Phil 2:6 - Co-Equal - Oneness

BrotherJJ said:

If it helps you, I'll ascribe to Godhead.

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BrotherJJ said:

Phil 2:
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
(MY NOTE: Jesus Christ preexisted/began in the same Form/substance/essence as God the Father)

Taking 1 verse context & building a doctrine, invariably leads to scriptural misinterpretations.

The Word/Son/Jesus preexisted of the same Form/substance/essence,

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we humans are all of the same Form/substance/essence, substance. However, we're all not the same in authority/rank, job, military etc.

Hebrews 12:29 our God is a consuming fire. (Also see Ex 3:2, Deut 9:3)

Isaiah 6:2 Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.
(MY NOTE: Seraphim angels: primary meaning is the burning ones. Each Seraphims had 6 wings, 2 wings covered their face, 2 covered their feet & 2 to fly. The Shekinah Glory of the Lord is so great. Even fiery angelic beings must cover themselves in God's presents. God's true presents would vaporize us humans in a moment.

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
(MY NOTE: Only the Son/Jesus has ever seen God the Father)

John 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.
(MY NOTE: The only man that has seen God the Father is Jesus who existed with the Father.

God the Son/Jesus the Christ, pre-existed prior the his incarnation & is our Genesis 1, Creator/God: Jn 1:3 & 10, Col 1:16 & 17, 1 Cor 8:6, Eph 3:9

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
(NOTE: God the Son/Redeemer/Christ/Jesus, the Genesis 1 creator of our universe, preexisted in the presents of God the Father. The Word/Jesus (Rev 13:19) was with God (The Father) and was/is also God)

Jn 1:1 states the Word/Jesus is God Vs 14 states He/God the Son/Word, became flesh & lived/walked among us. 1 Tim 3:16 states: God/Jesus was manifest in the flesh, Matt 1:23: Behold, a virgin shall be with child you shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. The notion that He wasn't always 100% God in the flesh is contrary to scripture.

Jn:3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
(NOTE: God the Father gave/sent his Son)

Jn 6:38 I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
(NOTE: God the Son/Jesus say's He; came down from heaven to do the will of him/the Father, that sent Him. Its at creation, God the Son, begins His mission/work of reconciliation/salvation.)

Jn 16:28 Jesus said, I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father
(NOTE: The SON of God/Jesus say's, He came forth from the Father (did he leave himself?) He will return to the Father. Although, The Son is ONE WITH, he's NOT the Father)

Jn 17:5 O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
(NOTE: Before the world began, the Son, enjoyed glory "WITH" the Father. "NOT AS" the Father)

Scripture states 4 TIMES: "God the Father" said to "God the Son" Sit at my right hand. The Risen/Glorified Son doesn't sit down next to Himself.

Acts 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
(NOTE: The LORD isn't talking to HIMSELF! Also see Ps 110:1, Matt 22;44, Lk 20:43)

Matt 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
(MY NOTE: Did God the Son HIDE this info from Himself?)

Jn 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
(NOTE: Jesus said: I came from the Father, I leave this world & return to the Father. Jesus ISN'T returning to Himself)

Heb 10:12 (C) after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
(NOTE: This isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Jesus & He, DOESN'T sit down next to Himself)

Rev 5:7 And he (Vs 5, the Loin of the tribe of Juda. Vs 6, the Lamb) came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
(NOTE: This is the risen/glorified Lamb/Jesus. He DOESN'T take the book/scroll out of His own hand)

Rom 8:17 We're children, "heirs also", "heirs of God & fellow heirs with Christ
(NOTE: Believers are fellow heirs of God the Father, with/thru Christ. Christ ISN'T an heir of/to himself?)

Heb 1:2 in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, thru whom also He made the world
(NOTE: God the Father APPOINTED God the Son HEIR of ALL things within our realm. Even though they are of the same Godly substance/firey brilliance. It all belonged to the Father, they didn't/don't have a CO-EQUAL share's in all things)

God the Father sends God the Son:
Jn 3:16, 5:23, 30, 36 & 37, 6:38 & 39, 6:57, 8:42, 10;36, 12:49. Can anyone provide a scripture, where anyone sends the Father anywhere?

God the Father gives to God the Son: Jn 3:35, 5:22 & 26, 6:37&39, 10:29, 13:3 16:28. Can anyone provide a scripture, where anyone gives anything to the Father?

If the Father & Son are the same person, what's the point in any of the following verses? Everyone of these verses were written POST RESURRECTION! Gal 1:1 & 3, Eph 6:23, Php 2:11, 1 Th 1:1, 2 Ti 1:2, Tit 1:4, 1 Pe 1:2, 2 Pe 1:17, 2 Jn 1:3, Jud 1:1 Jude

Jn 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
(MY NOTE: Jesus/God the Son say's, I ascent to My Father & My God)

Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
(MY NOTE: Jesus/God the Son say's, I will write the name of My God & I will write MY Name on believers/overcomers. He'll write His Gods & His name = 2 persons)

1 Cor 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
(MY NOTE: Man is Head/has authority over the woman, Christ is Head/has authority over the man & God the Father is Head/has authority over God the Son)

Pay special attention vs 28!

1 Cor 15:
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

When all is complete/fulfilled the Son will what? SUBJECT, all things INCLUDING Himself, unto His Father, whom gave it all to him.

Within our universe, Christ, will FOREVER remain King of Kings & Lord of Lords. Why? Because the Father, rewarded his faithful/obedient redemptive works. And has given all things within our universe.

Spiritual oneness:

Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

The Hebrew word Echad translates One. However, echad/one, means UNITY not SINGULARITY.

Another example of echad: Gen 2:24 echad speaks about the husband & wife being ONE flesh. Husband & wife aren't a singular being. They are in unity with each other.

There is another Hebrew word, YACHID, this word means ABSOLUTE SINGULARITY. Yachid is never used as a reference to God.

Jn 10:30 I and my Father are one.
(NOTE: The Father & Son are connected/Spiritually & therefore are ONE Spiritually)

Jn 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
(NOTE: I am in ME & ME is in I? NO! The Father is IN Me & I am IN the Father. TWO persons [SPIRITUALLY CONNECTED] not ONE!)

Jn 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
(NOTE: Jesus say's; I'm in the Father & the Father's in me. Two persons [connected by God the Holy Spirit] Spiritual Oneness!)

Jn 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
(NOTE: Jesus say's; I'm in the Father & the Father's in me. Two persons [connected by God the Holy Spirit] Spiritual Oneness!)

Jn 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
(NOTE: Jesus say's; I'm in MY Father, you believers are IN Me & I'm IN you believer's. THREE persons [connected by God the Holy Spirit] = Spiritual Oneness!)

Jn 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
(NOTE: Jesus referencing Vs 20 say's, Father, Son & believer. THREE persons [connected by God the Holy Spirit] = Spiritual Oneness!)

Rom 12:5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.
(NOTE: Does one body = one person? NO! The millions/billions etc = ONE SPIRITUAL BODY)

Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body.
(NOTE: Christ is the head of the church: He is the savior of a large/numerous ""SPIRITUAL BODY OF ONE"")

I understand many may disagree with my view. No harm, no foul, that’s your privilege.

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SongOnTheWind said:

What's the point in starting a discussion if no one is allowed to discuss? No one is infallible so it's useless to refuse questions or clarification.

What a shame, it's actually a super deep, profound, detective-candy-like subject. I long to know not just more ABOUT God, but more OF God. His Word says we have to be of the mind of Christ, and I don't think that just means morally. We are to have an in-depth understanding, and a lot of that process is asking questions. John 17v3 tells us that knowing God is eternal life.

If anyone wants to pick this up where the OP left off, please do. Also, I'd love to see a response to 2BeholdHisGlory's scripture references, all of which I agree with in the context of this discussion. There are some really good jumping off points there too.

Thoughts?

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Clare73 said:

The humanity of Jesus did not pre-exist his conception in the womb of Mary.
The divinity of the Son was the same form of God as both the Father and the Son, which have always existed, without beginning.

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2BeholdHisGlory said:

This is one of those topics where scripture seems to matter little because even if you post them (they are typically not adressed) but rather the person becomes the target. Could be why its not brought up so much to examine because oftentimes becomes a reason to examine the person and not the scriptures? Its actually not as bad as it used to be from many years back a I have witnessed it so its gotten much better but it stil happens.

Edit:typo

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SongOnTheWind said:

Well, let's hope we can proceed in a more sensible manner. We know in part, but we can still discuss. Looking forward to seeing the discussion unfold

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SongOnTheWind said:

Agreed. The Son is begotten, not made.

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2BeholdHisGlory said:

You can probably use both words made and begotten without it being heretical, just use them as written, for example
Gal 4:4...God sent forth his Son, made of a woman
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh
Acts 13:33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children,
in that he hath raised up Jesus again;
as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.
There are others but I dont know why its written that way that one must be acknowledged without use of the other as it pertains to Christ.

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Der Alte said:

In the KJV John 1:14 is not translated correctly.

NIV John 1:14
14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.​

The Greek word εγενετο incorrectly translated "was made" in the KJV is aorist, middle deponent, indicative, third person singular. The middle deponent is translated as active. In the active voice the subject, in this case the Logos, performs the action. The logos acting on Himself became flesh.
Some folks will cherry pick versions to find one that supports their denominational assumptions/presuppositional.

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BrotherJJ said:

Phil 2:
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
(MY NOTE: Jesus Christ preexisted/began in the same Form/substance/essence as God the Father)

Taking 1 verse context & building a doctrine, invariably leads to scriptural misinterpretations.

The Word/Son/Jesus preexisted of the same Form/substance/essence, we humans are all of the same Form/substance/essence. However, we're all not the same in authority/rank, job, military etc.

Hebrews 12:29 our God is a consuming fire. (Also see Ex 3:2, Deut 9:3)

Isaiah 6:2 Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.
(MY NOTE: Seraphim angels: primary meaning is the burning ones. Each Seraphims had 6 wings, 2 wings covered their face, 2 covered their feet & 2 to fly. The Shekinah Glory of the Lord is so great. Even fiery angelic beings must cover themselves in God's presents. God's true presents would vaporize us humans in a moment.

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
(MY NOTE: Only the Son/Jesus has ever seen God the Father)

John 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.
(MY NOTE: The only man that has seen God the Father is Jesus who existed with the Father.

God the Son/Jesus the Christ, pre-existed prior the his incarnation & is our Genesis 1, Creator/God: Jn 1:3 & 10, Col 1:16 & 17, 1 Cor 8:6, Eph 3:9

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
(NOTE: God the Son/Redeemer/Christ/Jesus, the Genesis 1 creator of our universe, preexisted in the presents of God the Father. The Word/Jesus (Rev 13:19) was with God (The Father) and was/is also God)

Jn 1:1 states the Word/Jesus is God Vs 14 states He/God the Son/Word, became flesh & lived/walked among us. 1 Tim 3:16 states: God/Jesus was manifest in the flesh, Matt 1:23: Behold, a virgin shall be with child you shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. The notion that He wasn't always 100% God in the flesh is contrary to scripture.

Jn:3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
(NOTE: God the Father gave/sent his Son)

Jn 6:38 I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
(NOTE: God the Son/Jesus say's He; came down from heaven to do the will of him/the Father, that sent Him. Its at creation, God the Son, begins His mission/work of reconciliation/salvation.)

Jn 16:28 Jesus said, I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father
(NOTE: The SON of God/Jesus say's, He came forth from the Father (did he leave himself?) He will return to the Father. Although, The Son is ONE WITH, he's NOT the Father)

Jn 17:5 O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
(NOTE: Before the world began, the Son, enjoyed glory "WITH" the Father. "NOT AS" the Father)

Scripture states 4 TIMES: "God the Father" said to "God the Son" Sit at my right hand. The Risen/Glorified Son doesn't sit down next to Himself.

Acts 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
(NOTE: The LORD isn't talking to HIMSELF! Also see Ps 110:1, Matt 22;44, Lk 20:43)

Matt 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
(MY NOTE: Did God the Son HIDE this info from Himself?)

Jn 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
(NOTE: Jesus said: I came from the Father, I leave this world & return to the Father. Jesus ISN'T returning to Himself)

Heb 10:12 (C) after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
(NOTE: This isn't the earthly Jesus. This is the risen/glorified Jesus & He, DOESN'T sit down next to Himself)

Rev 5:7 And he (Vs 5, the Loin of the tribe of Juda. Vs 6, the Lamb) came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
(NOTE: This is the risen/glorified Lamb/Jesus. He DOESN'T take the book/scroll out of His own hand)

Rom 8:17 We're children, "heirs also", "heirs of God & fellow heirs with Christ
(NOTE: Believers are fellow heirs of God the Father, with/thru Christ. Christ ISN'T an heir of/to himself?)

Heb 1:2 in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, thru whom also He made the world
(NOTE: God the Father APPOINTED God the Son HEIR of ALL things within our realm. Even though they are of the same Godly substance/firey brilliance. It all belonged to the Father, they didn't/don't have a CO-EQUAL share's in all things)

God the Father sends God the Son:
Jn 3:16, 5:23, 30, 36 & 37, 6:38 & 39, 6:57, 8:42, 10;36, 12:49. Can anyone provide a scripture, where anyone sends the Father anywhere?

God the Father gives to God the Son: Jn 3:35, 5:22 & 26, 6:37&39, 10:29, 13:3 16:28. Can anyone provide a scripture, where anyone gives anything to the Father?

If the Father & Son are the same person, what's the point in any of the following verses? Everyone of these verses were written POST RESURRECTION! Gal 1:1 & 3, Eph 6:23, Php 2:11, 1 Th 1:1, 2 Ti 1:2, Tit 1:4, 1 Pe 1:2, 2 Pe 1:17, 2 Jn 1:3, Jud 1:1 Jude

Jn 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
(MY NOTE: Jesus/God the Son say's, I ascent to My Father & My God)

Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
(MY NOTE: Jesus/God the Son say's, I will write the name of My God & I will write MY Name on believers/overcomers. He'll write His Gods & His name = 2 persons)

1 Cor 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
(MY NOTE: Man is Head/has authority over the woman, Christ is Head/has authority over the man & God the Father is Head/has authority over God the Son)

Pay special attention vs 28!

1 Cor 15:
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

When all is complete/fulfilled the Son will what? SUBJECT, all things INCLUDING Himself, unto His Father, whom gave it all to him.

Within our universe, Christ, will FOREVER remain King of Kings & Lord of Lords. Why? Because the Father, rewarded his faithful/obedient redemptive works. And has given all things within our universe.

Spiritual oneness:

Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

The Hebrew word Echad translates One. However, echad/one, means UNITY not SINGULARITY.

Another example of echad: Gen 2:24 echad speaks about the husband & wife being ONE flesh. Husband & wife aren't a singular being. They are in unity with each other.

There is another Hebrew word, YACHID, this word means ABSOLUTE SINGULARITY. Yachid is never used as a reference to God.

Jn 10:30 I and my Father are one.
(NOTE: The Father & Son are connected/Spiritually & therefore are ONE Spiritually)

Jn 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
(NOTE: I am in ME & ME is in I? NO! The Father is IN Me & I am IN the Father. TWO persons [SPIRITUALLY CONNECTED] not ONE!)

Jn 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
(NOTE: Jesus say's; I'm in the Father & the Father's in me. Two persons [connected by God the Holy Spirit] Spiritual Oneness!)

Jn 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
(NOTE: Jesus say's; I'm in the Father & the Father's in me. Two persons [connected by God the Holy Spirit] Spiritual Oneness!)

Jn 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
(NOTE: Jesus say's; I'm in MY Father, you believers are IN Me & I'm IN you believer's. THREE persons [connected by God the Holy Spirit] = Spiritual Oneness!)

Jn 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
(NOTE: Jesus referencing Vs 20 say's, Father, Son & believer. THREE persons [connected by God the Holy Spirit] = Spiritual Oneness!)

Rom 12:5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.
(NOTE: Does one body = one person? NO! The millions/billions etc = ONE SPIRITUAL BODY)

Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body.
(NOTE: Christ is the head of the church: He is the savior of a large/numerous ""SPIRITUAL BODY OF ONE"")

I understand many may disagree with my view. No harm, no foul, that’s your privilege.

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BrotherJJ said:

MY NOTE: Jesus Christ preexisted/began in the same Form/substance/essence as God the Father)

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BrotherJJ said:

1st: Pre-existed isn't making the claim, Jesus was created. See (MY NOTE) at the bottom of post #17. My statement is: He's from everlasting, HAS NO BEGINING.

Next:
Find these and other scripture cited in the OP & posts # 34 & 35 that I believe teach the Father has authority.

1 Cor 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
(MY NOTE: Man is Head/has authority over the woman, Christ is Head/has authority over the man & God the Father is Head/has authority over God the Son)

Pay special attention vs 28!

1 Cor 15:
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
(MY NOYE: When all is complete/fulfilled the Son will what? SUBJECT, all things INCLUDING Himself, unto His Father, whom gave it all to him.)

Rom 8:17 We're children, "heirs also", "heirs of God & fellow heirs with Christ
(NOTE: Believers are fellow heirs of God the Father, with/thru Christ. If Christ is an HEIR, doesn't the Father have authority/out rank the Son?)

Heb 1:2 in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, thru whom also He made the world
(NOTE: God the Father APPOINTED God the Son HEIR of ALL things within our realm. QUESTION; Equal? Or does the Father have authority/out rank in order to APPOINT the Son?)

Jn 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
(MY NOTE: Jesus/God the Son say's, I ascend to My Father & My God. QUESTION; Equal? Or is the Father in authority/out rank the Son?)

Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
(MY NOTE: Jesus/God the Son say's, I will write the name of My God [Jesus call the Father, His God]. QUESTION; Equal? Or does the Father [Jesus stated as being His God] have authority over/out rank the Son? BTW in the Rev verse It's the risen, glorified Jesus speaking)

I respect your opinion & respectfully disagree with your statement: He's not subordinate to the Father. JJ

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BrotherJJ said:

Again, you're welcome to your views. I have no interest in the link you sent. I can't discuss/respond to a video. If you'd like to discuss this threads posted topics, I'll try to reply.

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BrotherJJ said:

The OP never questions why the Father sent the Son.

It's point is; according to [MANY] scripture the OP cites to include the few I sent you today post #52.

The notion Father & Son are co-equal in all things doesn't line up with scripture.

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BrotherJJ said:

The OP never questions why the Father sent the Son.

It's point is; according to [MANY] scripture the OP cites to include the few I sent you today post #52.

The notion Father & Son are co-equal in all things doesn't line up with scripture.

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