I cannot fathom being apathetic to history

Metaethicist said:

And a problem with protestantism is that there is no clear distinction or means of discernment between what's legit and what's a cult.

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Well, it's not up to any bunch of churches to come together and agree upon a definition of "cult;" but there are a number of academics and others who have studied and written on the subject of religious cults, and there is general agreement that a cult (theologically speaking) is identified as a body that rejects at least one of several specific, foundational, beliefs that are common to all the historic churches, including Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant ones.

But Pastor Anderson is an embarrassment to any well-informed Protestant, regardless of denomination. He voiced so many factual errors in just the few minutes I watched that video, I had to give it up. Notice how the comments that are posted on that site go.

Metaethicist said:

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But year's a flaw right there. Protestantism requires people to be 'well informed' to a degree that is outside the capacities of the average masses... leaving them open to any kind of cultish thing.

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I'd like to discuss that theory with you if it were possible. But here in the EO forum, I cannot enter into a debate about the matter. And to any other reader, I apologize if I've overstayed my visit.

Albion said:

I'd like to discuss that theory with you if it were possible. But here in the EO forum, I cannot enter into a debate about the matter.

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St. Justin's could use a new thread every now and then...

Albion said:

And to any other reader, I apologize if I've overstayed my visit.

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Not at all. Your cordiality and perspective is always appreciated. You're welcome here anytime!

Albion said:

And to any other reader, I apologize if I've overstayed my visit.

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you haven't

Chesterton said:

Years ago I came across a website for a pagan group that wants to abolish Christianity in Greece and return to the old gods. I thought it might be a joke, but then I read where they've actually engaged in some terrorist acts against the government. I can't remember their name. Is this who you're talking about?

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I haven't heard of terrorist attacks but there's more than one group. Most started by people born outside of Greece. They are complete imbeciles with a real bad understanding of Greek history and customs. For example one group holds a meat eating protest on Good Friday (strict fast day). It's funny because in two days Greeks roast entire lambs on spits and every other kind of barbequed meat. They think eating a souvlaki stick is some kind of rebellious act when butcher shops are already packed as the christians prepare for the week long celebration starting two days later.

buzuxi02 said:

I haven't heard of terrorist attacks but there's more than one group. Most started by people born outside of Greece. They are complete imbeciles with a real bad understanding of Greek history and customs. For example one group holds a meat eating protest on Good Friday (strict fast day). It's funny because in two days Greeks roast entire lambs on spits and every other kind of barbequed meat. They think eating a souvlaki stick is some kind of rebellious act when butcher shops are already packed as the christians prepare for the week long celebration starting two days later.

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I agree with the imbecility of it. If you're an orthodox Christian eating meat on Good Friday, now that's a serious protest. But if you're a pagan...that's just eating.

The sad part about this video is that people like him (he ain't the only one out there, brother!) are energetic evangelists for their errors and they dupe people like me. I bought into that ***censored*** for years because it was under the ministry of a man like him that I was brought out of a life of degradation which was killing me.

Once you have someone like that "save" you from dying, it is real easy to think that they are 100% correct. After all, WHERE were the Roman Catholics and the Eastern Orthodox?? I never got THEM knocking at my doors or talking with me at dinner about my need for Christ when I was killing myself with drugs and sinful living.

This is the absolute DANGER of these people. They not only lead people into error, but insulate them against the truth. My Chick comics and my preacher had me fully vaccinated against anything that smacked of liturgy or baptistic "worship." And this had a particularly bad effect on my family. My children now want NOTHING to do with Christ because they were fed a Sunday diet of this kind of rot - condemnation, hatred, and "you're a wretched sinner and God is mad at you." That doesn't wash well with kids. Who would want that kind of Jesus?

Light of the East said:

Who would want that kind of Jesus?

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many people do. that's why we don't look for the Christ we want, but we look for Him as He is.

ArmyMatt said:

many people do. that's why we don't look for the Christ we want, but we look for Him as He is.

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My bad. You are right that many people do, but I think that most children tend to run from abusive situations and abusive religions.

Light of the East said:

My bad. You are right that many people do, but I think that most children tend to run from abusive situations and abusive religions.

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sure, but I think oftentimes it's because they were abused by what a group wanted God to be, rather than accepting Him as He is.

Andy Pierce said:

What parts of the Bible does Anderson not accept?

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23 “If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”

53Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you.

16 “He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.

22Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off.

15Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle.

There are numerous others.

Andy Pierce said:

I think Galatians 5:13 and Matthew 24:13 are big ones. Anderson says that it wouldn't matter if he committed any sin. The only sins that can keep someone from Heaven are homosexuality and apostatizing.

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That's merely his own view on what is evil. I've heard it before. A Christian can commit adultery as many as they want but homosexuality is off limits. For some reason.