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Another fun bit of info: now that Trump's presidency is coming to an end he will have the dubious honor of being the least popular president in modern US history, by about a 4 point margin.
According to the polling. And the polling has been rubbish. Essentially Trump supporters don't trust the media, which includes pollsters, and so are more likely to lie to them.
 
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Seeing as random social media threads seem to count around here (and don't give this person a hard time)

https://twitter.com/juliecmoroney/status/1324558603961991169?s=19

Assuming this person was in the room as they claim, this isn't particularly encouraging behaviour and shows what poor faith the poll watching is being conducted in.

Every ballot being challenged, and imagine trying to do your job properly while you have GOPpers in the room haranguing you and outside the room banging on the window.

And no doubt if this causes the efficacy of the count to be questioned (count isn't going to be made easier by stressing the counters out intentionally), right wingers will be acting completely innocent to how their actions have contributed to the outcomes they see, as they have with higher postal votes for their opponent when they made choices to rubbish that process (which they were also undermining).

The levels of entitlement one must have to think you have a right to just rock up as an unofficial, uninvited, disruptive "poll watcher" is phenomenal. Real dog chasing cars territory. What would these random clowns know what to even look for or do if they got hold of these ballots? They don't even know the basic rules of the counting system because they think the count merely taking this long at this point in the election is suspicious when it is SOP and explicable given the circumstances.

And everyone here thought the left was going to be disruptive and not accepting election results.
 
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That fat lady has been limbering up her tonsils for hours now. Face facts. America has removed the stain on its national character.

Good for them.

We haven’t removed the stain. We just finally manage to put a rug over it.
 
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President Trump has said repeatedly that he has a lot of evidence and proof of voting fraud. I do not think he is lying, and I strongly suspect that he is concealing an Ace card up his sleeve, and is simply waiting for the right moment to play this card face up, for the whole world to see. Certainly some of his recent Twitter posts are written in the style of a person who is gently trolling with sarcasm, knowing full well that he will soon turn the tables. It is quite possible, that when the chosen time comes, Biden's candidature will fall to the ground like a house of cards, while taking a lot of others down with him.

As the saying goes, 'Don't count your chickens until they hatch', and, 'It isn't over until the fat lady sings'. I also refer you all to 1 Corinthians, Chapter 1, Verses 27-29.

Trump also had claimed evidence and proof of Obama not being a citizen. Never presented it.

Trump also had claimed evidence and proof relating to Biden's dealings in Ukraine. Never presented it.

Trump also claimed he would release his tax returns if he won the Presidency. He never released them.

As the saying goes "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me".
 
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We have not.

This was supposed to be an emphatic rebuke of Trumpism. A squeaker of an election in 6 marginal states is not an emphatic rebuke.

It was supposed to be the moment democrats solidified their base, and we did not. We need to do serious soul searching to understand why Trump did so well.

And pollsters should be out on their butts.

Considering that the vast, vast majority of incumbent Presidents win their reelection, this was definitely a rebuke of Trumpism. While electorally, it was a squeaker, Biden won a larger popular vote victory against Trump than Hillary did.

Biden was not a candidate that generated a lot of enthusiasm. Almost all the enthusiasm on the Biden side was anti-Trump enthusiasm.

Both parties need to rethink and remake themselves, although based on their track records i highly doubt they will.
 
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This is horrible. I can’t stand Biden.

I'm not a huge fan of Biden myself (my preference was Bernie) but at least if Trump is out of the way, the country might just have a chance to start digging out from all the damage he's caused. Of course, I fully expect for him to go into utter-destruction mode before January, wrecking everything he possibly can for as many people as possible out of hatefulness and spite.

And Biden at least isn't going to take away healthcare for millions of people among other hugely positive things. Even with a GOP senate doing their best to dismantle everything good, Biden can veto any damage they try to do to the health and well-being of the American people.
 
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Two words....radical left.

You should really check what the actual radical left says about Biden, not what you've been told to think about how those two groups relate to each other.

Right know they're being as useful as ever scolding those of us closer to the centre (because, y'know, Biden isn't a radical leftist) for not having nominated Sanders. Those criticisms of the electoral college constantly skewing wins of less popular rightwing candidates seem to have been completely forgotten by them because they'd rather get mad at us as opposed to Trump's attempted takeover now that it looks like he might lose.

You're not getting a radical left president, so calm down. Count isn't even over yet and Twitler still has plenty of means to cheat.
 
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