It IS for all people - sadly not all will respond and receive the ree gift of God, Romans 6:23.
If not all receive the free gift how will they experience great joy because of it?
That doesn't say that all will be saved.
I feel it confirms the others but ok, I get it.
Yes, he desires that all will be saved - but he chose to create us with free will; not as puppets.
I think both desires (free will + all be saved) are compatible.
4. Yes, he can do all things - except to go against his own nature. And he chose to create humans with free will - he does not force anything on us.
5. Similar - doesn't say that everyone will be saved.
6. This has nothing at all to do with salvation. It is from a letter that Jeremiah wrote to those in exile, who were saying that all hope had gone because they were in a foreign land (see Psalms 37) and Jerusalem had been destroyed. God said it was ok for them to settle in the land, build houses etc - "FOR, I know the plans I have for you ...."
4. If He can do all things He can convince/convert/save without forcing too.
5. Is translated in other translations as "He does whatsoever He pleases". If hell is real, it must please Him to send people there. Which can not be true in the light of 3 (His desire to have all men be saved).
6. I think you can read it in isolation and infer that God's plan for people is for peace and not calamity, but allright, I see what you mean. Valid
He is the Saviour for all, but not all will believe.
If not all will believe, He won't be Saviour of all. simple as that.
Doesn't say that all will be saved.
A person could come to Jesus and still walk away because too much is required of him - see the rich young ruler and those who deserted Jesus in John 6:66.
Good point. But we don't know that he was really drawn to Jesus, but that he wanted eternal life.
Jesus is the second Adam.
Just as Adam brought death and separation from God to all, Jesus brings life and reconciliation which is for everyone. Sadly not all will respond, however.
If not all will respond (truth be told I believe 90+% will not before their physical death) the free gift doesn't come unto all men.
Every one/thing that is IN CHRIST will be gathered together to him.
But not everyone is in Christ.
Not how I interpret it. I see that all (living) things will be gathered together in Christ.
To me, it is a prophecy.
Someone cannot be reconciled to God unless they have accepted Christ, believed that he died for their sins and received eternal life.
John says that whoever does not have eternal life will perish, John 3:36. 1 John 5:12.
True, they must accept Christ. Most will perish. What this means though is where we differ.
Because I don't think this perishing negates the reconciliation part. It must be a way of perishing/being destroyed with perspective to becoming reconciled, is my conclusion.
Yes, Jesus died for everyone - but not everyone will receive him and be saved.
To be testified in due time
whenever that may be. could be milennia from now
Ditto.
Jesus died for all, not just a select few; but not all will believe.
Remember that God's purpose can't be thwarted? If the purpose of Jesus is to save the world, and God's plan can not be thwarted (also not by free will), then it must follow that the world will be saved.
These say the same thing - Jesus died for the world, but not all will be saved.
Romans 6:23 - the gift of God is eternal life ..... Not all want to receive that gift.
If not all will be saved, then "giveth life unto the world" is not true, in my opinon.
How does that say that all will be saved?
I have hope that all will be saved. God says hope does not disappoint. He says it makes not ashamed. At the very least I don't have to be ashamed for this hope, according to God. Ever.
In the best case I won't be disappointed.
True.
But not everyone will believe on him.
I understand this is not the most obvious verse to support universalism, but for me personally it does. God says I'll never have to be ashamed of Him. If He'd send people to hell, I would be.
Yes, everyone will see God, everyone will confess that Jesus is Lord.
But those who died in their sins will not be saved.
A verse someone says that people will mourn when they look on the One whom they pierced.
How can that be, when everyone who believes and confesses shall be saved?
That must have taken you quite a while to do.
Sadly, I don't agree. I wish I did - it would be a good excuse not to carry out the Great Commission or tell people to repent, if I felt they were going to be saved whatever I did.
But Jesus' first words were "repent and believe the Good News", not "I'd like you to repent, but if you don't do it now, you'll get a chance after death." Or, "God will save all of you anyway, so it doesn't really matter if you repent or not."
Yes, thanks for noticing. Same goes for your reply. Thanks for taking the time.
Too bad you disagree. Personally, I was very frustrated when evangelizing when I still believed in hell. Now I am indeed more relaxed about it.