Discussion 'End Times Revival'

lismore · Feb 27, 2021

Hello!

I have heard the phrase 'End Times Revival' many times. If you believe in this idea please reply! I have always been interested in all things End Times.

Is there scripture that points to an End times Revival?
What would it be like?
When will it happen? Are we close?
Does it tie into the pre-Trib or post-Trib positions?
What is your definition of 'Revival' anyway?

God Bless

Aussie Pete · Feb 27, 2021

lismore said:
Hello!

I have heard the phrase 'End Times Revival' many times. If you believe in this idea please reply! I have always been interested in all things End Times.

Is there scripture that points to an End times Revival?
What would it be like?
When will it happen? Are we close?
Does it tie into the pre-Trib or post-Trib positions?
What is your definition of 'Revival' anyway?

God Bless

Revival historically has meant a time when people were coming to Christ in great numbers over a short period of time. Revival is usually preceded by:

The fervent prayers of the saints
Unity among believers
One or two inspired individuals who preach without fear and with great power.

You might like to look up John Wesley and Evan Roberts who were instrumental in revivals in England and Wales.

I hear a lot about "Last Days revival". When I look at the state of Christianity right now, I'd say there is no hope. When I look at what Jesus said, I'm more hopeful. He is building His church.He cannot fail.

lismore · Feb 28, 2021

Hello Pete,

Thanks for your reply and your definition of revival.
I have looked into several 'Revivals' in Scottish History especially the Cambuslang Revival (1742), The Lewis Revival (1949-1952), which involved Donald Trump's Great-Auntie and a couple of others.

Why I ask for a definition is that different people seem to have different definitions of what it is. The bible doesn't directly mention the term 'revival' or define what it means.

In light of Colossians 1:6 could it be when the church finally actually preaches the gospel? For example as in Cambuslang in 1742.

On the other hand 'Lakeland Revival' was promoted on this forum some years ago, let by a speaker called Todd Bentley. It's focus was not on the gospel or the word, more on Bentley's claimed experiences and crowd excitement.

God Bless

mourningdove~ · Feb 28, 2021

lismore said:
Why I ask for a definition is that different people seem to have different definitions of what it is. The bible doesn't directly mention the term 'revival' or define what it means.

Hi lismore.
Yes, different people here seem to have different definitions of what is revival, just as they have differing definitions and beliefs on many other things also.

That is something I have recently come to grasp, that while this forum has its purposes, very often discussions on things here become heated debates ... because persons visiting this forum tend to come from a wide variety of 'church' backgrounds and belief systems, and so it does not seem that many are in agreement on many things.

That is why I have recently opened Fellowship threads, hoping to attract like-minded members to the discussion, rather than those that want to debate. But those threads of mine do not seem to get so much interaction, so I suppose it is 'debate' that many persons that come here prefer. lol

It is an interesting thread topic ... revival.
I'm not up for the debate, but will be reading and following along to see what folks have to say, and to perhaps learn some things, too!

God bless.

spiritfilledjm · Mar 1, 2021

Revival is literally supposed to be what Pete said, however, in Charismatic/Pentecostal traditions it is also meant to include, or solely be, an outpouring of the sign gifts of the Holy Spirit on a specific church or area.

Ceallaigh · Mar 1, 2021

There's always a percentage of Christians who have believed they are in the end times at present. I remember when according to many we were in the end times back in the 70s. So really for many a revival, or anything else that takes place, is an end times event.

lismore · Mar 1, 2021

MMXX said:
There's always a percentage of Christians who have believed they are in the end times at present.

Hello MMXX. Given what Peter said at Pentecost I would think all Christians believe we're in the End Times (Acts 2:17)

lismore · Jul 4, 2021

Thought you might find this interesting- what comes next- 'revival' or rapture?

Gregory Thompson · Jul 4, 2021

lismore said:
Hello!

I have heard the phrase 'End Times Revival' many times. If you believe in this idea please reply! I have always been interested in all things End Times.

Is there scripture that points to an End times Revival?
What would it be like?
When will it happen? Are we close?
Does it tie into the pre-Trib or post-Trib positions?
What is your definition of 'Revival' anyway?

God Bless

Revival, means someone is "vived" in the first place.

Requesting revival when a vast number of church attenders have not been born again by the Holy Spirit yet, is praying the wrong prayer.

The scriptures that speak of the end times tends to be fairly negative talking about how far from faith people are in their hearts and conduct.

People want to believe it, because they are not willing to admit they are not saved, and in the depths of their heart would like to be saved.

lismore · Jul 4, 2021

Michael Collum said:
The scriptures that speak of the end times tends to be fairly negative talking about how far from faith people are in their hearts and conduct.

2 Timothy 3:1 'In the Last Days terrible times will come'

I have oftimes been sad at Pentecostal meetings hearing all the elusive prophecies about revivals and (material) blessings, the people seem to be expecting a party not the Last Days.

God Bless

ARBITER01 · Jul 4, 2021

This is a good thread!

I personally think that people's ideas of what a revival is and should be are mixed up currently.

Revivals in the historical sense of what one is has always been a single person that GOD sent out in power in a sort of evangelistic office. But currently, there are people who have ideas that GOD is going to perform some sort of Acts 2 unleashing of His Spirit upon a whole area, which historically has never happened since Acts 2.

Gregory Thompson · Jul 4, 2021

lismore said:
2 Timothy 3:1 'In the Last Days terrible times will come'

I have oftimes been sad at Pentecostal meetings hearing all the elusive prophecies about revivals and blessings, the people seem to be expecting a party not the Last Days.

God Bless

Reminds me of

Amos 5
18Woe to you who long for the Day of the LORD! What will the Day of the LORD be for you? It will be darkness and not light. 19It will be like a man who flees from a lion, only to encounter a bear, or who enters his house and rests his hand against the wall, only to be bitten by a snake. 20Will not the Day of the LORD be darkness and not light, even gloom with no brightness in it?

Even the common attitude that "it will be an awesome day" is in place, so maybe it's about time.

rhomphaeam · Jul 14, 2021

lismore said:
Hello!

I have heard the phrase 'End Times Revival' many times. If you believe in this idea please reply! I have always been interested in all things End Times.

Is there scripture that points to an End times Revival?
What would it be like?
When will it happen? Are we close?
Does it tie into the pre-Trib or post-Trib positions?
What is your definition of 'Revival' anyway?

God Bless

The below video will give you a sense of what true revival looks like.

Gregory Thompson · Jul 22, 2021

lismore said:
Hello!

I have heard the phrase 'End Times Revival' many times. If you believe in this idea please reply! I have always been interested in all things End Times.

Is there scripture that points to an End times Revival?
What would it be like?
When will it happen? Are we close?
Does it tie into the pre-Trib or post-Trib positions?
What is your definition of 'Revival' anyway?

God Bless

Prophecies that talk about an end time revival also talk about things that didn't end up happening.

So perhaps the conversation is going like this.

Person praying to God: When will there be a revival?
God: When Trump has a second consecutive term.

And from there it gets horribly misinterpreted.

It wouldn't be the first time God's sarcasm was lost on us.

Pioneer3mm · Jul 23, 2021

Revival/Awakening can be controversial..
- & often..despised.
Because it breaks..the existing pattern/establishment.
Examples:
- The Great Awakening
- Azusa Revival
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Sometimes 'Revivals/Awakening' bring..
- 'End Times' vision.
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I am working on book project.
- One part of the book is on 'Spiritual Awakening/Revivals' in Christian history.

Gregory Thompson · Jul 23, 2021

Pioneer3mm said:
Revival/Awakening can be controversial..
- & often..despised.
Because it breaks..the existing pattern/establishment.
Examples:
- The Great Awakening
- Azusa Revival
---
Sometimes 'Revivals/Awakening' bring..
- 'End Times' vision.
---
I am working on book project.
- One part of the book is on 'Spiritual Awakening/Revivals' in Christian history.

I noticed after the awakenings in the 1800s, post Azusa street revivals were more of a psychological phenomenon affecting the individual, instead of a wide area effect.

Personally, if something mimics the presence of God, but is really magical in attribute - I must resist it.

spiritfilledjm · Jul 23, 2021

Michael Collum said:
I noticed after the awakenings in the 1800s, post Azusa street revivals were more of a psychological phenomenon affecting the individual, instead of a wide area effect.

Personally, if something mimics the presence of God, but is really magical in attribute - I must resist it.

4 million are reported to have attended the Brownsville revival and 2.5 million are estimated to have attended the Toronto Airport revival...

Pioneer3mm · Jul 24, 2021

Michael Collum said:
I noticed after the awakenings in the 1800s, post Azusa street revivals were more of a psychological phenomenon affecting the individual, instead of a wide area effect.

Personally, if something mimics the presence of God, but is really magical in attribute - I must resist it.

The issue/question is..
- Meaning/definition of the 'Revival'.
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The word 'Revival' comes from Latin word 'revivere' ..meaning to live, to reawaken or a renewal of fervor.
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" Revival is an outpouring of the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of God descending, a spiritual awakening.."
- "God is ultimately glorified, Jesus is exalted.."
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Revivals can have impact on the 'people groups & nations'.
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Interesting book to read..on Revival.
'Global Revival, Worldwide Outpouring, Forty Three Visitations of the Holy Spirit, the Great Commission'
Revivals in Asia, Africa, Europe, North and South America, Australia and Oceania.
Mathew backholer
- Kindle e book.

lismore · Jul 24, 2021

Michael Collum said:
Prophecies that talk about an end time revival also talk about things that didn't end up happening.

I look on 2 Timothy chapters three and four as being very relevant for our day, there are many prophetic gems in there, for example:

2 Timothy 3:1 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days........12 In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, 13 while evildoers and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived...........16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.

2 Timothy 4: 3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear...................8 Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day—and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for his appearing.

It seems to be cutting against the grain of what many Charismatics are prophesying and teaching about the last days- revival, dominion of the church, wealth transfer.

In both chapters false teaching in the church is related to the End Times. Chapter 4 says there will be a 'Great Number' of false teachers teaching whatever people want to hear. Isn't that where we are now?

The bible highlights terrible times in the Last Days, persecution for the true believer, infestations of deceivers and false teachers in the church. The anti-dote is to be found in the scriptures, getting into the word of God. Applying the test of the Berean will unmask a false prophet every time.

Jesus said in Luke 6 that false prophets in the Last Days will be popular. Popularity rather than truth seems to be the criteria the Church uses to test teachings and prophecies in our day. How can 'revival' come without truth?

The good news is that with so many biblical prophecies falling into place the Lord is coming soon. Maranatha!

God Bless

Gregory Thompson · Jul 26, 2021

spiritfilledjm said:
4 million are reported to have attended the Brownsville revival and 2.5 million are estimated to have attended the Toronto Airport revival...

But what has essentially changed as a result?

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