WAS THE ELECTION FRAUD CLAIM A PART OF TRUMPS OVERALL PLAN TO WIN ALL ALONG?

Trump asked for the rule of law to be followed, Ludwig noted, adding: “It has been.”

After appointing more than 200 judges during his administration, including three Supreme Court justices, Trump made clear that he believed the courts would side with his unprecedented attempts to reverse the election results.

Judges nominated by President Trump play key role in upholding voting limits ahead of Election Day

“The Supreme Court has a chance to save our Country from the greatest Election abuse in the history of the United States. 78% of the people feel (know!) the Election was RIGGED,” the president tweeted Thursday.

After his latest gambit to get before the high court failed, Trump tweeted Saturday: “This is a great and disgraceful miscarriage of justice. The people of the United States were cheated, and our Country disgraced. Never even given our day in Court!”

In fact, Trump was given his day in dozens of courts. The refusal of so many judges to rule as he wished speaks to the limits on his ability to shape the judicial branch.


WASHINGTON POST

Strathos said:

He was saying that the only way he would lose would be via massive fraud months before the election took place. He always intended to make this claim.

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Yes I remember hearing that. Possibly a bit of a presumption to think by stacking the courts he would get a favorable outcome. I am glad there seems to be some integrity at least in the judicial system in the US but certainly shows the dishonesty of Trump by trying to abuse the judicial process to undermine democracy.

GoldenBoy89 said:

Sam Harris does a pretty good run through of all the times he’s made the claim and all the attempts he’s made from well before to well after the election to plant the seeds that the election was rigged and there was massive fraud all throughout and comes to pretty much the same conclusion that this was his strategy to win all along. He always wanted the election to be kicked over to the courts thinking they would more likely side with him. He divided the country over the matter of mail in ballots knowing full well his supporters would mostly vote on Election Day and then they’d see the election be “stolen” from him over the next several days as the mail in and absentee ballots are counted, shifting the results over to Biden.

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Thanks GB, I was thinking similar thoughts when making this OP after reading the article in the WP.

SarahsKnight said:

The people of the United States were cheated all right, for the last four years by the very person claiming this.

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I was posting in another thread somewhere that I am an Oz from Australia, so an outsider looking in as everything has been blasted all over the news here in Australia 24/7 especially after the riots a few days ago. All this is being shown on TV's also all around the world. I love my US friends, but from what we are seeing on the news here looks to be an embarrassment to the US country as a whole and sadly it is being led by a rouge President making statements and claims based on lies and no factual evidence for his claims of a fraudulent election. Talk about poor loser. I have never seen anything the like in all my life. Most US presidents that I have grown up seeing have done a great job for the US uniting the country. This one (Trump) really has been an embarrassment and has divided your country putting a doubt in regards to democracy and the democratic process all around the would. In my view as an outsider looking in, the worst president ever in my life time. To be honest I do not understand why people are believing Trumps lying claims of a fraudulent election when there is no evidence to support what he is saying. Red flags in my view.

Triumvirate said:

he's really more orange than rouge tbf

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True, though that part is not his fault

Percivale said:

I think one reason Trump talked about fraud leading up to the election was to encourage his supporters to commit fraud. If they think the other side is cheating they'd feel justified in doing so.

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To me Trump speaking about fraud before the election is evidence that he had something planned if he was going to lose the election thinking that His court stacking would as a last result win him the election.

pgp_protector said:

Why is someone spraying him with spray on tan when he's not looking?

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Loving your enemies does not mean supporting sin. We do not love our enemies or those who do not believe and follow Gods' Word by supporting them to sin. By supporting someone in sin is to support the very sin that is being committed. Sin will keep all those who knowingly practice is out of God's kingdom according to the scriptures *Hebrews 10:26-31; Romans 6:23; 1 John 3:6. If we love our enemies we will point out sin and encourage them to turn away from it or have to answer to God for not telling them *Ezekiel 3:16-21