Army Officer Who Heard Trump’s Ukraine Call Reported Concerns

Gigimo · Nov 3, 2019

stevil said:
Not really idealists, most people are moderate, and just get on with their lives.

A good portion of us would love to just be able to get on with our lives and be left alone but one political party and it's followers want to play identity politics, be SJW and stir the racial pot. Needless to say the silliness is pervading into all ways of everybody's life and it's getting very tiresome :sleep:

A_Thinker · Nov 3, 2019

Gigimo said:
A good portion of us would love to just be able to get on with our lives and be left alone but one political party and it's followers want to play identity politics, be SJW and stir the racial pot. Needless to say the silliness is pervading into all ways of everybody's life and it's getting very tiresome

So then ... no love for one's neighbors ???

Gigimo · Nov 3, 2019

A_Thinker said:
So then ... no love for one's neighbors ???

You call what I described as love :doh:

All my neighbors except for one seem to be fine he/she is constantly calling the Sheriff reporting all kinds of things that aren't really problems. About a week ago the Sheriff showed up asking questions about folks hearing gunfire in the plat, needless to say nobody did. There is a firing range a couple miles from here and someone is usually out practicing. They just happened to start up again when the Sheriff was asking me if I heard anything, and I said I imagine that is what you were needlessly called out here for.

A_Thinker · Nov 3, 2019

Gigimo said:
You call what I described as love

All my neighbors except for one seem to be fine he/she is constantly calling the Sheriff reporting all kinds of things that aren't really problems. About a week ago the Sheriff showed up asking questions about folks hearing gunfire in the plat, needless to say nobody did. There is a firing range a couple miles from here and someone is usually out practicing. They just happened to start up again when the Sheriff was asking me if I heard anything, and I said I imagine that is what you were needlessly called out here for.

Christ demonstrated that our neighbor was anyone we encountered who was in need, right ???

Luke 10

25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?

26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?

27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbor as thyself.

28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.

29 But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbor?

30 And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.

31 And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.

32 And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side.

33 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,

34 And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.

35 And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatever you spend more, when I come again, I will repay thee.

36 Which now of these three, think you, was a neighbor unto him that fell among the thieves?

37 And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.

DaisyDay · Nov 3, 2019

Gigimo said:
A good portion of us would love to just be able to get on with our lives and be left alone but one political party and it's followers want to play identity politics, be SJW and stir the racial pot. Needless to say the silliness is pervading into all ways of everybody's life and it's getting very tiresome

Nah, all parties are about identity politics. What would a party be without an identity?

stevil · Nov 3, 2019

Gigimo said:
A good portion of us would love to just be able to get on with our lives and be left alone but one political party and it's followers want to play identity politics, be SJW and stir the racial pot. Needless to say the silliness is pervading into all ways of everybody's life and it's getting very tiresome

I just looked up "sjw" do you mean Social Justice Warrior?
Social justice warrior - Wikipedia

How is promotion of feminism, civil rights, and multiculturalism considered stirring the racial pot?
Wouldn't feminism, civil rights and multiculturalism be considered as improving diversity and creating of an inclusive society? Wouldn't this be a good thing?

A_Thinker · Nov 3, 2019

stevil said:
Wouldn't feminism, civil rights and multiculturalism be considered as improving diversity and creating of an inclusive society? Wouldn't this be a good thing?

Not to everyone.

Some people want to be free not to consider others ...

KCfromNC · Nov 3, 2019

rjs330 said:
The economy is amazing. Incomes are up for everyone. Our unemployment rate is so low that almost everyone who wants a job has a job.

And despite that a majority are still in favor of impeachment.

KCfromNC · Nov 3, 2019

Gigimo said:
(Not even close to the actual voter breakdown but whatever you got to do to sway public opinion right)

Yeah, way too many GOP voters for that to be accurate. You think it will get better for Donald if they are removed?

By the way where do you sign up to get the daily talking points from both parties via email

To get them from the RNC, you just need to be part of congressional leadership - White House Sends Impeachment Talking Points to Democrats, Then Tries to Recall Them

iluvatar5150 · Nov 3, 2019

Gigimo said:
A good portion of us would love to just be able to get on with our lives and be left alone but one political party and it's followers want to play identity politics, be SJW and stir the racial pot. Needless to say the silliness is pervading into all ways of everybody's life and it's getting very tiresome

You're right - that one party that's openly appealed to self-righteous white evangelicals for the last ~40 years certainly does get tiresome after a while.

stevil · Nov 3, 2019

A_Thinker said:
Not to everyone.

Some people want to be free not to consider others ...

Would it be correct to assume that a significant segment of Republican supporters are white male Christians (and their wives and kids) and they like that USA currently offers advantages towards white male Christians(they probably would take offense to pointing this out though) and that they see it as a huge threat if USA is to embrace other cultures and races or to give other religions or non religions equal time.

So they oppose change, they oppose multiculturalism, oppose feminism, oppose immigration and want laws to restrict abortion, to put prayer back into school, to remove evolution from schools, to put mention of "God" and the bible back into courts and places of power, such as congress and the such.

This would be the very definition of identity politics. To address these concerns for the benefit of only the white male Christians. It seems to me that since Trump became president he has continued only trying to appeal to his base, not at all trying to be a president to all.

Kentonio · Nov 3, 2019

The saddest thing is that these issues of equality wouldn’t cheap their lives in the slightest. Every hour spent furiously denouncing ‘sjw’s’ and ‘liberals’ and ‘feminists’ is an hour thrown away. They take nothing away from conservatives lives, so why so much time is wasted hating them will never cease to confuse me.

stevil · Nov 3, 2019

Kentonio said:
The saddest thing is that these issues of equality wouldn’t cheap their lives in the slightest. Every hour spent furiously denouncing ‘sjw’s’ and ‘liberals’ and ‘feminists’ is an hour thrown away. They take nothing away from conservatives lives, so why so much time is wasted hating them will never cease to confuse me.

Isn't it feed by the desire to have a Republican government?
From what I've seen of USA politics is that the focus is more on smear, hate and fear of the opposition rather than actual policies and details of those policies.
Politics is generally boring stuff, but if people are fearful they will get up off their lazy bums and vote.

A_Thinker · Nov 3, 2019

stevil said:
Would it be correct to assume that a significant segment of Republican supporters are white male Christians (and their wives and kids) and they like that USA currently offers advantages towards white male Christians(they probably would take offense to pointing this out though) and that they see it as a huge threat if USA is to embrace other cultures and races or to give other religions or non religions equal time.

It's not quite that simple.

There is a movement to maintain the dominant culture here, and that culture is primarily white, male-dominated, and capitalistic.

But it is primarily driven by a selfish desire to hoard resources to oneself.

Gigimo · Nov 4, 2019

stevil said:
I just looked up "sjw" do you mean Social Justice Warrior?
Social justice warrior - Wikipedia

How is promotion of feminism, civil rights, and multiculturalism considered stirring the racial pot?
Wouldn't feminism, civil rights and multiculturalism be considered as improving diversity and creating of an inclusive society? Wouldn't this be a good thing?

You forgot to list identity politics which is used to be divisive not inclusive and consequently stirs the racial pot. This tactic is effective only if people pay attention to it or subscribe to it, luckily most people don't.

iluvatar5150 · Nov 4, 2019

Gigimo said:
You forgot to list identity politics which is used to be divisive not inclusive and consequently stirs the racial pot. This tactic is effective only if people pay attention to it or subscribe to it, luckily most people don't.

In the US, White Christian men have been engaging in identity politics longer and more vociferously than any other group.

Zanting · Nov 4, 2019

KCfromNC said:
And despite that a majority are still in favor of impeachment.

According to which fake poll...fox or cnn...??? because they sure do vary with some polls reaching as high as 75% against impeachment of the POTUS.

KCfromNC · Nov 4, 2019

Zanting said:
According to which fake pol

No, according to real polls.

A_Thinker · Nov 4, 2019

Zanting said:
because they sure do vary with some polls reaching as high as 75% against impeachment of the POTUS.

Which poll is that ?

trunks2k · Nov 4, 2019

Kentonio said:
They take nothing away from conservatives lives, so why so much time is wasted hating them will never cease to confuse me.

Some people reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeallllly want to say the n-word.

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