Do Tolkien (LOTR etc) and CS Lewis (Narnia) promote witchcraft?

Do Tolkien (LOTR etc) and CS Lewis (Narnia) promote witchcraft?


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To all:

I am not the only Christian who believes Narnia is bad.

Please read this article:
Why Christians should avoid Chronicles of Narnia | Keep Thy Heart

There is much to be concerned about if you read all of the points in this article.

Anyways, I know most do not want to see the truth on this topic (even if they were to read this article).

May you all be in peace in the Lord.

Side Note:

In regards to the article provided in this post: I don’t agree with author’s view on works.
 
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Here are some more articles that explain with SCRIPTURE why Narnia should not be watched by Christians.

Beware of Narnia!
thetruthfortoday
Witchcraft Can Destroy You
https://www.thebereancall.org/content/hyping-narnia-christian

Here is an audio sermon on the topic, as well.

C.S. Lewis - Part 2

Here is a video done by another Christian that is definitely an eye opener, too.


Well now I'm convinced...

The writings of C.S. Lewis are un-christian. No good christian should read them. (That's the right take, right.)

I'm just trying to help you guys out here. I don't read them because they are children's fantasy.
 
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Here are some more articles that explain with SCRIPTURE why Narnia should not be watched by Christians.

Beware of Narnia!
thetruthfortoday
Witchcraft Can Destroy You
https://www.thebereancall.org/content/hyping-narnia-christian

Here is an audio sermon on the topic, as well.

C.S. Lewis - Part 2

Here is a video done by another Christian that is definitely an eye opener, too.


It's still someone's opinion, but they are using scripture to back them up and using their interpretation of said scripture. When you get right down to it, it is still an opinion.
 
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It's still someone's opinion, but they are using scripture to back them up and using their interpretation of said scripture. When you get right down to it, it is still an opinion.

C.S. Lewis may indeed have been a Christian towards the end of his life or on his deathbed (Only God knows), but he also claimed that he struggled with the occult and it shows in his writings. He also believed in Evolution. He believed Adam and Eve were not literal people. He believes much of the Old Testament is mythical. He denies the Substitutionary Atonement. He believes people of other religions (who continue in that religion and don't change) can be saved. He believes that a belief in a literal Satan is not necessary as a part of the Christian faith. He believes that the Bible has errors in it. He believes that other books besides the Bible can be inspired (Note: See the link within this thread for the sources of C.S. Lewis's quotes to support these claims).

In fact, here is a quote by C.S. Lewis on Jesus' prophecy of the End Times:

"Say what you like," we shall be told, "the apocalyptic beliefs of the first Christians have been proved to be false. It is clear from the New Testament that they all expected the Second Coming in their own lifetime. And, worse still, they had a reason, and one which you will find very embarassing. Their Master had told them so. He shared, and indeed created, their delusion. He said in so many words, 'this generation shall not pass till all these things be done.' And he was wrong. He clearly knew no more about the end of the world than anyone else. It is certainly the most embarassing verse in the Bible. Yet how teasing, also, that within fourteen words of it should come the statement"

The man appears to reject Scripture, which does not seem Christian like to me, even if he may been converted to Christianity towards the end of his life or on his deathbed. But the problem is people are eating up his occult fantasy books like candy.

Narnia portrays characters that are from real life paganism (i.e. the occult). The faun that Lucy runs into is Pan (who is a god of lust). What is a god of lust doing when he hangs out with a little girl by himself? There are other pagan gods mentioned, as well.

p. 192 - "Bacchus and the Maenads --- his fierce, madcap girls --- and Silenus, were still with them. Lucy, fully rested, jumped up. Everyone was awake, everyone was laughing, flutes were playing, cymbals clashing. Animals, not Talking Animals, were crowding in upon them from every direction.
" 'What is it, Aslan?' said Lucy, her eyes dancing and her feet wanting to dance.
" 'Come, children," said he. 'Ride on my back again to-day.' "
" 'Oh lovely!' cried Lucy, and both girls climbed on to the warm golden back as they had done no-one knew how many years before. Then the whole party moved off --- Aslan leading. Bacchus and his Maenads leaping, rushing and turning somersaults, the beasts frisking round them, and Silenus and his donkey bringing up the rear." [Emphasis added.]

Now, note here that Lewis actually names the Maenads and describes them as "fierce". To complete the description of this devil worship for your children to mimic in their play, he adds the flutes and cymbals, and animals are brought in, though their fate at the hands of the Maenads is carefully excluded.

He also describes them going down a hill into town where they found a girls' school. The girls were dressed in ugly tight collars, thick stockings and tight hairdos. The teacher and class all fled in terror except one girl. Aslan called her "sweetheart" and asked her to join his wild crowd, which she did. She was instantly dancing with the Maenads who helped her take off some of her "unnecessary" and uncomfortable clothes!

So, Lewis is telling your children that in order to be part of this wild bunch (which he portrays as fun), they must join in the dancing and take off some of their clothes!

This sounds remarkably similar to one of the accounts in the Bible -- the occasion on which Aaron made the golden calf and Israel worshipped it with a wild feast and dancing party. When Moses got back down the mountain, he confronted Aaron and received a stupid excuse. Then we read,

Exodus 32:25 And when Moses saw that the people were naked; (for Aaron had made them naked unto their shame among their enemies ; 26 Then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said, Who is on the LORD'S side? let him come unto me. And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together unto him. 27 And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour. 28 And the children of Levi did according to the word of Moses: and there fell of the people that day about three thousand men.

From this account we can see that the LORD does not look lightly on this sort of thing. Allowing C.S. Lewis to teach your children such heathenism is perilous to say the least!

Source used for the latter half of this post.
C.S. Lewis depths of Satan, Chronicles of Narnia, Dionysus
Other source used to reference C.S. Lewis' false beliefs:
CS LEWIS – The most beloved heretic
 
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Allowing C.S. Lewis to teach your children such heathenism is perilous to say the least!

Opinion. The rest is once more opinion masked as knowledge. Is some of it true? Sure, some of it. However, you are still only giving opinions with scripture mixed in to try and prove your point.

My children will read C.S. Lewis and nothing you say will change that. They will read Tolkien. They already watch Star Wars. Favorite character is Chewbacca, just like their dad.

I see nothing wrong with the above things, just because people like you are against them. Don't want to read these things, good for you. You don't get to dictate by your opinion that I am teaching my children heathenism and that it is perilous.

Anymore, your posts are like the teacher on Charlie Brown, wah-wah, wah is what I hear. I saw where another poster has called you out on how no matter what anyone says to you, you are always right.

There is a pattern starting with people telling you this and maybe you should reflect on what we're telling you.
 
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Opinion. The rest is once more opinion masked as knowledge. Is some of it true? Sure, some of it. However, you are still only giving opinions with scripture mixed in to try and prove your point.

My children will read C.S. Lewis and nothing you say will change that. They will read Tolkien. They already watch Star Wars. Favorite character is Chewbacca, just like their dad.

I see nothing wrong with the above things, just because people like you are against them. Don't want to read these things, good for you. You don't get to dictate by your opinion that I am teaching my children heathenism and that it is perilous.

Anymore, your posts are like the teacher on Charlie Brown, wah-wah, wah is what I hear. I saw where another poster has called you out on how no matter what anyone says to you, you are always right.

There is a pattern starting with people telling you this and maybe you should reflect on what we're telling you.

It comes from the C.S. Lewis's own statement's. So no. It's not opinion. I mean, there is no truth that can be discovered? Jesus said pick up our cross and deny ourselves. 1 John 2:15-17 says love not the world, and neither the things in this world. How exactly is that passage apply to your life?

Jesus said why do you call me Lord Lord if you do not the things which I say? (Luke 6:46).
 
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It's also a known fact that Narnia is required reading by certain witches, as well. Why? Because it has pagan gods in it, and it has occult witchcraft in it (even used by the so called good guys).
 
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It comes from the C.S. Lewis's own statement's. So no. It's not opinion. I mean, there is no truth that can be discovered? Everything is just opinion in your view and you are just wanting to enjoy the fantasy you like and nothing will change that? Doesn't sound like the faith to me. Jesus said pick up your cross and deny yourself. 1 John 2:15-17 says love not the world, and neither the things in this world. How exactly is that passage apply to your life?

Jesus said why do you call me Lord Lord if you do not the things which I say? (Luke 6:46).

The opinion that you have come to is what I am talking about. As well as the opinions of others who are against Lewis, Tolkien, etc...

You want me to once again provide that which I will not give. I am not good at describing scripture or how it applies to my life, so I will not share that with you, the person who is always right and never wrong (again, I am not the only one who has said this). Just your questioning proves that point!
 
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It's also a known fact that Narnia is required reading by certain witches, as well

Witches (which have no power), also use a computer, drive a car, and do a myriad of other things that are required. I guess you should stop doing those things as well then.

You don't want to be associated with witches, do you?
 
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The opinion that you have come to is what I am talking about. As well as the opinions of others who are against Lewis, Tolkien, etc...

You want me to once again provide that which I will not give. I am not good at describing scripture or how it applies to my life, so I will not share that with you, the person who is always right and never wrong (again, I am not the only one who has said this). Just your questioning proves that point!

I am here to talk about the Bible. For faith comes by hearing, and hearing the Word of God (Romans 10:17).
 
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I am here to talk about the Bible. But it appears that you are not interested in doing that with me. For whenever we converse: You never deal with discussing Scripture. You only offer your opinon on OTHER things and you don't want to discuss what the Bible actually says. Thus, there is no real point to having any kind of discussion with you if you are not willing to talk about the faith. For faith comes by hearing, and hearing the Word of God (Romans 10:17).

I explained why. You don't seem to want to acknowledge that fact.

Maybe when I see some humbleness on your part I will be more willing to share. U til that time, no.
 
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Witches (which have no power), also use a computer, drive a car, and do a myriad of other things that are required. I guess you should stop doing those things as well then.

This does not appear to be in line with what the Bible says.
For it is written:

“...Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,” (2 Thessalonians 2:9).

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You don't want to be associated with witches, do you?

I have no idea what you are talking about. My whole argument was to get away from filling one's mind with fantasy works that includes the occult witchcraft and pagan gods of lust found in C.S. Lewis works and it is required reading of certain groups of witches. I actually believe these kinds of books are gateways to the occult and witchcraft. I am telling folks to not go down that road. I am telling folks to not associate with witches or anything occultic.
 
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I hear plenty, at church from a priest. I have learned much from priests.

According to Scripture, believers are all kings and priests in Christ.

“And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.” (Revelation 1:6).​

So from my understanding on the Bible: There is no such thing as a guy called a “priest” among the body of believers in the New Covenant.
That was Old Covenant, and this is not the way of the New Covenant. Our heavenly high priest is Jesus Christ and He sits at the right hand of God the Father.

You said you have learned much from priests:

Well, learning (listening) is one thing, but we must be doers of the Word (James 1:22). We are told to preach the Word (2 Timothy 4:2). But naturally: When the Word is on the inside of us, we cannot help but to speak it and to live it (by obeying our Lord according to His words).

“Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.” (Matthew 5:13-16).

“Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.” (Psalms 119:11).
 
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What possible incentive is there in doing so? You don't speak God's Word. So there is no value in having any kind of discussion with you. I am here to talk about God's Word. Are you? We are told to preach the Word (2 Timothy 4:2).

You still haven't a clue. When you do find it, let me know!
 
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