Are "Pharmaceuticals" a World-wide End-time Deception?

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but in those cases they weren't being used to treat illness but to torture people. A different thing. Also none of those people who took LSD lost their salvation because they didn't choose to do it...


I was mostly highlighting this part;

"to explore the possibilities of pharmaceutical mind control"

Yeah, I never said anything about losing salvation. The mark is for unbelievers.
 
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That is the lie of Armininism. That you can lose your salvation by accident. You cant. you have to chose to turn against God and live in wilful sin.

and having an illness that needs medication isn't a sin . Jesus said so about the man being born blind. sin doesn't cause this.

You are arguing with a figment of your imagination. You'll be fine.

Shalom.
 
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I was mostly highlighting this part;

"to explore the possibilities of pharmaceutical mind control"

Yeah, I never said anything about losing salvation. The mark is for unbelievers.
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Yes but doctors treating genuine
y sick people aren't trying to control their minds... Those drugs have saved my life allowing me to engage with psychotherapy and start looking a church and read the bible. If a 're started using them to control me I would leave and find another doctor. There are great Christian doctors out there.

and I would rather see a trained doctor than some weirdo who pushed a 28 day fast
 
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This has nothing to do with "pharmacy".

Do you know what the light of the candle represents?

Do you know who are the bridgegroom? His Bride?

Who are the merchants? What are their sorceries that deceived the heathens (nations)?

Revelation 20:7-9 KJV
[7] And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
[8] And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
[9] And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

God is talking about the judgment of His Unfaithful Congregations all over the Earth where His people are His merchants of the Gospel. Both the true merchants and false merchants. But because of their unfaithfulness and apostasy, God has allowed Satan to come in to deceive the false merchants as a judgment. Where? Right here in the church - the camp of the saints and the beloved city. Not physical Israel or Jews.

Now what are the sorceries of the false merchants? This has nothing to do with pharmacy per context.

What if the Media, Government and Pharmaceutical Industrial Complex all collude in Control and Manipulation of the Masses to cause People that God Created, to "need" Pharmaceutical Products that they shouldn't Need? (or even don't need at all, by false diagnoses). Control and Manipulation is at the root of Witchcraft and Sorcery.
 
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You are arguing with a figment of your imagination. You'll be fine.

Shalom.


O h that's ok then

Seriously though the Bible tells us to avoid those claiming God sent them when they didn't . Kernel spirit. We are to avoid such.
 
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What if the Media, Government and Pharmaceutical Industrial Complex all collude in Control and Manipulation of the Masses to cause People that God Created, to "need" Pharmaceutical Products that they shouldn't Need? (or even don't need at all, by false diagnoses). Control and Manipulation is at the root of Witchcraft and Sorcery.


What about people.like me whose diagnoses weren't false though? Who were tested for these conditions ??
 
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Yes but doctors treating genuine
y sick people aren't trying to control their minds... Those drugs have saved my life allowing me to engage with psychotherapy and start looking a church and read the bible. If a 're started using them to control me I would leave and find another doctor. There are great Christian doctors out there.

and I would rather see a trained doctor than some weirdo who pushed a 28 day fast

I understand that some things can make you afraid, but the answer does not lie in demonizing anybody.

This thread is about discussing the possibility that substances may be a part of the end time deception spoken about in the Bible.

No one has said that these drugs are the entirety of this end times scenario. Nor has anyone said that the drugs you are taking have caused you to lose your salvation.
 
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What if the Media, Government and Pharmaceutical Industrial Complex all collude in Control and Manipulation of the Masses to cause People that God Created, to "need" Pharmaceutical Products that they shouldn't Need? (or even don't need at all, by false diagnoses). Control and Manipulation is at the root of Witchcraft and Sorcery.


Well them the doctor will be accountable to God not the patient who has been deceived by them. Bering deceived makes you a victim. The singer isn't he one who deceived you... God will deal with them...I feel no guilt. Why should I hesitation all my.Sims past present and future
 
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I understand that some things can make you afraid, but the answer does not lie in demonizing anybody.

This thread is about discussing the possibility that substances may be a part of the end time deception spoken about in the Bible.

No one has said that these drug are the entirety of this end times scenario. Not, has anyone said that the drugs you are taking has caused you to lose your salvation.
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But she was a false prophet!!! She was the sinner!!! Not me!!!!
 
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I understand that some things can make you afraid, but the answer does not lie in demonizing anybody.

This thread is about discussing the possibility that substances may be a part of the end time deception spoken about in the Bible.

No one has said that these drugs are the entirety of this end times scenario. Nor has anyone said that the drugs you are taking has caused you to lose your salvation.


she was a glutton and a false prophet I am just sta ting that she had no spiritual authority in my life...she wasn't my pastor.... She also believed doctrines of demons like wearing jewellery and make up are sins... This woman abused me spiritually caused me to physically harm myself ...I forgive her but I am obeying the Bible by turning her over to satan
 
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The Bible says not to associate with wicked false prophets and those who cause confusion to new believers... She did that to me... I just !are sure she would never prophesy again...she has breast cancer now last I heard...so I think God removes her
 
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Anyway I just ignore these prophets. My pastor said to ignore people who claim special revelation that isn't backed up the Bible and especially avoid those who believe in man made rules about what women should wear or eat etc that was old testament stuff
 
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well done you!!! You must have been on these boards a long time. I joiNed in May or maybe april

No, I haven't been on too long. I'm just always here when online.

Welcome to CF btw sister!
 
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