Why do so many Christians support political positions which protect selfishness?

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No media outlet has said the same? No opinion pieces either (non-Christian)? You’re basing your OP on Internet discussions with secular citizens?~Bella
I am going to venture a guess here, and say that no responsible mainstream media outlet would openly express outrage at Evangelical Christians in general, because that would be crossing a line, tar-brushing a whole category of people just because a lot of them did something you didn't like. (The way some people do with Muslims.) You generally find that sort of tar-brushing in the more partisan outlets. But I can assure you that on free-for-all Progressive sites there is a lot of Evangelical-bashing.
 
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If no one had money in a bank savings account where would loans come from (savings come from extra money not needed at the moment)?
Again, I do not understand where the question is coming from. Nothing I said leads to the asking of that question. Why, exactly, are you asking it?
 
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I am going to venture a guess here, and say that no responsible mainstream media outlet would openly express outrage at Evangelical Christians in general, because that would be crossing a line, tar-brushing a whole category of people just because a lot of them did something you didn't like.

But you’ve done the same in your OP and you’re a Christian. Introspection inspired a personal conviction you’ve applied to the masses. You’ve made a litany of generalizations about various groups instead of focusing on the bigger issue at hand.

He must increase, but I must decrease. —John 3:30

If you had chosen to share your conviction without casting judgment, it would be a powerful testimony which enlightened others. If the Lord led you to this position; He’s the biggest loser. Your OP casts little notice on Him. He’s in the background. You’re front and center.

You lost a great opportunity by making it political. But maybe edification wasn’t the point.

~Bella
 
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A lot of Americans are asking these days why so many Christians seem to believe that selfishness is virtuous, and that voting for lower taxes rather than greater care for others is a good thing. Even people with little or no knowledge of Christian teaching are vaguely aware that Christians are supposed to care about poor people. And they happen to be right. Many places in the Bible speak to this topic, both in the Old Testament and the New. In general, God encourages concern for the poor at all times. This fact ought to inform the way Christians vote regarding secular government, but it does not seem to.

Why not?

I think I know part of the reason, and I would like to share it for those who want to understand how conservative Christians think—especially Evangelical Christians who say that the Bible is the final authority for faith and practice—or else who are Christian themselves and who feel an urge to support government poverty relief but have been told that it would be unchristian to do so. No, it would not be unchristian. But let’s look at why so many Christian have come to believe that it is wrong.

First, let’s look at a few of those Bible passages, to establish the Christian starting point:

Proverbs 21:13 He who shuts his ear to the cry of the poor will also cry himself and not be answered.
Proverbs 28:27 He who gives to the poor will never want, but he who shuts his eyes will have many curses.
Proverbs 14:31 Whoever oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God.
Ephesians 4:28 He who steals must steal no longer; but rather he must labor, performing with his own hands what is good, so that he will have something to share with one who has need.
I John 3:17 But whoever has the world’s goods, and sees his brother in need and closes his heart against him, how does the love of God abide in him?

So how do Christians reason their way from a Biblical emphasis on helping the poor to a secular emphasis on “What’s mine is mine. . .keep your hands off!”?

First, there is ordinary human nature. Some degree of selfish motivation is universal because we are all descended from Adam, and Christians are not exempt from human nature.

Second, there obviously are some people who self-identify as “Christian” who are nothing of the sort, but I am not talking about them at all, so let’s move on to. . .

Third, there are rationalizations that are very convincing-sounding, even to a genuinely committed Christian. These are the rationalizations that I want to focus on, because I am familiar with them. The reason I am familiar with them is because I was taught them by Christians whom I respected, and, to my shame, I believed them for years. But I no longer believe them. Here is what I once believed, followed by how my understanding regarding those things has changed.

First, the faulty beliefs:

1) Equality of opportunity is important, but equality of results is nowhere promised in the Bible. It is no concern of mine if some people have the opportunity to do well, but fail because of their own faults.

2) “Welfare” programs are generally a bad idea because they do more harm than good, by fostering an attitude of dependency and encouraging laziness.

3) Most people who are poor get that way through their own irresponsibility. What they need is not a government program but a change in the way they personally approach life.

4) The best cure for poverty is a strong economy, and Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats are. “A rising tide lifts all boats.”

Later on I discovered one more rationalization I was not familiar with until after I began to question the above beliefs. Ironically, I first came across it while skimming through a Christian school history textbook published by a popular fundamentalist Christian publishing house. I will say more about “Not Yours to Give” a little further on.

Regarding those four basic beliefs, over time I began to see that I was simply mistaken about some of my assumptions, and I also had failed to take a lot of Bible principles into account. Seeing “the rest of the story” made a huge difference in my outlook. Here is what I ended up concluding:

1) True equality of opportunity has not yet arrived in America. My assumption was based on naïve “ivory tower” thinking that does not match reality. The majority of American poverty is not the result of people’s own poor performance on a level playing field.

2) The belief that welfare encourages laziness is another example of unverified “ivory tower” thinking. Just because a conclusion is reasonable does not make it factual, and just because it may in fact be true sometimes does not make it true all the time.

3) I came face to face with my own self-righteousness here. When I thought that other people’s poverty was usually caused by their own irresponsibility, what I was really saying to myself was, “Anybody who is not as good as I am at taking care of themselves is a moron who deserves to fail.” Pretty arrogant, no? Besides that, it is statistically simply not true that welfare usually goes to “undeserving” people. It turns out that a huge percentage of the unemployed population got that way through circumstances entirely outside of their control. When your employer “downsizes” you and then you simply cannot find another comparable job, that has nothing to do with bad personal habits.

4) Watching the economy in the early 2000s is what finally turned me against the “rising tide” principle, also known as “trickle-down economics.” A rising economic tide absolutely does not lift all boats. And it was reading all those conservative justifications for abolishing the minimum wage entirely that finally pushed me over the edge. Whereas I used to be in full agreement that “redistribution of wealth” was morally wrong, I now believe that the real problem is not redistribution of wealth, it is the ungodly concentration of wealth in the first place. I would prefer to see prevention before the fact of concentration rather than redistribution after the fact, but either way, liberals have an absolutely valid Biblical point regarding inequality of income, whether or not they mention the Bible. Interestingly, the prophet Nathan referred to that very principle of fairness when he relayed to David God’s own judgment on David’s sin. That was one of many Biblical passages that convinced me that the liberal position regarding inequality of income is closer to the Biblical view than the conservative position is. Also, there was the discovery that in the years since World War II, Democratic administrations have an edge over Republican administrations in regard to the economy. That discovery surprised me, but it was another lesson in how one should check out one’s assumptions, and not just blindly accept them because they seem reasonable.

Finally, let’s talk about that “Not Yours to Give” principle. It is based on a story about Tennessee Congressman David Crockett (yes, that Davy Crockett), and how he was taught by a wise old farmer in his home district that the Constitution does not allow for the giving of federal funds to any private individual. (The story contains some historical inaccuracies, but I will gloss over that and treat it as a parable.) Anybody who agrees with this interpretation of the Constitution will of course support every Congressional effort to cut back—and someday eliminate entirely—every form of welfare. That would include, for starters:

food stamps
unemployment benefits
disaster relief
Social Security
Medicare
etc.

The “Not Yours to Give” story does have a certain logic to it, but it is completely fallacious. First, it misreads the Constitution, and, second, it did not originate with Christian thinkers, but with secular fiscal conservatives. And yet the place where I first saw this story was in a Christian school history textbook published by a well-known fundamentalist publishing house. This no doubt somewhat explains why the story is so popular among conservative Christians. However, the publishing house in question is connected to a university that did not admit black applicants until 1972, and then only because it lost a federal equal rights lawsuit, and had to choose between either losing its non-profit tax status, or admitting black applicants. It should not be a surprise that a Christian source that can be so wrong in one area concerning Biblical ethics can also be wrong in another area.

My conclusion is that supporting secular government policies that provide material assistance to the poor is better than supporting policies that favor the rich to the detriment of the poor (concerning which the Apostle James also voiced a very strong opinion.) And that is why I now vote Democratic rather than Republican. Neither party is Christian, but the Republican Party is, on balance, further away from Biblical standards than the Democratic Party is, and I am OK with voting for the lesser evil.
Thank you for posting this! I was raised with the ideology you described. My father, a minister, taught us that the poor had essentially chosen their fate, and needed Christ, not hand-outs. He has since changed his thinking and tells me that when I was a child he saw that I had compassion for the poor, and saw it as a weakness! Looking back, it’s clear that my parents needed to look down on others in order to feel good about themselves.
 
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Even a cursory look at charities will show many are Christian. Habitat for Humanity, St. Judes, Salvation Army, Goodwill, etc. etc. My favorite is Mathew 25. Check out it's score at Charity Navigator. (I would also encourage those who are concerned about the poor consider donating.) I almost exclusively give to Christian charities, because they are able to leverage their services through volunteers. (Yes many Christians are willing to work for nothing!) So more of your donation goes directly to the cause.
 
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In a capitalist society/economy the streets are awash in capital. Sadly we have to work to obtain some of it. :(
And yet the people I know who work the hardest and the longest hours are among the poorest people I know:(
 
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And yet the people I know who work the hardest and the longest hours are among the poorest people I know:(

If they work 'long and hard' why are they poor?
 
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A lot of Americans are asking these days why so many Christians seem to believe that selfishness is virtuous, and that voting for lower taxes rather than greater care for others is a good thing. Even people with little or no knowledge of Christian teaching are vaguely aware that Christians are supposed to care about poor people. And they happen to be right. Many places in the Bible speak to this topic, both in the Old Testament and the New. In general, God encourages concern for the poor at all times. This fact ought to inform the way Christians vote regarding secular government, but it does not seem to.

Why not?

I think I know part of the reason, and I would like to share it for those who want to understand how conservative Christians think—especially Evangelical Christians who say that the Bible is the final authority for faith and practice—or else who are Christian themselves and who feel an urge to support government poverty relief but have been told that it would be unchristian to do so. No, it would not be unchristian. But let’s look at why so many Christian have come to believe that it is wrong.

First, let’s look at a few of those Bible passages, to establish the Christian starting point:

Proverbs 21:13 He who shuts his ear to the cry of the poor will also cry himself and not be answered.
Proverbs 28:27 He who gives to the poor will never want, but he who shuts his eyes will have many curses.
Proverbs 14:31 Whoever oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God.
Ephesians 4:28 He who steals must steal no longer; but rather he must labor, performing with his own hands what is good, so that he will have something to share with one who has need.
I John 3:17 But whoever has the world’s goods, and sees his brother in need and closes his heart against him, how does the love of God abide in him?

So how do Christians reason their way from a Biblical emphasis on helping the poor to a secular emphasis on “What’s mine is mine. . .keep your hands off!”?

First, there is ordinary human nature. Some degree of selfish motivation is universal because we are all descended from Adam, and Christians are not exempt from human nature.

Second, there obviously are some people who self-identify as “Christian” who are nothing of the sort, but I am not talking about them at all, so let’s move on to. . .

Third, there are rationalizations that are very convincing-sounding, even to a genuinely committed Christian. These are the rationalizations that I want to focus on, because I am familiar with them. The reason I am familiar with them is because I was taught them by Christians whom I respected, and, to my shame, I believed them for years. But I no longer believe them. Here is what I once believed, followed by how my understanding regarding those things has changed.

First, the faulty beliefs:

1) Equality of opportunity is important, but equality of results is nowhere promised in the Bible. It is no concern of mine if some people have the opportunity to do well, but fail because of their own faults.

2) “Welfare” programs are generally a bad idea because they do more harm than good, by fostering an attitude of dependency and encouraging laziness.

3) Most people who are poor get that way through their own irresponsibility. What they need is not a government program but a change in the way they personally approach life.

4) The best cure for poverty is a strong economy, and Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats are. “A rising tide lifts all boats.”

Later on I discovered one more rationalization I was not familiar with until after I began to question the above beliefs. Ironically, I first came across it while skimming through a Christian school history textbook published by a popular fundamentalist Christian publishing house. I will say more about “Not Yours to Give” a little further on.

Regarding those four basic beliefs, over time I began to see that I was simply mistaken about some of my assumptions, and I also had failed to take a lot of Bible principles into account. Seeing “the rest of the story” made a huge difference in my outlook. Here is what I ended up concluding:

1) True equality of opportunity has not yet arrived in America. My assumption was based on naïve “ivory tower” thinking that does not match reality. The majority of American poverty is not the result of people’s own poor performance on a level playing field.

2) The belief that welfare encourages laziness is another example of unverified “ivory tower” thinking. Just because a conclusion is reasonable does not make it factual, and just because it may in fact be true sometimes does not make it true all the time.

3) I came face to face with my own self-righteousness here. When I thought that other people’s poverty was usually caused by their own irresponsibility, what I was really saying to myself was, “Anybody who is not as good as I am at taking care of themselves is a moron who deserves to fail.” Pretty arrogant, no? Besides that, it is statistically simply not true that welfare usually goes to “undeserving” people. It turns out that a huge percentage of the unemployed population got that way through circumstances entirely outside of their control. When your employer “downsizes” you and then you simply cannot find another comparable job, that has nothing to do with bad personal habits.

4) Watching the economy in the early 2000s is what finally turned me against the “rising tide” principle, also known as “trickle-down economics.” A rising economic tide absolutely does not lift all boats. And it was reading all those conservative justifications for abolishing the minimum wage entirely that finally pushed me over the edge. Whereas I used to be in full agreement that “redistribution of wealth” was morally wrong, I now believe that the real problem is not redistribution of wealth, it is the ungodly concentration of wealth in the first place. I would prefer to see prevention before the fact of concentration rather than redistribution after the fact, but either way, liberals have an absolutely valid Biblical point regarding inequality of income, whether or not they mention the Bible. Interestingly, the prophet Nathan referred to that very principle of fairness when he relayed to David God’s own judgment on David’s sin. That was one of many Biblical passages that convinced me that the liberal position regarding inequality of income is closer to the Biblical view than the conservative position is. Also, there was the discovery that in the years since World War II, Democratic administrations have an edge over Republican administrations in regard to the economy. That discovery surprised me, but it was another lesson in how one should check out one’s assumptions, and not just blindly accept them because they seem reasonable.

Finally, let’s talk about that “Not Yours to Give” principle. It is based on a story about Tennessee Congressman David Crockett (yes, that Davy Crockett), and how he was taught by a wise old farmer in his home district that the Constitution does not allow for the giving of federal funds to any private individual. (The story contains some historical inaccuracies, but I will gloss over that and treat it as a parable.) Anybody who agrees with this interpretation of the Constitution will of course support every Congressional effort to cut back—and someday eliminate entirely—every form of welfare. That would include, for starters:

food stamps
unemployment benefits
disaster relief
Social Security
Medicare
etc.

The “Not Yours to Give” story does have a certain logic to it, but it is completely fallacious. First, it misreads the Constitution, and, second, it did not originate with Christian thinkers, but with secular fiscal conservatives. And yet the place where I first saw this story was in a Christian school history textbook published by a well-known fundamentalist publishing house. This no doubt somewhat explains why the story is so popular among conservative Christians. However, the publishing house in question is connected to a university that did not admit black applicants until 1972, and then only because it lost a federal equal rights lawsuit, and had to choose between either losing its non-profit tax status, or admitting black applicants. It should not be a surprise that a Christian source that can be so wrong in one area concerning Biblical ethics can also be wrong in another area.

My conclusion is that supporting secular government policies that provide material assistance to the poor is better than supporting policies that favor the rich to the detriment of the poor (concerning which the Apostle James also voiced a very strong opinion.) And that is why I now vote Democratic rather than Republican. Neither party is Christian, but the Republican Party is, on balance, further away from Biblical standards than the Democratic Party is, and I am OK with voting for the lesser evil.




Republicans give far more to charity than Democrats on average.

Republicans oppose the government taking the money of private citizens. Democrats want the government to have more power over our lives.

Democrats support immoral sexual practices, abortion, and the abolishment of religious life in all public spheres.

Your view is not supported by the facts.
 
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Why did Judas take thirty pieces of silver?

Because that was no small amount of money back then...

Substitute "SELFISHNESS" for ignorance and it will be nearer the truth.

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You mean the functions that religious charity and personal donations aren't doing, have never done, and arguably could never do at anywhere near the kind of scale we need them to be? Those functions?

I see lots of churches spending way more on their production and facilities budgets than they do on any sort of external needs-based charity.



It cut the poverty rate significantly:
War on poverty - Wikipedia

from your linked article

"It is important to note, however, that the steep decline in poverty rates began in 1959, 5 years before the introduction of the war on poverty "
 
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A lot of Americans are asking these days why so many Christians seem to believe that selfishness is virtuous, and that voting for lower taxes rather than greater care for others is a good thing. Even people with little or no knowledge of Christian teaching are vaguely aware that Christians are supposed to care about poor people. And they happen to be right. Many places in the Bible speak to this topic, both in the Old Testament and the New. In general, God encourages concern for the poor at all times. This fact ought to inform the way Christians vote regarding secular government, but it does not seem to.

Why not?

I think I know part of the reason, and I would like to share it for those who want to understand how conservative Christians think—especially Evangelical Christians who say that the Bible is the final authority for faith and practice—or else who are Christian themselves and who feel an urge to support government poverty relief but have been told that it would be unchristian to do so. No, it would not be unchristian. But let’s look at why so many Christian have come to believe that it is wrong.

First, let’s look at a few of those Bible passages, to establish the Christian starting point:

Proverbs 21:13 He who shuts his ear to the cry of the poor will also cry himself and not be answered.
Proverbs 28:27 He who gives to the poor will never want, but he who shuts his eyes will have many curses.
Proverbs 14:31 Whoever oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God.
Ephesians 4:28 He who steals must steal no longer; but rather he must labor, performing with his own hands what is good, so that he will have something to share with one who has need.
I John 3:17 But whoever has the world’s goods, and sees his brother in need and closes his heart against him, how does the love of God abide in him?

So how do Christians reason their way from a Biblical emphasis on helping the poor to a secular emphasis on “What’s mine is mine. . .keep your hands off!”?

First, there is ordinary human nature. Some degree of selfish motivation is universal because we are all descended from Adam, and Christians are not exempt from human nature.

Second, there obviously are some people who self-identify as “Christian” who are nothing of the sort, but I am not talking about them at all, so let’s move on to. . .

Third, there are rationalizations that are very convincing-sounding, even to a genuinely committed Christian. These are the rationalizations that I want to focus on, because I am familiar with them. The reason I am familiar with them is because I was taught them by Christians whom I respected, and, to my shame, I believed them for years. But I no longer believe them. Here is what I once believed, followed by how my understanding regarding those things has changed.

First, the faulty beliefs:

1) Equality of opportunity is important, but equality of results is nowhere promised in the Bible. It is no concern of mine if some people have the opportunity to do well, but fail because of their own faults.

2) “Welfare” programs are generally a bad idea because they do more harm than good, by fostering an attitude of dependency and encouraging laziness.

3) Most people who are poor get that way through their own irresponsibility. What they need is not a government program but a change in the way they personally approach life.

4) The best cure for poverty is a strong economy, and Republicans are better at managing the economy than Democrats are. “A rising tide lifts all boats.”

Later on I discovered one more rationalization I was not familiar with until after I began to question the above beliefs. Ironically, I first came across it while skimming through a Christian school history textbook published by a popular fundamentalist Christian publishing house. I will say more about “Not Yours to Give” a little further on.

Regarding those four basic beliefs, over time I began to see that I was simply mistaken about some of my assumptions, and I also had failed to take a lot of Bible principles into account. Seeing “the rest of the story” made a huge difference in my outlook. Here is what I ended up concluding:

1) True equality of opportunity has not yet arrived in America. My assumption was based on naïve “ivory tower” thinking that does not match reality. The majority of American poverty is not the result of people’s own poor performance on a level playing field.

2) The belief that welfare encourages laziness is another example of unverified “ivory tower” thinking. Just because a conclusion is reasonable does not make it factual, and just because it may in fact be true sometimes does not make it true all the time.

3) I came face to face with my own self-righteousness here. When I thought that other people’s poverty was usually caused by their own irresponsibility, what I was really saying to myself was, “Anybody who is not as good as I am at taking care of themselves is a moron who deserves to fail.” Pretty arrogant, no? Besides that, it is statistically simply not true that welfare usually goes to “undeserving” people. It turns out that a huge percentage of the unemployed population got that way through circumstances entirely outside of their control. When your employer “downsizes” you and then you simply cannot find another comparable job, that has nothing to do with bad personal habits.

4) Watching the economy in the early 2000s is what finally turned me against the “rising tide” principle, also known as “trickle-down economics.” A rising economic tide absolutely does not lift all boats. And it was reading all those conservative justifications for abolishing the minimum wage entirely that finally pushed me over the edge. Whereas I used to be in full agreement that “redistribution of wealth” was morally wrong, I now believe that the real problem is not redistribution of wealth, it is the ungodly concentration of wealth in the first place. I would prefer to see prevention before the fact of concentration rather than redistribution after the fact, but either way, liberals have an absolutely valid Biblical point regarding inequality of income, whether or not they mention the Bible. Interestingly, the prophet Nathan referred to that very principle of fairness when he relayed to David God’s own judgment on David’s sin. That was one of many Biblical passages that convinced me that the liberal position regarding inequality of income is closer to the Biblical view than the conservative position is. Also, there was the discovery that in the years since World War II, Democratic administrations have an edge over Republican administrations in regard to the economy. That discovery surprised me, but it was another lesson in how one should check out one’s assumptions, and not just blindly accept them because they seem reasonable.

Finally, let’s talk about that “Not Yours to Give” principle. It is based on a story about Tennessee Congressman David Crockett (yes, that Davy Crockett), and how he was taught by a wise old farmer in his home district that the Constitution does not allow for the giving of federal funds to any private individual. (The story contains some historical inaccuracies, but I will gloss over that and treat it as a parable.) Anybody who agrees with this interpretation of the Constitution will of course support every Congressional effort to cut back—and someday eliminate entirely—every form of welfare. That would include, for starters:

food stamps
unemployment benefits
disaster relief
Social Security
Medicare
etc.

The “Not Yours to Give” story does have a certain logic to it, but it is completely fallacious. First, it misreads the Constitution, and, second, it did not originate with Christian thinkers, but with secular fiscal conservatives. And yet the place where I first saw this story was in a Christian school history textbook published by a well-known fundamentalist publishing house. This no doubt somewhat explains why the story is so popular among conservative Christians. However, the publishing house in question is connected to a university that did not admit black applicants until 1972, and then only because it lost a federal equal rights lawsuit, and had to choose between either losing its non-profit tax status, or admitting black applicants. It should not be a surprise that a Christian source that can be so wrong in one area concerning Biblical ethics can also be wrong in another area.

My conclusion is that supporting secular government policies that provide material assistance to the poor is better than supporting policies that favor the rich to the detriment of the poor (concerning which the Apostle James also voiced a very strong opinion.) And that is why I now vote Democratic rather than Republican. Neither party is Christian, but the Republican Party is, on balance, further away from Biblical standards than the Democratic Party is, and I am OK with voting for the lesser evil.

Democrats advocate for selfishness as much if not more than Republicans do.
 
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If they work 'long and hard' why are they poor?
Low wage jobs coupled with astronomical cost of healthcare. In some cases, personal tragedy that has bankrupted them.
 
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I believe that it all comes down to what a person wants to do, and I believe that there are Christians who, despite what the Bible plainly says, just really don't want to "waste" their money on poor people.

Much of the money is 'wasted' on it's way to the poor, instead it enriches the agencies entrusted with aiding them. Why throw good money after bad.
 
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Substitute "SELFISHNESS" for ignorance and it will be nearer the truth.

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What is selfishness if not ignorance that one's actions affect others?
 
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Again, I do not understand where the question is coming from. Nothing I said leads to the asking of that question. Why, exactly, are you asking it?

You have advocated 'redistributing' the nations money, from the rich to the poor. If or when this should happen where would the capital come from to buy or do things that require a lot of money?

Also, where would the money come from if all wealth (not money itself but 'stuff') were sold and the money redistributed, considering that there isn't enough money to buy all the stuff the wealthy possess.

Also without fractional reserve banking where would new money come from for an expanding economy?
 
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You have advocated 'redistributing' the nations money, from the rich to the poor. If or when this should happen where would the capital come from to buy or do things that require a lot of money?
The same place it comes from in other capitalist economies with more robust safety nets than ours.
 
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What is selfishness if not ignorance that one's actions affect others?

That would be cluelessness or being oblivious not selfishness

Definition of SELFISHNESS

Definition of selfishness


: the quality or state of being selfish : a concern for one's own welfare or advantage at the expense of or in disregard of others : excessive interest in oneself.
 
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The same place it comes from in other capitalist economies with more robust safety nets than ours.

Maybe if the poor would stop doing drugs, or, sending money 'home', they would be better off. That's $100Billion each year easy.
 
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Maybe if the poor would stop doing drugs, or, sending money 'home', they would be better off. That's $100Billion each year easy.

"Woe to you who are poor, for surely thou hast done something to deserve it"

We just might have a new Beatitude...
 
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