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I occasionally accidentally like something just scrolling past on my phone, so its always possible for it to have been a mistake.

Also, you may try to give one rating and accidentally hitting another - is there a negative rating next to the positive on Twitter? If so perhaps he was going for the negative.. I'm on a site where the red disagree button is next to the green agree button, and accidentally hitting the wrong one is a very real possibility.

You might like to keep an eye out, and see if this was just an anomaly... if so, if this isn't repeated behavior then it was likely an innocent mistake of some kind.
Yes, technology can be so hit and miss sometimes...
 
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I'm just curious where Christian's are scrolling past inappropriate contentography. I am on the net,yet never encounter it. I couldn't conceivably accidentally like it,because I'm not anywhere where it is.....?
Am I just being supernaturally protected,or what?
 
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Ask him. Say you checked out his Twitter page and there it was. See if his face gets beet red. Ask to see his boss too. It's a big deal.
I disagree. I think you are projecting some really strange prejudices to someone who simply liked one inappropriate content video.
Would it be wrong to send him an anonymous message that just said "I think your account got hacked, but if it didn't I would urge you to get help."
How about sending him an anonymous message that you disliked finding a like on a inappropriate content video without the judgmental "I would urge you to get help" nonsense?

In my opinion it is very unfortunate for that person that it was someone like you who found that like, but you can still help him by sending a message that is as non-judgmental as possible while notifying him of his mistake.
If he is using pron, he is in my opinion to weak to help other youth. In fact it is a spiritual danger, if he can not control his sexuality, who is to say he can control it when around young women.
I disagree here, too. While I do agree that there is some possibility of him being trash as a person, but there is no evidence of this just from him watching inappropriate content. Not all people who watch inappropriate content cannot control their lust.
 
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I'm just curious where Christian's are scrolling past inappropriate contentography. I am on the net,yet never encounter it. I couldn't conceivably accidentally like it,because I'm not anywhere where it is.....?
Am I just being supernaturally protected,or what?
The last time I encountered it, a few months ago now, I was going to a known Christian site using my phone and it popped up. I usually use my desktop for that site but this time I didn't. Shock. I notified the webmaster and they looked into it but I don't know the resolution. I haven't seen it after that so I suspect it's fixed. Point is, the inappropriate contentographers are pretty aggressive in spreading their pottage. It's highly addictive so they do have a chance of turning a random non-deliberate viewer into a paying customer.

On desktops and laptops it is fairly easy to filter inappropriate content out. The way I do it is to use OpenDNS and use their filtering option. It works well and is free. But as to phones it's a bit trickier and I obviously don't have it all the way figured out.
 
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Hi!

I'm brand new to the forum because I was looking for an anonymous place to ask my question. This seems to be a great community though and hopefully I'll stick around!

Here's my situation:

Recently I was bored... okay very bored... waiting in doctors office with nothing but my phone and started browsing twitter. I admit I was "stalking" my church youth / family minister on his Twitter page. (I was stalking others as well)

I just happened to look on his "likes" (like I said I was stalking his page) and... my church youth minister has "liked" (obviously accidental) a inappropriate contentographic (yes clearly inappropriate content, trust me on that) video on Twitter. The "like" is still there though its been a few days.

I was wondering if maybe he was hacked but in researching twitter that has never happened so I honestly don't think that's he case. There is probably more of a chance someone stole his phone and did that maliciously and he hasn't realized it. There is also a chance he was not hacked and he was watching the video and accidently pressed like.

What would you personally do in this situation?

I want to add that he a great youth minister.


I would tend to apply Matthew 18 in such a way that I would assume that his phone had been swiped and somebody liked the inappropriate content video to attempt to get him into trouble. I would go to him alone......... and let him know just you and him but..... the fact that you are a girl.... and he is a guy........ you might want to bring in a witness??????

Each set of circumstances is unique..... do you happen to know of anybody in the church who is noted for being exceptionally wise and could know what you know without telling other church members?

If not... then one of your options is to send him the link to this discussion to his personal e-mail...... from an anonymous e-mail........... and if he is innocent he may check his twitter and discover the problem.

If he was watching the video himself he would be unlikely to be so stupid as to hit "like."
 
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I would tend to apply Matthew 18 in such a way that I would assume that his phone had been swiped and somebody liked the inappropriate content video to attempt to get him into trouble. I would go to him alone......... and let him know just you and him but..... the fact that you are a girl.... and he is a guy........ you might want to bring in a witness??????
The obvious thing is to directly confront the person. Unless there is a sexual abuse policy for the church that is more stringent than that. See how he handles the issue; whether it passes the smell test.
If not... then one of your options is to send him the link to this discussion to his personal e-mail...... from an anonymous e-mail........... and if he is innocent he may check his twitter and discover the problem.
That's all well and good if it was some sort of 'innocent' mistake or hack or something. What if it's the one clue to a much deeper problem that will not otherwise be apparent for years, perhaps after many youth in the youth group have been abused? Not every cad is obviously a cad. Many are very skilled at hiding the worst of their character, for years even.

I think this has to be taken very seriously. This could be a totally innocent thing. Or the one bit of evidence which should start an investigation leading to this guy's removal. To let it slide is inadequate, even if in the end it is nothing. IMHO.
 
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The obvious thing is to directly confront the person. Unless there is a sexual abuse policy for the church that is more stringent than that. See how he handles the issue; whether it passes the smell test.
That's all well and good if it was some sort of 'innocent' mistake or hack or something. What if it's the one clue to a much deeper problem that will not otherwise be apparent for years, perhaps after many youth in the youth group have been abused? Not every cad is obviously a cad. Many are very skilled at hiding the worst of their character, for years even.

I think this has to be taken very seriously. This could be a totally innocent thing. Or the one bit of evidence which should start an investigation leading to this guy's removal. To let it slide is inadequate, even if in the end it is nothing. IMHO.


Your advice is better than mine!!!!!!

If this was a joke played on him..... by getting the problem out there...... the truth will come out........... and you are correct this could well be the one major clue that could indicate a much, much, much greater problem. Actually...... if the time and date of the "like" is available.... it could even come out who might attempt to have gotten him into trouble if..... that was what happened.
 
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Thank-you all for your responses. I know your time is valuable.

As of right now I still have not done anything and am indecisive I guess. Would it be wrong if I said nothing at all? Would it be wrong to send him an anonymous message that just said "I think your account got hacked, but if it didn't I would urge you to get help."
The "urge you to get help" part is a judgment, so I advise not to say that. I also wouldn't advise you to say "I think your account got hacked," because that is vague, and a conclusion to what you saw. It wouldn't solve anything, since he wouldn't know what to look for.

If you say anything, stick to just facts, like "I saw a 'like' on a inappropriate content video in your account." That's simply a fact, and you're not adding anything to it. If you do it to inform him of a risk of his reputation, then I would deem that a loving act. If someone saw that on my page, I'd certainly want to know about it so I could deal with it.
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I understand being straight forward in this but there is the possibility that someone else used his computer and did it



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As one
Or that he merely slipped up and left one clue to a dual life.
 
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If the pastor is innocent, ie clicked wrong while scrolling, or someone is messing with him/her, they need to be aware that its showing up in their like list to fix it. Doing nothing potentially puts him at risk at some point down the road...

If not innocent, which is possible, being that over 50% of evangelical pastors have a inappropriate content problem in the US (according to Christianity Today) he also needs to be aware its showing up in public. It might be just the step needed for him to get back on the right path.
 
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Hi!

I'm brand new to the forum because I was looking for an anonymous place to ask my question. This seems to be a great community though and hopefully I'll stick around!

Here's my situation:

Recently I was bored... okay very bored... waiting in doctors office with nothing but my phone and started browsing twitter. I admit I was "stalking" my church youth / family minister on his Twitter page. (I was stalking others as well)

I just happened to look on his "likes" (like I said I was stalking his page) and... my church youth minister has "liked" (obviously accidental) a inappropriate contentographic (yes clearly inappropriate content, trust me on that) video on Twitter. The "like" is still there though its been a few days.

I was wondering if maybe he was hacked but in researching twitter that has never happened so I honestly don't think that's he case. There is probably more of a chance someone stole his phone and did that maliciously and he hasn't realized it. There is also a chance he was not hacked and he was watching the video and accidently pressed like.

What would you personally do in this situation?

I want to add that he a great youth minister.

Let him know.
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If it was intentional AND as you flamboyantly admit, you have such an interest in him that you have been stalking him, if you privately meet with him, what do you think will happen? Hint: lit match dropped in dynamite. Only it would be worse as a lot more than just things would be destroyed.
 
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