When the Wages Of Sin Are Still Death

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1 John 5:
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If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask,
and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death.
There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that.
17 All unrighteousness is sin, and there is sin not leading to death.

Is sin leading to death the opposite of being born again?
Are the wages of sin still death?


18 We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God
keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.

Does sin leading to death=sinning willfully?
Hebrews 10:
26
For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
27
but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour
the adversaries.
28 Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or
three witnesses.
29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace?
30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. And again,
“The Lord will judge His people.”
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Has there ever been a sacrifice for sinning willfully?

Leviticus 4:2 Speak to the children of Israel, saying: If a person sins unintentionally against any of the commandments of the Lord which ought not to be done, and does
any of them...
13 Now if the whole congregation of Israel sins unintentionally, and the thing is hidden from the eyes of the assembly, and they have done something against any of the commandments of the Lord in anything which should not be done, and are guilty;
14 when the sin which they have committed becomes known, then the assembly
shall offer....
22 When a ruler has sinned, and done unintentionally against any of the commandments of the Lord his God in anything which should not be done, and is guilty,
23 or if his sin which he has committed comes to his knowledge, he shall bring as his offering....
27 If anyone of the common people sins unintentionally by doing something against
any of the commandments of the Lord which ought not to be done, and is guilty,
28 or if his sin which he has committed comes to his knowledge, then he shall bring as his offering...
 

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(Rom 14:22) Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.
(Rom 14:23) And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

faith is believing God, and so since whatsoever is not of faith is sin, then sin is not believing God. not believing God that He will protect will lead to an early physical death (wage of sin), but not believing in Jesus as Savior and Master leads to eternal death.

(Heb 10:26) For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
(Heb 10:27) But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
(Heb 10:28) He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
(Heb 10:29) Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
 
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We all gotta die sometime.

Sometimes it doesn't never seem like we will, but we are.

You ever cry over a parent that is still living as they getting older and you know they will pass away one day?

Accepting the Lord Jesus Christ for dying for my sins is good enough for me, to see the light that he had shined.

When looking at my history list of my past and how dark is was, turning from that dark place to God has saved me from a possibility of ever killing anyone, or killing myself off. Has saved me from prison time, though I have suffered debt and losses. God still was there in my dark times, until that one day...

That one day, with a void in the soul, and heart. That it came to mind, you know... I really need to know who this Lord Jesus guy is and what he was about.

Changed me around completely.
 
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i believe that sin divides our hearts/spirits, instead of having life in God's Spirit, we have life in unclean spirit and act in accordance to that spirit's nature, not a Godly nature. Such times are never saved in us, only in The Spirit of The Lord do we have eternal life. We are saved from such life. Jesus cuts it out of us along with all worldly spirituality living in us.

Revelation 19:17-21
And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, great and small.”

Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider on the horse and his army. But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. The rest were killed with the sword coming out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.


i get cut of by The Lord's Word in my unclean spirituality also in my worldly spirituality, all numbered to go. Only in His Spirit can i find eternal life. That is why we need to dress ourselves with acts that come from the holy Spirit for only then will we not get thrown out of the wedding feast.

Hebrews 4:12-13 explains it nicely.

For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.



i have learned to love God for singling me out in my deliberate sins and cutting me off from eternal life. How awful would it be if i was stuck with unfaithful spirit for all eternity? That would surely be terrible. But no He is going to set me free from unclean spirituality - time and again - and wash me with the blood of the lamb. Giving me life in a truthfully loving S(s)pirit so i can join Him and all those who are part of His Kingdom.


So yes judgement is always true on wilful sin, in wilful sin we will not escape His wrath, and we cannot think faith in Jesus will keep us safe, for when we sinned wilfully we had no faith or love for Him at all.

Only when we have a living faith and act out of His Spirit can we be eternalised in our spirit, never otherwise.

Peace.
 
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