The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations

eclipsenow · Aug 5, 2021

keras said:
Here is some Bible study for the deniers:

Isaiah 13:9 The Day of the Lord is coming, a cruel Day of wrath and fierce anger, to reduce the earth to desolation and to destroy all the wicked there.

1 Samuel 2:10 Those who oppose the Lord will be terrified, when He strikes from the heavens.

2 Samuel 22:8-16 The earth shakes from the Lord’s burning anger. He comes, with fiery arrows.

Psalms 11:6 He will rain fiery coals onto the wicked, scorching winds will strike them.

Psalms 18:13 The Lord thunders from the heavens amid a hail of glowing coals.

Psalm 21:9 The anger of the Lord will engulf His enemies in a fiery furnace, it will consume them.

Psalms 79:5-6 Pour out Your wrath on godless nations. Your fury will blaze like fire.

Psalms 97:2-5 Cloud enfolds Him, fire goes ahead and consumes His enemies.

Psalm 144:5-6 Part the heavens and come down, make smoke and send Your arrows far and wide.

Isaiah 2:12&21 The Lord has a Day of doom for the ungodly. He will arise and strike with terror.

Isaiah 4:4b The Lord will cleanse Jerusalem, with His judgement burning like fire.

Isaiah 9:18-19 Wicked people will burn, the land scorched and the people fuel for the fire.

Isaiah 10:17 The Light of Israel will become a fire, in one Day it will burn up His enemies.

Isaiah 13:6 Wail, for the Day of the Lord is at hand, devastation from the Almighty.

Isaiah 21:1 A Day of storms, sweeping through the wilderness, from a land of terror.

Isaiah 22:5 For the Lord has ordained a Day of tumult, a Day of woe and disaster in the world.

Isaiah 24:1 Beware, the Lord is about to strip the earth and scatter its inhabitants.

Isaiah 26:21 The Lord is coming from His dwelling place to punish peoples for their sins.

Isaiah 28:21-22 The Lord will arise and storm with rage, destruction is decreed upon the earth.

Isaiah 30:26a The sun will shine with seven times its normal strength on that Day.

Isaiah 34:2-4 The Lord’s anger is against all the nations, they are given over to slaughter. The sky will be rolled up like a scroll and their host [satellites] will fall like ripe figs.

Isaiah 42:13-15 The Lord will go forth like a warrior, He will lay waste to the earth.

Isaiah 51:6...the sky will be dispersed like smoke and the people will die like flies.

Isaiah 54:16 It was I who created the destroyer- with coals of fire, to deal out havoc.

Isaiah 63:4-6 I resolved on a Day of vengeance, I shattered nations in My fury.

Isaiah 64:1-2 When You tear apart the heavens, fire blazes and water boils.

Isaiah 66:15 The Lord will judge with fire, testing all mankind and many will be slain by Him.

Jeremiah 4:7 The Destroyer of nations has risen from His lair, cities will be waste and empty.

Jeremiah 9:21-22 Death has come to our towns, corpses lie like dung in the streets.

Jeremiah 12:14 I shall uproot the evil neighbours from My peoples Land, Judah too I will uproot.

Jeremiah 25:30-31 The Lord roars from on high, heard everywhere – the godless peoples will die.

Jeremiah 30:23 See what a scorching wind goes out, it whirls around the heads of the wicked.

Ezekiel 20:47 I am about to light a fire, it’s fiery flame will not be put out.

Ezekiel 21:3 & 28 I shall draw My sword of judgement and kill the righteous and wicked alike from the Negev northward. A sword drawn for slaughter, flashing like lightning.

Ezekiel 22:20As metal is melted in the crucible, so I shall gather you in My anger and refine you

Ezekiel 30:3-8 A Day is near, the Day of the Lord, a Day of doom and reckoning for the nations.

Hosea 8:14 Israel and Judah have forgotten their Maker, I shall send fire to burn their cities.

Hosea 9:7 The Day of punishment and wrath has come. Because of your guilt no one can see it.

Hosea 10:14 The tumult of disaster will rise against peoples, fortresses will be overthrown.

Joel 1:15 The Day is near, it comes – a mighty destruction from the Lord.

Joel 2:11 The Lord thunders as he leads the host. Great and terrible is the Day, who can endure it?

Amos 1:1-15 I shall send fire on Damascus, Gaza, Tyre, Edom and Ammon.

Amos 2:1-16 I shall send fire on Moab and Judah. Of Israel- their bravest warriors will flee.

Amos 5:17 There will be wailing in every vineyard, for I shall pass through your midst.

Amos 8:2-3 On that Day, I shall judge Israel, so many corpses laying everywhere.

Amos 8:8-9 On that Day, the sun will darken at noon and the earth will quake like ocean waves.

Obadiah 15 The Day of the Lord is at hand for all the peoples, their deeds will recoil on them.

Micah 1:3-4 Even now, the Lord is leaving His dwelling place, He comes down with fire.

Micah 4:11-12 Now, many nations are massed against Zion, they are gathered for the threshing.

Micah 5:10-11 On that Day, I will destroy your military and devastate your cities.

Nahum 1:1-3 The Lord is a God of vengeance, He will not let the guilty escape punishment.

Habakkuk 3:13-14 You go out to save Your people, You shatter the wicked, they are swept away.

Zephaniah 1:3 I shall destroy humans and animals, I shall bring the godless to their knees.

Zephaniah 2:2 Seek the Lord, seek righteousness, it may be you will be sheltered on that Day.

Zephaniah 3:8 Wait for the Day, when I stand up and accuse the nations and pour out My burning anger upon the whole world.

Haggai 2:6 & 22 In a little while, I shall shake the heavens and the earth, I will break the power of the heathen realms.

Zechariah 9:14 The Lord will appear over them, His arrows will flash, with trumpet and storms.

Malachi 4:1 The Day comes, burning like a furnace, all the godless will be as stubble, set ablaze.

Luke 21 :25-26 Signs will appear in the sky. People will stand helpless in fear of what is coming.

Hebrews 10:27 For the godless, there is only the terrifying expectation of judgement, of a fierce fire that will consume the Lord’s enemies.

2 Peter 3:10 The Day of the Lord will come unexpectedly. On that Day, the heavens will disappear with a great rushing sound, the elements dissolved in flames and the earth with all that is in it will be brought to judgement.

Revelation 6:12-14 The Lamb broke the sixth seal. There was a violent earthquake, the sun turned black, the stars [satellites] fell to the earth like ripe figs, the sky rolled up like a scroll and every mountain and island was dislodged from its place. Ref: Revised English Bible, some verses abridged.

These 72 Bible verses are most of those which describe the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath.

Of course they are different to the Return of Jesus because the Day of the Lord DEVELOPS through the bible into the vision we have of Judgement Day.

In the OT the "Day of Lord" is mostly predicting local, historical judgements and rarely discusses a distant, unrelated future 2500 years later! Paul Williamson teaches Old Testament at Moore Theological College.

While the Old Testament portrays God as the righteous judge of all the earth (cf. Gen 18:25; 1Sam 2:10; 1Chr 16:33) who holds both individuals and nations accountable for their actions (e.g., Deut 32:41; Psa 110:6; Job 19:29; Eccl 3:17; 11:9; Ezek 33:20; Jer 25:31; Joel 3:2), such divine judgment — often referred to as “the day of the LORD” or simply “that day” — is usually confined to the historical realm (i.e., military overthrow, physical curse and/or death); seldom, if ever, does it refer to a final, eschatological or eternal judgment. Some texts may arguably allude to such (e.g., Psa 1:5; Eccl 3:17; 11:9; 12:14), but the closest we get to a final assize in the Old Testament is the scene in Daniel 7, where the Ancient of Days presides over a heavenly court at which books are opened, the terrifying fourth beast is destroyed in blazing fire, and the eternal kingdom is given to God’s holy people. Arguably the same scenario is portrayed somewhat differently in Daniel 12, where those sleeping in the dust of the earth awake — some to glory and everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt. In any case, there is little doubt that both these texts inform the New Testament’s portrayal of the ultimate Day of the Lord and the final judgment.
The Final Judgment - The Gospel Coalition

keras · Aug 5, 2021

eclipsenow said:
In the OT the "Day of Lord" is mostly predicting local, historical judgements and rarely discusses a distant, unrelated future 2500 years later! Paul Williamson teaches Old Testament at Moore Theological College.

Pure unsupported opinion.
NONE of the 72 Prophesies I quoted have been fulfilled. You and your fav teachers get a fail in Bible Prophecy.

The Lord will do what He has told us. He will wipe out His enemies in the holy Land by fire and the rest of the world will accept a One World Govt.
But those faithful people, who trusted in the Lord for His protection and called on His Name on that terrible Day, will be saved. Joel2:32, Acts 2:21

eclipsenow · Aug 5, 2021

keras said:
Pure unsupported opinion.
NONE of the 72 Prophesies I quoted have been fulfilled. You and your fav teachers get a fail in Bible Prophecy.

Nah, they've studied the Ancient Hebrew, the Ancient Greek, the ancient contexts, the ancient idioms, the ancient sayings, the ancient metaphors, the ancient apocalyptic styles and symbols. I'm sorry it disappoints you and you want some kind of exciting know-what's-coming End Times table - I really am. I remember being obsessed with this stuff as a teenager. Was it Gorbachev? Was the anti-Christ number pattern in his birthmark? Was it Russia? Was it Saddam? Was it 9/11? Well - to be honest by 9/11 I was a convinced Amil. But I know plenty of people wondered if 9/11 was the start of Revelation because America hadn't been hit that hard by terrorists on American soil before.

But.

What about the fall of the Roman empire? The Black Death? Some of the great volcanoes and disasters and Earthquakes and fires and wars throughout history? Every generation had their end-times people - all foaming at the mouth with your level of intense absolute certainty.

The Lord will do what He has told us.

Of course he will - it's just you can't read what he's told us he will do.

He will wipe out His enemies in the holy Land by fire...

Yeah yeah.
Settle down.
There's a whole bunch of other OT prophecies to pick from - where have you slotted them in? You know, the stuff about plagues of locusts so thick they're like an army? Or did you just google "Bible verses about Fire" to support your CME dream?

What happened to the angels, the elements melting and a new heaven and new earth ushering ETERNITY?

Tell me this - when Jesus returns (because here he literally says "Coming of the Son of Man"), and some are 'taken' and some are 'left', what do you think is happening?

MATTHEW 24:35-44
“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.... “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

keras · Aug 5, 2021

eclipsenow said:
Nah, they've studied the Ancient Hebrew, the Ancient Greek, the ancient contexts, the ancient idioms, the ancient sayings, the ancient metaphors, the ancient apocalyptic styles and symbols.

And God has made their wisdom look foolish. 1 Corinthians 1:19-20
Jesus said: God has hidden these things; that is by the context: the coming Judgment and punishment of the Middle East and of the world.

Take one verse from my post #640 and prove when it was fulfilled.

eclipsenow said:
What about the fall of the Roman empire? The Black Death? Some of the great volcanoes and disasters and Earthquakes and fires and wars throughout history?

So what: they were ALL localized events.
The only worldwide disaster before now was Noah's Flood.
Jesus said: As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be when I come......
2 Peter 3:7 says: The present heavens and earth are reserved for burning on the day of Judgment....

To deny, disparage and flatly reject such warnings, is a very serious matter, especially as we can now see the trigger for this fiery Judgment in the huge preparations of the Islamic peoples to destroy Israel. Jeremiah 49:35:37, Psalms 7:12-16, +

eclipsenow said:
Of course he will - it's just you can't read what he's told us he will do.

I read the prophesies and I understand what they plainly state will happen.
You see: hyperbole, metaphor, allegory, symbols, figures of speech, etc, or you make the assumption, without any historical proof, that they happened in the past. A bad mistake, that leaves you in the dark of God's amazing Plans for our future.

eclipsenow said:
Or did you just google "Bible verses about Fire" to support your CME dream?

I have intensively studied all of the Bible for many years. The prophesies are all there for everyone to read. Why don't you see them?

eclipsenow said:
Tell me this - when Jesus returns (because here he literally says "Coming of the Son of Man"), and some are 'taken' and some are 'left', what do you think is happening?

Matthew 25:35-44 is not about the Return, when Jesus comes on the great Day of God Almighty, Revelation 16:14 and Named as the King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
It is a prophecy about the terrible Day of punishment, when He comes in fire; of the ungodly peoples. Some people will be killed and those who trusted in the Lord's protection and called upon His Name, will remain.

It will be the Day that will come unexpectedly, proved by 1 Thessalonians 5:3, which says the world will be peaceful when disaster strikes.
NOT how it will be before Jesus Returns, with the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls just having happened and a huge army assembled at Armageddon.

eclipsenow · Aug 5, 2021

keras said:
And God has made their wisdom look foolish. 1 Corinthians 1:19-20

Can you please stop calling many of my friends and mentors unsaved? I have pointed out so many times that you're not reading this verse right, and it's NOT about God shaming those who don't understand your particular end-times tables.

It's about salvation.

If we're going to have a conversation can you please stop calling my friends at Moore Theological College and other fine theological colleges around the world unsaved? It's against forum rules.

1 Cor 1

18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written:

“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”

20 Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 22 Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23 but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24 but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength.

26 Brothers and sisters, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth. 27 But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28 God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are, 29 so that no one may boast before him. 30 It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption. 31 Therefore, as it is written: “Let the one who boasts boast in the Lord.”

Jesus said: God has hidden these things; that is by the context: the coming Judgment and punishment of the Middle East and of the world.

Absolute piffle

STOP misquoting this verse - it only hurts your own credibility

DavidPT · Aug 5, 2021

eclipsenow said:
Exactly as the Amils say - we're in the tribulations now and have been for 2000 years because of the tone of the whole New Testament (about suffering, this life having many trials, persecution, etc) AND John himself saying he already SHARED in their TRIBULATIONS. NEXT!

There is tribulation and there is great tribulation. How can the following be describing the past 2000 years?

Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

The text says to this time. How does one apply that to a 2000 year period? I have been on the earth for sometime now, I don't ever recall anything like this where I live---For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Some wrongly apply Matthew 24:21-22 to 70 AD. That doesn't make sense though, the fact the elect in this context is meaning the church, and that it was mainly the unbelieving Jews who lost their lives in 70 AD. Those that would have been part of the church at the time, they got out before anything ever happened to them. It wasn't for their sake that those days got cut short, if assuming 70 AD.

Timtofly · Aug 5, 2021

eclipsenow said:
Can you please stop calling many of my friends and mentors unsaved? I have pointed out so many times that you're not reading this verse right, and it's NOT about God shaming those who don't understand your particular end-times tables.

It's about salvation.

If we're going to have a conversation can you please stop calling my friends at Moore Theological College and other fine theological colleges around the world unsaved? It's against forum rules.

1 Cor 1

18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written:

“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”

20 Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 22 Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23 but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24 but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength.

26 Brothers and sisters, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth. 27 But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28 God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are, 29 so that no one may boast before him. 30 It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption. 31 Therefore, as it is written: “Let the one who boasts boast in the Lord.”

Absolute piffle

STOP misquoting this verse - it only hurts your own credibility

As long as Moore Theological College is not accredited by the State, but solely relies on Faith alone for guidance, they are OK.

Ed Parenteau · Aug 5, 2021

keras said:
Jesus and all the Prophets told about future events. Some in their time, most for the distant future.
It is irrelevant who the Prophets were talking to when they prophesied, as we know that most if their prophesies have not occurred yet.
Therefore the dramatic and earth shattering events they spoke of are in our future. WE are the generation who will see it all!

So, if you don't believe the words of Jesus to his disciples, why would you believe anything else in the bible?

keras · Aug 5, 2021

eclipsenow said:
Can you please stop calling many of my friends and mentors unsaved?

I have never said that anyone who believes in God and Jesus, accepted their Salvation and kept the Commandments, are not saved.
I call you out for making a false accusation against me.

eclipsenow said:
“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”

This verse is not misquoted.
Proved by Matthew 11:25, where Jesus plainly states: God has hidden the truths of the Prophesies from the wise and learned people.
Also proved by the lack of consensus on the Prophetic Word, among all the Bible experts.

If this truth upsets you, don't blame me for it!

DavidPT said:
There is tribulation and there is great tribulation. How can the following be describing the past 2000 years?

Right.
The theory that we are now in the tribulation as described in Revelation 6:12 to when Jesus Returns, is a false teaching.
The AMill error of rejecting the plainly stated truth of a Millennium, when Jesus will reign as King of the world, is a serious mistake and is contrary to the 7000 year Plan of God for mankind.

Ed Parenteau said:
So, if you don't believe the words of Jesus to his disciples, why would you believe anything else in the bible?

Why make such a comment? What is your agenda?
BTW, the Bible is usually Capitalized.

eclipsenow · Aug 5, 2021

keras said:
WE are the generation who will see it all!

1. Says the 45,891st futurist prediction to utter the same via equally as individual a timetable. (I'm of course joking about knowing the number of futurist predictions but it must be in the tens of thousands.) It's always about us, isn't it? Only a few futurists I've seen actually predict anything further away. There's just something narcissistic about end-times-tables that always make it about US!

2. Each of these desperately wanted to plead their case, convinced that they and they alone had 'unlocked' the secret to THAT DAY. Each pretty much got feverishly worked up about it. Each got as manic about their timetable as the guy from "Close Encounters of the 3rd kind" got about his mashed potatoes. Each had a Sarah Connor personal mission to share with the world their warning. Many wore sandwich boards and stool on the streets.

3. Seen in that light, doesn't the sheer quantity of utterly FAILED end-times-tables shake your confidence in your own? What will you do when 2026 doesn't have an AOD? (And the years leading up to it don't have your CME?)

But hey, don't worry. Because of the sheer number of futurists out there, one of you will probably guess the month. But it will be by sheer mathematical probability of all you guys guessing different months and years, not that anyone actually hit on some sort of timeline. There just isn't one! It would be distracting, and probably unmotivating, if we knew a certain date way off in the future. We could put off dealing with that problem, or that sin, or that person who needed to hear the gospel - if we knew the Lord wasn't returning for another 500 years - or 2000 years for those Christians that just MUST have figured out the Keras timetable! (Because if it's actually true and actually in the bible - why do you think only you have figured it out?)

keras · Aug 5, 2021

eclipsenow said:
3. Seen in that light, doesn't the sheer quantity of utterly FAILED end-times-tables shake your confidence in your own? What will you do when 2026 doesn't have an AOD? (And the years leading up to it don't have your CME?)

Sure, there were many who foolishly made wrong predictions. The reason for that is found in Daniel 12:4 & 9. They lived years before the end times.

I remain perfectly confident and I know the Appointed Day on which the Lord will arise and send fire to destroy the attackers of Israel and change the world, ready for the lead up to His glorious Return.

I doesn't take great Biblical qualifications to know what God has planned, in fact such learning is a hindrance to finding the truth.
And don't ask me when, as you would do what Jesus said will happen in: Matthew 7:6

eclipsenow · Aug 5, 2021

keras said:
Sure, there were many who foolishly made wrong predictions. The reason for that is found in Daniel 12:4 & 9. They lived years before the end times.

So now you are in effect saying that 1/4 of the bible has been no good for God's people for 2000 years? And I thought it was supposed to be able to 'thoroughly equip us' for 'every good work'. 2 Timothy 3:16-17

I remain perfectly confident and I know the Appointed Day on which the Lord will arise and send fire to destroy the attackers of Israel and change the world, ready for the lead up to His glorious Return.

No you don't - you keep saying the CME is the thief in the night.
Even though the Lord says HIS RETURN is the thief in the night.
Gee - you're not real good keeping your own timetable straight - let alone the bible.

I doesn't take great Biblical qualifications to know what God has planned, in fact such learning is a hindrance to finding the truth.
And don't ask me when, as you would do what Jesus said will happen in: Matthew 7:6

"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces."

1. Thanks for calling me a dog
2. Your super-spiritual superiority complex is showing again
3. Your attempt to scold me misses AGAIN because this verse is about the gospel - which I of course believe.

Matt 7:6
7:6 what is holy. A reference to the evidences of the kingdom, such as the healings and the exorcisms, which may explain why Jesus did no miracles for unbelievers. But “what is holy” would also include the preaching of the kingdom; believers should not continue to preach to people who have rejected the gospel with contempt and scorn (10:14; 15:14). The Book of Acts illustrates the principle in practice (Acts 13:44–51; 18:5, 6; 28:17–28).
Matt 7:6 - ESV Reformation Study Bible - Bible Gateway

keras · Aug 5, 2021

eclipsenow said:
So now you are in effect saying that 1/4 of the bible has been no good for God's people for 2000 years? And I thought it was supposed to be able to 'thoroughly equip us' for 'every good work'. 2 Timothy 3:16-17

Well it is true that Revelation wasn't all that relevant to anyone before now. It did serve as a reminder of what God does intend to happen.

Pretty much all of Bible Prophecy is like this; it's only when the fulfillment comes, that people will understand and know that God planned it. Just like Zechariah 9:9 was.

eclipsenow said:
No you don't - you keep saying the CME is the thief in the night.
Even though the Lord says HIS RETURN is the thief in the night.

I asked you to provide the verse which actually says Jesus will Return; that is: physically come and stand on the earth, in any of the Prophesies about His 'coming' as a thief. Unexpectedly and without warning.

But the 3 prophesies that actually do tell us of His Return, Zechariah 14:3, Matthew 24:30, Revelation 19:11, never say that.
In fact; anyone with a Bible can know the exact Day of His Return, as it will come 1260 days after the Temple is desecrated. 2 Thessalonians 2:4

Shock and Awe: the Lord’s Day of Wrath:
How bad will the Lord’s response to the attack of Psalm 83 be?

When the sun explodes out a massive CME…. Isaiah 30:26, Psalms 50:1-3
When the Arm of the Lord descends in anger…..Isaiah 30:30, Zephaniah 3:8
When He flashes lightning and fiery coals onto the earth. Deut. 32:22, Psalm 18:13-14
When the Day comes, burning like a furnace. Malachi 4:1, 2 Peter 3:7

Most people have no conception of the worldwide devastation that will be caused by the hit upon the earth by the Lord’s fiery Day of vengeance and wrath. Isaiah 29:6 What is prophesied will be so shocking, so terrifying, that it is impossible for us to really comprehend and only when it happens, will we realize the full extent of the damage done to the world and our modern infrastructure.

There has never been a comparable natural disaster in recorded history. The nearest to it may be the continuous winters of 1883-87, caused by the ash clouds from Krakatoa, or some recent tsunamis. Only Noah’s flood really compares, but fortunately this time we have God’s promise to never again destroy man and animals so extensively. Genesis 9:16 Many people will die, Jeremiah 25:33, Isaiah 34:3, but most will survive.

As the survivors come out from under whatever shelter they have found, Isaiah 2:20-21, Revelation 6:15, there will be little, if any light for weeks or months. Amos 5:20, Zephaniah 1:15 Most buildings will be destroyed by earthquake and fire, Isaiah 24:18, Zephaniah 3:8 and huge tsunamis will wipe out all coastal cities and towns. Jeremiah 51:42, Amos 9:6

Normal mains electricity supply will not be restored for years. Only small generators will be able to supply power and these will soon run out of fuel, as will all motor transport. Line telephone systems and radio communication may be set up fairly quickly, but mobile phones and internet may never be re-established.

The world will slowly recover and in order to regain control and normal services, a 10 region One World Government will be organized. Daniel 7:23-24
However, those who have maintained their faith and trust in the Creator God during this time of testing have the promises of His redemption and their gathering into all of the Holy Land. Deuteronomy 30:3, Isaiah 35, Psalms 107, Zechariah 10:8, Hosea 11:10-11, Ezekiel 11:17, Ezekiel 36:8, Isaiah 49:8-23, Jeremiah 23:3-4, Psalms 69:35-36, Colossians 1:11-12, Revelation 7:9-14

eclipsenow · Aug 5, 2021

keras said:
I asked you to provide the verse which actually says Jesus will Return; that is: physically come and stand on the earth

This is personal, not astronomical. These verses tell us this is Jesus returning, taking the saved, leaving the lost, judging the good servant and casting out the bad servant.

Question - you have admitted that only you and a handful of Christians that read your website are preparing for this. (Let alone the billions of unbelievers.) Doesn't that mean the majority of Christians will be incinerated in the CME?

How on earth does that make any sense in the light of Matthew 24? The irony is you're now reading the symbolic bits of the OT literally, and ignoring a more literal statement by Jesus and calling it symbolic of a CME. Here's my problem with Matt 24 as a symbol for the CME. How is Jesus taking his people? They're not meant to be "taken" in your CME fantasy - but in underground bunkers. How is he rewarding his good servant? Cutting the bad servant to pieces and assigning him a place with the hypocrites? Basically, you're ignoring these verses - they may as well not be in the bible. You only want to read what you want to read.

Matthew 24:36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.
42 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.
45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Douggg · Aug 6, 2021

@eclipsenow

We are the parable of the fig tree generation. Things globally can change rapidly in the matter of a couple of months, like the fall of the soviet union. 70 years minus 7 for the 70th week of Daniel is 2030, from 1967.

So something happening before 2026 is not out of the realm of possibility. Although I do disagree with Keras's cme interpretation and scenario.

Revelation 22:10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.

11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

keras · Aug 6, 2021

eclipsenow said:
This is personal, not astronomical. These verses tell us this is Jesus returning, taking the saved, leaving the lost, judging the good servant and casting out the bad servant.

Fail.
There is no scripture that says Jesus Returns on the Day of His vengeance and fiery wrath. The Sixth Seal just commences all the prophesied end time events.

eclipsenow said:
Doesn't that mean the majority of Christians will be incinerated in the CME?

Again you demonstrate you ignorance of what the Prophesies tell us.
Try reading Isaiah 43:2, Isaiah 41:13, Zechariah 9:15-16, Psalms 31:23-24, 1 Corinthians 10:13, 2 Peter 2:9, +
Also we are told to Call upon the Name of the Lord and you will be saved. Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21

eclipsenow said:
Here's my problem with Matt 24 as a symbol for the CME. How is Jesus taking his people?

The Lord's people, His faithful Christians, are not 'taken' anywhere. They must pass thru all that must happen. It will be our test of faith. 1 Peter 4:12
The ones 'taken', in Matthew 24:41-42, are the ungodly people, who are killed by the fiery wrath of the Lord. Psalms 97:3-5, Malachi 4:3, Jeremiah 9:22

That the Lord will use a Coronal Mass Ejection, a massive explosion of the suns surface on His terrible Day of vengeance and wrath, is made clear by Isaiah 30:25-30, Psalms 50:1-3, Malachi 4:1, +
It is the only thing that can and will literally fulfil all of the 100 + Prophesies about that literal Day.

Douggg · Aug 6, 2021

@keras in your view, when did the parable of the fig tree generation begin?

keras · Aug 6, 2021

Douggg said:
@keras in your view, when did the parable of the fig tree generation begin?

On the 14th May 1948.
Note well: Judah did not and never will, bear 'fruit'.

I did, like many think that three score and ten years would see the end times events commence. But Psalms 90:10 says; if our strength holds, then eighty years is possible.
So the Sixth Seal must happen before 14th May 2028. I believe some years sooner than that.

keras · Aug 6, 2021

eclipsenow said:
the complete and utter failure to respect theological peer-review? The lack of respect for Jesus HIMSELF saying HIS RETURN will be like a thief in the night?

You have still not provided any scripture that uses the word 'return' in the context of 'coming as a thief'.

My 'peer reviewer' is the Lord.
I do respect genuine scholars, they have done the hard yards. But I say again; it is impossible for them to interpret and understand Bible Prophecy.
Matthew 11:25

keras · Aug 6, 2021

eclipsenow said:
so what you've done is spiritualise the CME into not so much an astronomical event anyway, but a theological event where all Christians are somehow protected by magical force fields?

Who was it that protected the 3 men in the furnace? Daniel 3:19-27

The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations

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