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i guess i only saw "Christian Forum" and thought it was for Christians to come together and rejoice and lick our wounds and to encourage the lost to find Christ.

Lots of people try to encourage us, but more often than not it seems to have the opposite effect.
 
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Because I no longer subscribe to the overarching
narrative requiring a belief in the devil.
the devil would be happy you don't believe in him. the more people who don't the more he can cause chaos without detection.
 
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don't you want to be on the safe side and believe Christ is your savior?

I would hope your god cares more about sincerity of belief than hedging my bets.
But Pascal's Wager was never very compelling.
 
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I would hope your god cares more about sincerity of belief than hedging my bets.
But Pascal's Wager was never very compelling.

It's funny I recently stumbled on a chart that elucidates how ridiculous Pascal's Wager is in practice, I share it now to the benefit of onlookers:

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I would hope your god cares more about sincerity of belief than hedging my bets.
But Pascal's Wager was never very compelling.
so you would rather not believe God exists and find out He does rather than believe in God and find out He doesn't?
 
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so you would rather not believe God exists and find out He does rather than believe in God and find out He doesn't?

Oh, I do believe in god(s), just not the same one as you.
 
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i guess i only saw "Christian Forum" and thought it was for Christians to come together and rejoice and lick our wounds and to encourage the lost to find Christ.
What kinds of wounds are being licked by Christians?
 
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there's only 1 true God. the others are wannabes.

Would you rather not believe in my gods and find out they do exist or believe in them and find out that they don't? :)
 
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the devil would be happy you don't believe in him. the more people who don't the more he can cause chaos without detection.
The funny thing is, the chaos has decreased in my life since I've
given up obsessing over demons and devils around every corner.
If he exists, he thrives on the attention he gets. He vanishes
when that attention is taken away.
 
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The funny thing is, the chaos has decreased in my life since I've
given up obsessing over demons and devils around every corner.
If he exists, he thrives on the attention he gets. He vanishes
when that attention is taken away.
Helen Keller said it best:

"It is wonderful how much time good people spend
fighting the devil. If they would only expend the same
amount of energy loving their fellow men, the devil
would die in his own tracks of ennui."


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i hope this is in the right category.

do you believe the devil is working toward a new world order where Christianity is wiped out?

If I, as a non-Christian, answered no - would you consider me part of the global conspiracy?
And yeah, my answer is no, obviously. Not only do I not believe in the existence of the devil or other supernatural agents, I also consider conspiracy theories of this sort to be a pathetic descendants of an old anti-semitic propaganda piece, the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", forged in Russia in the early 1900s.

By the way, shouldn't CHRISTIANS be the ones pushing for a One World? Nationalism strikes me as the virtual antithesis of Christianity's mission.
 
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I come from the perspective that first there's Jesus Christ. And than over there is Christianity. And it's only occasionally, I believe, that they cross paths. So I'm already there where I believe that we are being pushed to something other than Christ.
 
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Tbh I thought the whole UN New World Order conspiracy was a little passe; like it's practically ancient news for wild conspiracy theories the same way everyone just like the whole "barcodes are the mark of the beast" thing that evangelicals beat on but nothing happened and we all just let that one slide on by too, lol.
 
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