Will the Levitical Priests make Sacrifices during the Millennial Reign?

HARK! said:

What other sacrifices?

It's not necessarily sin sacrifices that they will be making; unless the prophets specifically say sin sacrifices.

There are many different types of sacrifices: THE LEVITICAL OFFERINGS and SACRIFICES

Even if the prophets do say sin sacrifice; which type of sin sacrifice?

Were all sin sacrifices delegated to the High Priest only? Do you understand that it was the position of High Priest, and those duties of the High Priest, that were transferred to Yahshua? Do you understand that YHWH's covenant with Levi is eternal?

(CLV) Jer 33:18
As for the Levitical priests there shall not be cut off a man from before Me who offers up the ascent offering and fumes the approach present and offers sacrifices for all the days.

(CLV) Jer 33:20
Thus says Yahweh: If you could annul My covenant with the day and My covenant with the night so that daytime and night fail to come about in their proper time,

(CLV) Jer 33:21
then also My covenant could be annulled with David My servant, so that he should not come to have a son reigning on his throne, and that with the Levites, the priests, My ministers.

Your statement is ambiguous. Scripture is clear.

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One thing Hebrews 9 is not, is ambiguous.

I don't understand why you Jews can't understand that the old covenant is DEAD.

Davy said:

You don't understand the Power of God.

God's River of the Waters of Life are REAL. This was shown us early in Genesis 2, as God's River flowed out of His Garden of Eden to feed four other rivers upon the earth, two of which we still know their location on earth today (Euphrates and Tigris, or Hiddekel).

Likewise the River of the Waters of Life in Revelation 22 are REAL, and will manifest back on earth in the holy land, just as Ezekiel 47 also shows. The Tree of Life also is REAL, and will manifest on earth with that River. God said He created the earth to be inhabited, and He Himself once lived upon it, and in the world to come has promised to return to live among His faithful servants. This is why the last verse of Ezekiel 48 even shows the new name of the holy city will be "The LORD is there" (Yahaveh Shaamaah).

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Yes, Rev 21 and 22, come after the millennium, not before.

HARK! said:

That's not what my literal translation says:

(CLV) Jer 33:15
In those days and in that era I shall make sprout for David a Sprout of righteousness, Who will establish right judgment and justice in the land.

(CLV) Jer 33:16
In those days shall Judah be saved, And Jerusalem shall tabernacle in serenity, And this is what one shall call it: Yahweh, our Righteousness.

(CLV) Jer 33:17
For thus says Yahweh: There shall not be cut off a man of David's line from sitting on the throne of the house of Israel.

(CLV) Jer 33:18
As for the Levitical priests there shall not be cut off a man from before Me who offers up| the ascent offering and fumes the approach present and offers sacrifices for all the days.

I stopped reading; after I debunked your faulty premise.

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It is becoming obvious: it is the truth you are fighting with. You misrepresent what the inspired text is saying, and ignore it when others expose this. That is all you can do. The text forbids your error. That is why you are ducking around it. You are doing the exact same with many posters.

sovereigngrace said:

Your theology is so confusing. Can you first tell us: does your new earth arrive before or after your millennial kingdom?

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Why do you ask such a question?
The Bible is quite clear; the New Jerusalem comes to the new earth, AFTER the Millennium. Revelation 21:1-4

I am amazed at how people here fail to read and understand plainly stated scripture.
With the new Temple and the sacrifices and offerings, we have Isaiah 56:1-8 and Ezekiel 20:40-41, plus; that undeniably say there will be a new Temple that believers will make offerings in.
Denial of these scriptures is a denial of God's Word and is just the promotion of false theories and doctrines.

keras said:

Why do you ask such a question?
The Bible is quite clear; the New Jerusalem comes to the new earth, AFTER the Millennium. Revelation 21:1-4

I am amazed at how people here fail to read and understand plainly stated scripture.
With the new Temple and the sacrifices and offerings, we have Isaiah 56:1-8 and Ezekiel 20:40-41, plus; that undeniably say there will be a new Temple that believers will make offerings in.
Denial of these scriptures is a denial of God's Word and is just the promotion of false theories and doctrines.

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I wasn't asking you.

HARK! said:

You're repeating the obvious. This hasn't changed since the last time you made my point.



YHWH said it's eternal. I'll take his word over your speculation.

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The English word “for ever” (or “forever”) means everlasting or eternal. It means something that never ends. It denotes endless, ceaseless, perpetual, undying, unbroken, unending, and interminable.

Has Israel endlessly, without a break, maintained their strict temple sacrificial system and festival in compliance with the old covenant blueprint? No!!! It therefore doesn't meet the English meaning of “forever.” The very meaning of the Hebrew word interpreted forever (`owlam) forbids an eternal interpretation. So, what does the word `owlam mean?

Before going there, it is very useful (and sometimes necessary) to examine the root word of any Hebrew or Greek word in order to get a deeper sense of its meaning. In the case of the `owlam it would be helpful to our understanding to consider its origin. It derives from the Hebrew word `alam (Strong’s 5956) which means to veil, hide from sight or conceal.

This gives us the idea of ‘out of sight’.

Strong’s says: `owlam (o-lawm'); or `olam (o-lawm') means “properly, concealed, i.e. the vanishing point; generally, time out of mind (past or future).”

When referring to time, this word essentially means time out of sight. The sense of the word is basically beyond our view. It can relate to either the distant past or the distant future. Whilst the word does not necessarily mean eternity, it can refer to eternity. As one examines the various usages of this word in Scripture, one quickly grasps the truth of that it mainly refers to distant time.

Here we have concrete proof that this word carries a broader meaning than what many attribute to it. The “vanishing point” of any reality can refer to the past or the future. It can refer to distant reality. Whilst we could identify the word with eternity, no one with any understanding of the use of the word in the Old Testament could with any legitimacy rigidly restrict it to that.

HARK! said:

I stopped reading; after I debunked your faulty premise.

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It is clear to everyone here that you do not want to learn. You only seem to want to avoid and insult. You testify with your own tongue: "I'm not very strong in my prophecy studies."

sovereigngrace said:

Yes, Rev 21 and 22, come after the millennium, not before.

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Explain this then...

Rev 22:14-15
14 Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
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Jesus is referring back to the Millennial timing with that, since the wicked still exist there, and are outside the gates of the holy city (probably the "outer darkness").

Davy said:

Explain this then...

Rev 22:14-15
14 Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
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Jesus is referring back to the Millennial timing with that, since the wicked still exist there, and are outside the gates of the holy city (probably the "outer darkness").

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What? Where do you get that? There is no mention of your millennium there. It is long-finished by the time of the NHNE. Christ is the tree of life that we partake of through all eternity. There is no future millennium saturated in blood sacrifices, sin, rebellion, death, Satan and the wicked as the sand of the sea. That is a Premil invention.

Premils butcher text after text that makes absolutely no mention of a future millennium and steals it from its proper setting and dumped it into this imaginary Future millennium because they have zero corroboration for their doctrine.

sovereigngrace said:

What? Where do you get that? There is no mention of your millennium there. It is long-finished by the time of the NHNE. Christ is the tree of life that we partake of through all eternity. There is no future millennium saturated in blood sacrifices, sin, rebellion, death, Satan and the wicked as the sand of the sea. That is a Premil invention.

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I never mentioned the idea of sacrifices in the Millennium, nor afterwards.

Rev.22:14-15 is Millennial timing, not new heavens and new earth timing. How can we know that? Simple, the WICKED are destroyed immediately after the Millennium. Yet in Rev.22:15 there they still are, outside the gates of the holy city! That HAS to mean Millennial timing! And it means The Tree of Life is already there on earth, INSIDE the gates of the holy city.

Christ's future Millennial reign with His elect is going to START some changes on the earth. The return of God's River and The Tree of Life is one of them, and that Tree of Life and River that 'represents' Christ Jesus is actual REAL TOO. Ezekiel's vision in Ezekiel 47 about that River and the many trees on either side of it is given a SPECIFIC LOCATION on earth in the middle east. That is NOT spiritual, but PHYSICAL REALITY.

What you have been subjected to on this, probably most of your life, is a doctrine by those who don't understand this, and instead had to make up some slogans only loosely based on what our Lord Jesus taught on it.

Premils butcher text after text that makes absolutely no mention of a future millennium and steals it from its proper setting and dumped it into this imaginary Future millennium because they have zero corroboration for their doctrine.

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It's the OTHER WAY AROUND, because I showed you a LITERAL interpretation of the texts as they are written, while the doctrine of men you follow only tries to spiritualize it all away!

sovereigngrace said:

What? Where do you get that? There is no mention of your millennium there. It is long-finished by the time of the NHNE. Christ is the tree of life that we partake of through all eternity. There is no future millennium saturated in blood sacrifices, sin, rebellion, death, Satan and the wicked as the sand of the sea. That is a Premil invention.

Premils butcher text after text that makes absolutely no mention of a future millennium and steals it from its proper setting and dumped it into this imaginary Future millennium because they have zero corroboration for their doctrine.

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Evidently you never read this in The New Testament...

Matt 8:11-12
11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.

12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
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That's the location OUTSIDE THE GATES of the holy city as shown in Rev.22:15. That is Millennial timing, and where the wicked will be cast to.

Do you need a New Testament Bible?

Davy said:

I never mentioned the idea of sacrifices in the Millennium, nor afterwards.

Rev.22:14-15 is Millennial timing, not new heavens and new earth timing. How can we know that? Simple, the WICKED are destroyed immediately after the Millennium. Yet in Rev.22:15 there they still are, outside the gates of the holy city! That HAS to mean Millennial timing! And it means The Tree of Life is already there on earth, INSIDE the gates of the holy city.

Christ's future Millennial reign with His elect is going to START some changes on the earth. The return of God's River and The Tree of Life is one of them, and that Tree of Life and River that 'represents' Christ Jesus is actual REAL TOO. Ezekiel's vision in Ezekiel 47 about that River and the many trees on either side of it is given a SPECIFIC LOCATION on earth in the middle east. That is NOT spiritual, but PHYSICAL REALITY.

What you have been subjected to on this, probably most of your life, is a doctrine by those who don't understand this, and instead had to make up some slogans only loosely based on what our Lord Jesus taught on it.



It's the OTHER WAY AROUND, because I showed you a LITERAL interpretation of the texts as they are written, while the doctrine of men you follow only tries to spiritualize it all away!

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You literalize that which is symbolic (the book of Revelation) and spiritualize that which is literal. The opposite is the truth.

There are only two peoples recognized in the book of Revelation, as in the rest of Scripture. One inherits eternal bliss on the new glorified earth and the other inherits eternal torment in the lake of fire.

Rev 20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

Revelation 21:7-8: “He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”

Revelation 21:22-27: “And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it. And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.”

Revelation 22:14-15: “Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.”

Here, near the end of Revelation, God is simply summing up the whole unfolding narrative before us showing us the great division between darkness and light, death and life, the wicked on the righteous. They cannot cohabit in eternity.

Basically, He is saying, the wicked missed the boat.

Davy said:

Evidently you never read this in The New Testament...

Matt 8:11-12
11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.

12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
KJV

That's the location OUTSIDE THE GATES of the holy city as shown in Rev.22:15. That is Millennial timing, and where the wicked will be cast to.

Do you need a New Testament Bible?

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Rev 21-22 is after the millennium is over. You are obviously struggling for corroboration, if you need to steal Scripture from the NHNE and dump it into you supposed future millennium.

Davy said:

I never mentioned the idea of sacrifices in the Millennium, nor afterwards.

Rev.22:14-15 is Millennial timing, not new heavens and new earth timing. How can we know that? Simple, the WICKED are destroyed immediately after the Millennium. Yet in Rev.22:15 there they still are, outside the gates of the holy city! That HAS to mean Millennial timing! And it means The Tree of Life is already there on earth, INSIDE the gates of the holy city.

Christ's future Millennial reign with His elect is going to START some changes on the earth. The return of God's River and The Tree of Life is one of them, and that Tree of Life and River that 'represents' Christ Jesus is actual REAL TOO. Ezekiel's vision in Ezekiel 47 about that River and the many trees on either side of it is given a SPECIFIC LOCATION on earth in the middle east. That is NOT spiritual, but PHYSICAL REALITY.

What you have been subjected to on this, probably most of your life, is a doctrine by those who don't understand this, and instead had to make up some slogans only loosely based on what our Lord Jesus taught on it.



It's the OTHER WAY AROUND, because I showed you a LITERAL interpretation of the texts as they are written, while the doctrine of men you follow only tries to spiritualize it all away!

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Where exactly in Revelation 20 or anywhere else does it say that Christ will reign on earth for 1,000 years?

What will Christ be doing during that 1,000 years? Please list actual Scriptures.

Where is Christ in Satan's “little season”?

Davy said: ↑
I never mentioned the idea of sacrifices in the Millennium, nor afterwards.

Rev.22:14-15 is Millennial timing, not new heavens and new earth timing. How can we know that? Simple, the WICKED are destroyed immediately after the Millennium. Yet in Rev.22:15 there they still are, outside the gates of the holy city! That HAS to mean Millennial timing! And it means The Tree of Life is already there on earth, INSIDE the gates of the holy city.

Christ's future Millennial reign with His elect is going to START some changes on the earth. The return of God's River and The Tree of Life is one of them, and that Tree of Life and River that 'represents' Christ Jesus is actual REAL TOO. Ezekiel's vision in Ezekiel 47 about that River and the many trees on either side of it is given a SPECIFIC LOCATION on earth in the middle east. That is NOT spiritual, but PHYSICAL REALITY.

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sovereigngrace said:

Where exactly in Revelation 20 or anywhere else does it say that Christ will reign on earth for 1,000 years?

What will Christ be doing during that 1,000 years? Please list actual Scriptures.

Where is Christ in Satan's “little season”?

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Good question. Where indeed...........
An interesting thread on that topic at this link:

Rev. 20:4, No Mention of Physical Earthly Reign

katiemygirl said:

Revelation 20:4 says,

"...and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God,...and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years."

This passage says nothing about Jesus coming to this earth and establishing a worldly Kingdom at Jerusalem. Those that teach this are duty-bound to prove their doctrine with scripture.

Did you know that the phrase "thousand year reign of Christ" does not appear anywhere in scripture? Neither does the term "millenium." Yet, the doctrine is prevalent among so many denominations.

Where does this passage mention Christ's second coming?

Where does it mention a reign on earth?

Where does it mention Christ on earth?

Those who believe in a future earthly reign of Christ on earth for a thousand years make the same mistake that the Jews who crucified Christ made -- they were not satisfied with a spiritual Kingdom; they had to have a literal, worldly, physical Kingdom.

The truth of the matter is not that Christ will reign for a thousand years some time in the future, but that Christ is reigning now, and will continue to reign for eternity. We do not have to wait for His Kingdom to come sometime in the future before He starts reigning over our lives, for Christ's Kingdom is here now, and He desires that we reign with Him now, whether we choose to recognize it or not.

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Adamina said:

Good question. Where indeed...........
An interesting thread on that topic at this link:

Rev. 20:4, No Mention of Physical Earthly Reign

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If people question the earthly reign of Jesus and the final coming of God Himself to dwell with mankind, then they need to spend much more time carefully reading their Bible and NEVER making grossly wrong assertions, conjectures, suppositions, or wild guesswork.

Jesus said He would come again and the angels repeated it. Acts 1:11
The Bible says He will reign as King on the earth. Psalms 47:8, Psalms 97:1, Psalms 2:7-8, Revelation 19:6 And it will be Christians who will be His priests and co-rulers, Revelation 5:9-10, ON EARTH.

At the end of His 1000 year reign, Jesus will hand the Kingdom back to the Father, 1 Corinthians 15:24, and God will come to the earth for Eternity. Revelation 21:3

keras said:

If people question the earthly reign of Jesus and the final coming of God Himself to dwell with mankind, then they need to spend much more time carefully reading their Bible and NEVER making grossly wrong assertions, conjectures, suppositions, or wild guesswork.

Jesus said He would come again and the angels repeated it. Acts 1:11
The Bible says He will reign as King on the earth. Psalms 47:8, Psalms 97:1, Psalms 2:7-8, Revelation 19:6 And it will be Christians who will be His priests and co-rulers, Revelation 5:9-10, ON EARTH.

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Ok, so you are admitting that you have nothing in your only proof-text - Rev 20. Those other passage reinforce Amil, and make no allusion to a supposed future 1,000 years.

keras said:

All of Ezekiel 40 to 48 is prophecy about the time before Jesus Returns.

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Ezekiel 47:8 Then said he unto me, These waters issue out toward the east country, and go down into the desert, and go into the sea: which being brought forth into the sea, the waters shall be healed.
9 And it shall come to pass, that every thing that liveth, which moveth, whithersoever the rivers shall come, shall live: and there shall be a very great multitude of fish, because these waters shall come thither: for they shall be healed; and every thing shall live whither the river cometh.
10 And it shall come to pass, that the fishers shall stand upon it from Engedi even unto Eneglaim; they shall be a place to spread forth nets; their fish shall be according to their kinds, as the fish of the great sea, exceeding many.
11 But the miry places thereof and the marishes thereof shall not be healed; they shall be given to salt.
12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.

You clearly said all of Ezekiel 40 to 48 is prophecy about the time before Jesus Returns. That would have to include the above. So that means you must think the NHNE occurs before Jesus returns since verse 12 above is obviously meaning during the time of the NHNE. But isn't your position that the NHNE is after the millennium?