At least Paul said Peter stood condemned by hypocrisy. Didn't Peter have his vision in Acts 10 before this event occured described in Galatians?
But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. For prior to the coming of certain men from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles; but when they came, he began to withdraw and hold himself aloof, fearing the party of the circumcision. The rest of the Jews joined him in hypocrisy, with the result that even Barnabas was carried away by their hypocrisy. But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas in the presence of all, “If you, being a Jew, live like the Gentiles and not like the Jews, how is it that you compel the Gentiles to live like Jews?
— Galatians 2:11-14"
Zoidar: "At least Paul said Peter stood condemned by hypocrisy."
People know the newer versions of the bible, are a little less reliable ( that is because we are in the most corrupted days at the end of the world right now)
Peter was to be blamed ( not condemned)
Because Peter and the Jews ran away ( from the Gentile believers) when the Jews ( believing Jews) could see them with the Gentile ( believers)
Paul had to correct the situation because people could have wrongly assumed this way was acceptable, when it was not. Paul then readdressed the situation, confirming how, we cannot be found sinners, by rebuilding again what was not done right. Also remember and being aware that this was first ( before Paul was called by Christ) Peters role of attending to the Gentiles, and Peter then had it revealed by the Lord how the Gentiles then were cleansed and accepted in God ( being given the Holy Ghost also)...
Galatians 2:11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
12 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.
13 And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.
14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?
15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles,
16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.
18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.
Zoidar: "At least Paul said Peter stood condemned by hypocrisy."
Peter did no hypocrisy, and we know that, because there is no condemnation, to them in Christ Jesus, as the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us who walk after the Spirit ( and Peter was no longer walking by the flesh)..
Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
So nobody shall say anything to the charge of Gods elect ( it is their misunderstanding if they do and need to repent ?)
Who are they who condemn ? God justifies, and makes intercession for us at the right hand of God ( as he is God on the same throne)..
Romans 8:33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
Lastly for us, the wicked cannot be justified, and the ones who condemn the just, are abomination to the Lord. ( if you acknowledge you may have misunderstood I will pray for your forgiveness, and I do not pray for many people normally)
Proverbs 17:15 He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord.
We do not trust, nor grow, nor learn, then replace our will, it is not that process, it is instead as testified, God chooses and we then know His will (instantly as seen in the Apostle Paul) which is also seeing the just one, and is hearing the voice of His mouth ( through the Spirit given into us and the new covenant written in our hearts/the law of Christ in a new soft heart, in the mind of Christ and in a heart that perceives).