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HTasiana said, "Universalism is not taught by any of the original apostolic Churches. It is not a teaching of Christianity."
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Who is St Gregory? He is not my church father, and no more a saint than anyone else God calls the elect.
Perhaps Tasiana should have said, "...teaching of the Bible" instead of "...teaching of Christianity, so you could deal with her real point. The Bible is pretty clear that not everybody will avoid eternal condemnation. The OP's idea, or David Hart's, that our reason to object is 'For me to win, someone has to lose', sounds to me like he's crying, "you aren't being nice" when people disagree with him. (After all, if he can relegate my objections to mere emotion, I can do the same to his.)
The Bible teaches that the elect are of themselves no better than anyone else. (In fact, in places it almost sounds like the opposite is true, such as, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick.") The fact some escape the result of their sin is mere mercy of God, who laid the debt on his Son in their place.
His justice is precise and thorough. It does not ignore sin.
Now is that a little bit knee-jerkish?
St Gregory of Nyssa, for example, a church father and saint in both Eastern and Western traditions, was an ardent universalist.
Who is St Gregory? He is not my church father, and no more a saint than anyone else God calls the elect.
Perhaps Tasiana should have said, "...teaching of the Bible" instead of "...teaching of Christianity, so you could deal with her real point. The Bible is pretty clear that not everybody will avoid eternal condemnation. The OP's idea, or David Hart's, that our reason to object is 'For me to win, someone has to lose', sounds to me like he's crying, "you aren't being nice" when people disagree with him. (After all, if he can relegate my objections to mere emotion, I can do the same to his.)
The Bible teaches that the elect are of themselves no better than anyone else. (In fact, in places it almost sounds like the opposite is true, such as, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick.") The fact some escape the result of their sin is mere mercy of God, who laid the debt on his Son in their place.
His justice is precise and thorough. It does not ignore sin.
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