The Bible teaches only past sins are forgiven us (not future sins).

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Scripture has to be read as a whole.
Which you’ve shown that you don’t do. You piecemeal it to fit your theology. Hebrews 10:26 isn’t even about sinning and losing salvation. It’s about what happens if the Jews reject the sacrifice of Christ. If they do that, there’s no other sacrifice that will save them.
 
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If we sin we don't have to repent to God. Jesus sacrifice paid the price for all sin, past, present, and future. By saying we have to do something (repent) is works; it's saying that Jesus' sacrifice isn't enough.

The "Our Father Prayer" was not delivered by Jesus to Christians, but to his Hebrew disciples. Why would Jesus tell people to ask for forgiveness when they have already been forgiven??

I'm afraid you're trapped in Catholic dogma instead of being free in Christ.

Waw! Cant believe you actually believe all that! :doh:
 
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Yes, I don't believe in Eternal Torment, either. I used to, but Scripture teaches otherwise (if one closely examines His Word). I believe the Bible teaches that the wicked will be destroyed or annihilated in the Lake of Fire. They will cease to exist at some point after the judgment.

So in your belief called “Reconciliation”: What happens to the wicked outside of the kingdom? Are they still alive? If they are still alive, do they remain as sinners, or does God lobotomize them or something to have a peaceful planet with no sin?

According to Revelation Chapter 22 they are outside of the kingdom of God doing what they wanna do. I do not believe people being destroyed. Yes they are alive, but I don’t know how sin works outside of the kingdom but it made known in the chapter mentioned.

You might ask why? Well because they are still sinners who have no faith or love people.

I wonder though when we go to see God if we can go outside the kingdom and go help others.

One more thing BH: it is an interesting contrast between how when Jesus was on earth he died outside the city, and the Pharisees lived in it.

When Jesus is made king he is inside of the new heavenly Jerusalem ruling, and those who didn’t believe are outside of the city.

they are reflections like a mirror.
 
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According to Revelation Chapter 22 they are outside of the kingdom of God doing what they wanna do. I do not believe people being destroyed. Yes they are alive, but I don’t know how sin works outside of the kingdom but it made known in the chapter mentioned.

You might ask why? Well because they are still sinners who have no faith or love people.

I wonder though when we go to see God if we can go outside the kingdom and go help others.

One more thing BH: it is an interesting contrast between how when Jesus was on earth he died outside the city, and the Pharisees lived in it.

When Jesus is made king he is inside of the new heavenly Jerusalem ruling, and those who didn’t believe are outside of the city.

they are reflections like a mirror.

Conditional Immortality Verses on the Destruction of the Wicked:

(Note: The quotes from certain Modern Translations below say the same thing as the KJV):
(Note 2: Please understand that I do believe that the following verses below can in many cases refer to physical death; But I believe that they can have a more complete meaning in that it also applies to eternal death or eventual annihilation in the Lake of Fire, too; For double meanings in Scripture is not uncommon. For Messianic prophecies prove that Scripture can have two meanings):

"Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power." (2 Thessalonians 1:9).

Whose end is destruction,...” (Philippians 3:19).

“and did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah with seven others, a proclaimer of righteousness, when he brought a flood on the world of the ungodly; and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, having made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly.” (2 Peter 2:5-6 NHEB).

“And repays them that hate him to their face, to destroy them: he will not be slack to him that hates him, he will repay him to his face.” (Deuteronomy 7:10).

“Even as I have seen, they that plow iniquity, and sow wickedness, reap the same. By the blast of God they perish, and by the breath of his nostrils are they consumed.” (Job 4:8-9).

“For the Lord knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.” (Psalms 1:6).

“When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul. Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling-block before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.” (Ezekiel 3:18-20).

“Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die” (Ezekiel 18:4).

“I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.” (Luke 13:3).

“Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.” (Romans 1:32).

“But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;” (2 Peter 2:12).

“What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.” ‭‭(Romans 6:21).

“For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the Lord of hosts.” (Malachi 4:1-3).

“When the wicked spring as the grass, and when all the workers of iniquity do flourish; it is that they shall be destroyed for ever:” (Psalms 92:7).

"....as wax melteth before the fire, so let the wicked perish at the presence of God." (Psalms 68:2).

There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy:” (James 4:12).

"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." (Revelation 21:8).

“And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” (Matthew 10:28).​


Note on Matt 10:28: Hell is thrown into the Lake of Fire (whereby hell or its inhabitants will be destroyed) (See: Revelation 20:14).

Note on Revelation 21:8: The Lake of Fire is called the “second death.” This can only make sense to call it the “second death” if it is related to the “first death” (i.e. physical death - whereby the flesh and blood body perishes and or is destroyed).


IX. Conditional Immortality Verses on the Destruction of the Devil & Death:


The Final Fate of the Wicked Also Includes the Annihilation or:


A. Destruction of the Devil:


• Isaiah 14:12, Isaiah 14:19

12 “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!”
19 “....thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.”​

• Ezekiel 28:12-18

12 “...Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
13 “Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.”​

B. Destruction of the Entity or Power Known As "Death":

• 1 Corinthians 15:26

The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death”​

Now, stop and think for a moment. Again, if the last enemy to be DESTROYED is “death,” then logic dictates that there are other previous enemies of God who will also be destroyed, too. This means that wicked mankind, and the devil and his minions will also be destroyed, as well. For they are also God’s enemies!
 
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According to Revelation Chapter 22 they are outside of the kingdom of God doing what they wanna do. I do not believe people being destroyed. Yes they are alive, but I don’t know how sin works outside of the kingdom but it made known in the chapter mentioned.

You might ask why? Well because they are still sinners who have no faith or love people.

I wonder though when we go to see God if we can go outside the kingdom and go help others.

One more thing BH: it is an interesting contrast between how when Jesus was on earth he died outside the city, and the Pharisees lived in it.

When Jesus is made king he is inside of the new heavenly Jerusalem ruling, and those who didn’t believe are outside of the city.

they are reflections like a mirror.

The End of the Wicked is Annihilation:

Wicked shall be destroyed:


Psalms 145:20 The Lord preserveth all them that love him:
but all the wicked will he destroy.
Psalms 101:8 I will early destroy all the wicked of the land;
that I may cut off all wicked doers from the city of the Lord.
Psalms 37:38 But the transgressors shall be destroyed together:
the end of the wicked shall be cut off.
Psalms 92:7 When the wicked spring as the grass,
and when all the workers of iniquity do flourish;
it is that they shall be destroyed for ever:
Proverbs 13:13 Whoso despiseth the word shall be destroyed:
but he that feareth the commandment shall be rewarded.
Proverbs 10:29 The way of the Lord is strength to the upright:
but destruction shall be to the workers of iniquity.
Hosea 7:13 Woe unto them! for they have fled from me: destruction unto them! because they have transgressed against me: though I have redeemed them, yet they have spoken lies against me.
Philippians 3:19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)
2 Peter 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;​

They shall perish:

Psalms 37:20 But the wicked shall perish,
and the enemies of the Lord shall be as the fat of lambs:
they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.
Psalms 1:6 For the Lord knoweth the way of the righteous:
but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
Proverbs 19:9 A false witness shall not be unpunished,
and he that speaketh lies shall perish.
Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.​

The wicked shall be burnt up:

Matthew 3:12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
Malachi 4:1-3 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts,​

The wicked will be consumed:

Isaiah 1:28 And the destruction of the transgressors and of the sinners shall be together, and they that forsake the Lord shall be consumed.
Psalms 37:20 But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the Lord shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.​

The wicked will be devoured:

Psalms 21:9 Thou shalt make them as a fiery oven in the time of thine anger: the Lord shall swallow them up in his wrath, and the fire shall devour them.
Revelation 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Hebrews 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Nahum 1:9-10 What do ye imagine against the Lord? he will make an utter end: affliction shall not rise up the second time. For while they be folden together as thorns, and while they are drunken as drunkards, they shall be devoured as stubble fully dry.​

The wicked are compared to combustible materials:

Matthew 3:12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
Nahum 1:9-10 What do ye imagine against the Lord? he will make an utter end: affliction shall not rise up the second time. For while they be folden together as thorns, and while they are drunken as drunkards, they shall be devoured as stubble fully dry.
Matthew 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
John 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.​

The wicked shall die:

James 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Proverbs 15:10 Correction is grievous unto him that forsaketh the way: and he that hateth reproof shall die.
Proverbs 19:16 He that keepeth the commandment keepeth his own soul; but he that despiseth his ways shall die.
The Wicked Shall Be No More:

Psalms 37:9-11 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait on the LORD, they shall inherit the earth. For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yes, you shall diligently consider his place, and it shall not be. But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.

Psalms 104:35 Let the sinners be consumed out of the earth, and let the wicked be no more. Bless thou the LORD, O my soul. Praise ye the LORD.​
 
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The Bible teaches only past sins are forgiven us (not future sins).

Believers need to confess and

forsake sin to continue to obtain forgiveness (or salvation).

Here are the verses in the Bible that teach or imply that past sins only are forgiven:

2 Peter 1:9 KJB
“But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.

2 Peter 1:9 BLB
“For in whomever these things are not present, he is blind, being short sighted, having received forgetfulness of the purification from his former sins.”

1 John 1:9 KJB
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”

Acts of the Apostles 8:22 KJB
Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.”

Hebrews 10:26 KJB
“For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,”

Proverbs 28:13 KJB
He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.”

Romans 6:22-23 KJB
22 “But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”

Romans 8:13 KJB
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.”

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 KJB
9 “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.”

John 3:20 KJB
“For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.”

1 John 3:15 KJB
Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.”

1 John 3:8 KJB
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.”

Acts of the Apostles 5:1-11 KJB
1 “But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.
3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.
6 And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.
7 And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.
8 And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.
9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.
10 Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.
11 And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things.”

Matthew 10:33 KJB
“But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.”

Matthew 6:15 KJB
“But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”

Revelation 22:12-15 KJB
12 “And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.”
"Once for all."
The OP said.......
If that were true Jesus would have to die daily for us.
 
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What do you mean by annihlation of the wicked?

If you are willing can you please reduce all the scriptures you shared.

I would like to know what you mean without scriptures and from your heart cause I can see all the scriptures but that doesn't allow me to know you.

Also a side note, I hate how you just looked at my post and decided to answer it all with scripture than just answering me back like having a normal conversation. It's okay though.
 
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Not all sin leads to spiritual death. 1 John 5 talks about the sin that does not lead to death.
Any sin that the Bible attaches with warnings of hellfire and or condemnation is a sin unto death.
While we should confess all sin, the confessing of sins that lead unto death is essential to maintain salvation or forgiveness. For one cannot be unforgiven and saved. 1 John 1:9 says that by confessing, we are forgiven. It really is that simple. But of course, many do not like what the Bible says.

John doesn’t say a single word about what happens if we don’t confess our sins. So what about this scenario, let’s say a person who is abiding in Christ forgets to confess a mortal sin, he’s going to hell because he forgot?
 
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"Once for all."
The OP said.......
If that were true Jesus would have to die daily for us.

Now you are putting words in my mouth. Nowhere did I say that Jesus died daily for us. Jesus did die once for all as Scripture says, but you misunderstand the Provisional Atonement. Unless you are a Universalist, you had to do something in order to gain access to God's grace. You either believe that one must accept Jesus as one's Savior, and or you believe in His death, burial, and resurrection, and or you believe in seeking forgiveness with Jesus (or a combination of all of these). I believe in these things, as well. I believe we are saved by God's grace through faith in Jesus Christ. This is how we gain access to God's grace. But it is by faith. Without faith, it is impossible to please God. Faith comes by hearing and hearing the Word of God. Anything in your Bible is a part of the faith. So if God commands me to love my neighbor, that is a part of the faith. If God tells me to be fruitful (works), that is a part of the faith.
 
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"Once for all."
The OP said.......
If that were true Jesus would have to die daily for us.

I challenge you. Can you explain the verses in the OP in how they are not implying how past sin only is forgiven by pointing to the context that would help to give clarity? I know you cannot because no such context exists. Can you offer verses that show specifically that future sin is forgiven a believer? Again, I know you cannot show such verses. If such verses existed, they would contradict the rest of the Bible in tons of places.
 
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John doesn’t say a single word about what happens if we don’t confess our sins. So what about this scenario, let’s say a person who is abiding in Christ forgets to confess a mortal sin, he’s going to hell because he forgot?

John does not to say it. The Scriptures themselves teach that the word “repent” means to confess sin to God, and Jesus says repent or perish in Luke 13:3. But how can confessing sin be the same thing as repentance?

Well, here is...

A Biblical Case For Repentance:


At the heart, I believe the Bible teaches that "Repentance" means, "Asking God for forgiveness" (Which of course naturally then leads to the "fruits of repentance", i.e. obedience to the Lord):

Important Note: While I may believe "Repentance" does involve to a certain degree a "change of mind" (like a person changing their mind about their old life of sin), I do not think "Repentance" exclusively means a “change of mind.”

"Asking God for forgiveness of sin" can either refer to: The "Sinner's Prayer" (Initial Salvation) (Romans 10:13), and or the seasoned believer "Confessing one's sin" (Continued Salvation) (See 1 John 1:9, 1 John 2:1).

Anyways, here are my ten points using Scripture showing that "repentance" means "asking God for forgiveness of sin.”

#1. Acts 2:38,
The New Living Translation says in Acts 2:38 to "repent of your sins."
Douay Reheims says in Acts 2:38 to "Do penance."
New Life Version says in Acts 2:38 to "Be sorry for your sins"

#2. Luke 17:3 says, "Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him." This doesn't make any sense if "repent" means believe in Jesus (as some teach) or to have a change of mind about sin (as others teach) or to exclusively forsake sin. Yes, we are to forsake sin as a part of repentance but that comes later after repentance (Which is to ask God for forgiveness of our sin). For how can we reconcile with a brother if we do not say we are sorry vs. just going on about life as if we did nothing wrong?

#3. Jesus said in Matthew 12:41 that the Ninevites will rise up in Judgment against this generation because they repented at the preaching of Jonah. If you were to turn to Jonah chapter 3, you would be able to see in Jonah 3:6-10 that the King of the Ninevites had told his people to:

(a) Cry out to God (i.e. Repentance) (See Jonah 3:8).
(b) Turn from their sins or evil ways (i.e. The Natural Fruits of Repentance).​

#4. Matthew 3:6 (which then lines up with Matthew 3:8). Also, in Mark 1:4-5, it says John preached the "baptism of repentance" for the remission of sins (verse 4), and it then defines this "baptism of repentance" by saying they confessed their sins when they were baptized (verse 5).

#5. We see in Acts of the Apostles 8:22 a clear example of Peter telling Simon to "repent" of his wickedness in trying to pay for the Holy Spirit. Peter is telling Simon to make a prayer towards God. For Peter says that he should pray that God might forgive him. In other words, Peter is telling Simon to repent of a one time event of wickedness by way of prayer to GOD. This only makes sense if "repent" means to "ask for forgiveness."

#6. Ezekiel 14:6 says,
"Repent, and turn yourselves from your idols;" Repent makes the most sense here if a person is asking God for forgiveness by way of prayer instead of a person just believing in God. Naturally a person believes in God as their Savior if they are planning on forsaking their idols.

#7. We see repentance is the topic of discussion in Luke 15 (Luke 15:6) (Luke 15:10); This is then followed up by the "Parable of the Prodigal Son" with the son desiring to be reconciled with his father. We learn the WAY the Prodigal Son desired to be reconciled with his father when he said,

"I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee, And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants." (Luke 15:18-19).

In other words, the Prodigal Son was seeking forgiveness. This ties into the point of repentance in Luke 15:6 and Luke 15:10.

#8. Luke 10:13 says,
"Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works had been done in Tyre and Sidon, which have been done in you, they had a great while ago repented, sitting in sackcloth and ashes." This rules out the theory that repentance is exclusively forsaking sin. Granted, forsaking sin always follow true repentance (Asking God for forgiveness of one's sins) but forsaking sin is not repentance. The word "repented" here is describing a one time event because they "repented", sitting in sackcloth and ashes. In Jonah 3:6 we learn that the King of Nineveh sat in sackcloth and ashes. In Jonah 3:8, the King of Nineveh tells people to put on sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God (i.e. repentance): and then turn from their evil way (i.e. the fruits of repentance).

#9. John the Baptist says we are to bring forth fruits worthy of repentance (Luke 3:8). Fruits are deeds (or obedience to God). How can repentance be the same thing as the fruit? Is the fruit the same thing as the tree?

#10. Jeremiah 8:6 says, "I hearkened and heard, but they spake not aright: no man repented him of his wickedness, saying, What have I done? every one turned to his course, as the horse rusheth into the battle." Here we see the word "repented of wickedness" tied with the words, "What have I done?" This is an acknowledgement of one's sin to God as a part of asking His forgiveness.


Notable Additional Verses that Deal with Repentance
(But They Do Not Use The Word "Repent" or "Repentance"):

"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." (Romans 10:13).

13 "And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted. (Luke 18:13-14).

Proverbs 28:13 says whosoever confesses and forsakes sin shall have mercy.
 
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John does not to say it. The Scriptures themselves teach that the word “repent” means to confess sin to God, and Jesus says repent or perish in Luke 13:3. But how can confessing sin be the same thing as repentance?

Well, here is...

A Biblical Case For Repentance:


At the heart, I believe the Bible teaches that "Repentance" means, "Asking God for forgiveness" (Which of course naturally then leads to the "fruits of repentance", i.e. obedience to the Lord):

Important Note: While I may believe "Repentance" does involve to a certain degree a "change of mind" (like a person changing their mind about their old life of sin), I do not think "Repentance" exclusively means a “change of mind.”

"Asking God for forgiveness of sin" can either refer to: The "Sinner's Prayer" (Initial Salvation) (Romans 10:13), and or the seasoned believer "Confessing one's sin" (Continued Salvation) (See 1 John 1:9, 1 John 2:1).

Anyways, here are my ten points using Scripture showing that "repentance" means "asking God for forgiveness of sin.”

#1. Acts 2:38,
The New Living Translation says in Acts 2:38 to "repent of your sins."
Douay Reheims says in Acts 2:38 to "Do penance."
New Life Version says in Acts 2:38 to "Be sorry for your sins"

#2. Luke 17:3 says, "Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him." This doesn't make any sense if "repent" means believe in Jesus (as some teach) or to have a change of mind about sin (as others teach) or to exclusively forsake sin. Yes, we are to forsake sin as a part of repentance but that comes later after repentance (Which is to ask God for forgiveness of our sin). For how can we reconcile with a brother if we do not say we are sorry vs. just going on about life as if we did nothing wrong?

#3. Jesus said in Matthew 12:41 that the Ninevites will rise up in Judgment against this generation because they repented at the preaching of Jonah. If you were to turn to Jonah chapter 3, you would be able to see in Jonah 3:6-10 that the King of the Ninevites had told his people to:

(a) Cry out to God (i.e. Repentance) (See Jonah 3:8).
(b) Turn from their sins or evil ways (i.e. The Natural Fruits of Repentance).​

#4. Matthew 3:6 (which then lines up with Matthew 3:8). Also, in Mark 1:4-5, it says John preached the "baptism of repentance" for the remission of sins (verse 4), and it then defines this "baptism of repentance" by saying they confessed their sins when they were baptized (verse 5).

#5. We see in Acts of the Apostles 8:22 a clear example of Peter telling Simon to "repent" of his wickedness in trying to pay for the Holy Spirit. Peter is telling Simon to make a prayer towards God. For Peter says that he should pray that God might forgive him. In other words, Peter is telling Simon to repent of a one time event of wickedness by way of prayer to GOD. This only makes sense if "repent" means to "ask for forgiveness."

#6. Ezekiel 14:6 says,
"Repent, and turn yourselves from your idols;" Repent makes the most sense here if a person is asking God for forgiveness by way of prayer instead of a person just believing in God. Naturally a person believes in God as their Savior if they are planning on forsaking their idols.

#7. We see repentance is the topic of discussion in Luke 15 (Luke 15:6) (Luke 15:10); This is then followed up by the "Parable of the Prodigal Son" with the son desiring to be reconciled with his father. We learn the WAY the Prodigal Son desired to be reconciled with his father when he said,

"I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee, And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants." (Luke 15:18-19).

In other words, the Prodigal Son was seeking forgiveness. This ties into the point of repentance in Luke 15:6 and Luke 15:10.

#8. Luke 10:13 says,
"Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works had been done in Tyre and Sidon, which have been done in you, they had a great while ago repented, sitting in sackcloth and ashes." This rules out the theory that repentance is exclusively forsaking sin. Granted, forsaking sin always follow true repentance (Asking God for forgiveness of one's sins) but forsaking sin is not repentance. The word "repented" here is describing a one time event because they "repented", sitting in sackcloth and ashes. In Jonah 3:6 we learn that the King of Nineveh sat in sackcloth and ashes. In Jonah 3:8, the King of Nineveh tells people to put on sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God (i.e. repentance): and then turn from their evil way (i.e. the fruits of repentance).

#9. John the Baptist says we are to bring forth fruits worthy of repentance (Luke 3:8). Fruits are deeds (or obedience to God). How can repentance be the same thing as the fruit? Is the fruit the same thing as the tree?

#10. Jeremiah 8:6 says, "I hearkened and heard, but they spake not aright: no man repented him of his wickedness, saying, What have I done? every one turned to his course, as the horse rusheth into the battle." Here we see the word "repented of wickedness" tied with the words, "What have I done?" This is an acknowledgement of one's sin to God as a part of asking His forgiveness.


Notable Additional Verses that Deal with Repentance
(But They Do Not Use The Word "Repent" or "Repentance"):

"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." (Romans 10:13).

13 "And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted. (Luke 18:13-14).

Proverbs 28:13 says whosoever confesses and forsakes sin shall have mercy.

Repentance and confession are two different things. Repentance is turning away from sin and towards God. If your saying that repentance is merely confession then that means that we don’t have to refrain from sin we can just keep asking for forgiveness for committing the same sins over and over and never actually becoming a born again new creation. Repentance is imperative to becoming a new creation and ridding ourself of our old ways. Metanoia is not confession and nothing in its definition implies anything similar to confession of sins.

Metanoia- 1. to change one's mind, i.e. to repent
2. to change one's mind for better, heartily to amend with abhorrence of one's past sins


Strong’s Definitions:
From μετά G3326 and νοιέω G3539; to think differently or afterwards, that is, reconsider (morally to feel compunction): - repent.
 
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Repentance and confession are two different things. Repentance is turning away from sin and towards God. If your saying that repentance is merely confession then that means that we don’t have to refrain from sin we can just keep asking for forgiveness for committing the same sins over and over and never actually becoming a born again new creation. Repentance is imperative to becoming a new creation and ridding ourself of our old ways. Metanoia is not confession and nothing in its definition implies anything similar to confession of sins.

Metanoia- 1. to change one's mind, i.e. to repent
2. to change one's mind for better, heartily to amend with abhorrence of one's past sins


Strong’s Definitions:
From μετά G3326 and νοιέω G3539; to think differently or afterwards, that is, reconsider (morally to feel compunction): - repent.

Stop looking at theologically dictionaries and look at the Word of God. Please. Please indulge me and look at the verses I posted slowly and carefully. It is not just one or two verses, but a whole bunch of them saying the same thing. Please go back and read my points in Scripture more carefully. If you are in doubt, ask God to show you the truth on this matter, and He will.

Jesus said narrow is the way. This includes the truth that most do not understand what God's Word even says. They read their Bible and they don't believe it.
 
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Stop looking at theologically dictionaries and look at the Word of God. Please. Please indulge me and look at the verses I posted slowly and carefully. It is not just one or two verses, but a whole bunch of them saying the same thing. Please go back and read my points in Scripture more carefully. If you are in doubt, ask God to show you the truth on this matter, and He will.

No that’s just ignoring the actual meaning of the Greek words. Obviously you can see that the word confess is translated from a completely different word with a completely different meaning than repent. I read the verses you quoted and only if you ignore the definitions of the Greek words that are used can you come to the conclusion that repentance implies confession. Also please answer my question. If a person who is abiding in Christ forgets or fails to confess a mortal sin will they go to hell because they forgot?
 
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What do you mean by annihlation of the wicked?

Annihilation:

definition:

1. The act of reducing to nothing, or nonexistence;
2. utter destruction.
3. entire and complete destruction of a place, thing or group.

Source:
Annihilation dictionary definition | annihilation defined

You said:
If you are willing can you please reduce all the scriptures you shared.

I would like to know what you mean without scriptures and from your heart cause I can see all the scriptures but that doesn't allow me to know you.

It is written:

“He must increase, but I must decrease.” (John 3:30).

My life is hid in God and His Word. David hid God's Word in his heart so that he may not sin against Him (See: Psalms 119:11). For me to live and breath God's Word is my daily life goal and way of life. Jesus said we are to deny ourselves and to pick up our cross. Not his cross. Our cross. We are to fight the good fight of faith. So if you don't want to talk about the Bible on a Christian forum, then you come to the wrong place. This is not Facebook. In fact, I strongly dislike Facebook, Twitter, etc.

You said:
Also a side note, I hate how you just looked at my post and decided to answer it all with scripture than just answering me back like having a normal conversation. It's okay though.

Can you not read? Do you have a problem reading God's Word? My answer is contained in the Bible. If you did not understand what I meant by the verses, I can explain it for you if you ask. Jesus responded to the devil with Scripture. Would you be upset if Jesus gave you only Scripture as a reply? I sure hope not. We should be striving to be more like our Lord in everything (When it comes to righteous living as men of God).
 
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No that’s just ignoring the actual meaning of the Greek words. Obviously you can see that the word confess is translated from a completely different word with a completely different meaning than repent. I read the verses you quoted and only if you ignore the definitions of the Greek words that are used can you come to the conclusion that repentance implies confession. Also please answer my question. If a person who is abiding in Christ forgets or fails to confess a mortal sin will they go to hell because they forgot?

I got news for you. You don't know Biblical Greek. Nobody does. It's a dead language. You don't have an apostle Paul around to correct you when it get your Biblical Greek wrong. I am simple. I just read the Bible in my own language that cannot distorted or changed.

Do you know that James talks about how the poor of this world is rich in faith? Do you honestly think that this is the fat cat scholars who supposedly know the original languages? I don't believe it is. I believe that a bum on the streets can have more faith than you or me by having a Bible in the English language that they know. I believe God preserved His words just as he said in Psalms 12:6-7. But funny how this promise is neutered like a cat in Modern Translations.

I just read and believe my Bible simply. There is no seeking to create another Bible or an attempt to rewrite what is written. I just read it, and believe it. You should do the same.
 
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I got news for you. You don't know Biblical Greek. Nobody does. It's a dead language. You don't have an apostle Paul around to correct you when it get your Biblical Greek wrong. I am simple. I just read the Bible in my own language that cannot distorted or changed.

Do you know that James talks about how the poor of this world is rich in faith? Do you honestly think that this is the fat cat scholars who supposedly know the original languages? I don't believe it is. I believe that a bum on the streets can have more faith than you or me by having a Bible in the English language that they know. I believe God preserved His words just as he said in Psalms 12:6-7. But funny how this promise is neutered like a cat in Modern Translations.

I just read and believe my Bible simply. There is no seeking to create another Bible or an attempt to rewrite what is written. I just read it, and believe it. You should do the same.

Why do you keep avoiding my question brother? I’m asking it to make a simple point.
 
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I got news for you. You don't know Biblical Greek. Nobody does. It's a dead language. You don't have an apostle Paul around to correct you when it get your Biblical Greek wrong. I am simple. I just read the Bible in my own language that cannot distorted or changed.

Do you know that James talks about how the poor of this world is rich in faith? Do you honestly think that this is the fat cat scholars who supposedly know the original languages? I don't believe it is. I believe that a bum on the streets can have more faith than you or me by having a Bible in the English language that they know. I believe God preserved His words just as he said in Psalms 12:6-7. But funny how this promise is neutered like a cat in Modern Translations.

I just read and believe my Bible simply. There is no seeking to create another Bible or an attempt to rewrite what is written. I just read it, and believe it. You should do the same.
If it’s a dead language that nobody knows, how did we get an English translation?
 
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I got news for you. You don't know Biblical Greek. Nobody does. It's a dead language. You don't have an apostle Paul around to correct you when it get your Biblical Greek wrong. I am simple. I just read the Bible in my own language that cannot distorted or changed.

Do you know that James talks about how the poor of this world is rich in faith? Do you honestly think that this is the fat cat scholars who supposedly know the original languages? I don't believe it is. I believe that a bum on the streets can have more faith than you or me by having a Bible in the English language that they know. I believe God preserved His words just as he said in Psalms 12:6-7. But funny how this promise is neutered like a cat in Modern Translations.

I just read and believe my Bible simply. There is no seeking to create another Bible or an attempt to rewrite what is written. I just read it, and believe it. You should do the same.

The tax collector who humbled himself before God didn’t confess his sins, he simply acknowledged that he was a sinner in need of forgiveness.
 
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Why do you keep avoiding my question brother? I’m asking it to make a simple point.

What was the question? I usually start to skim read posts when I find them going downhill into the pit of illogical thinking.
 
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