Can God do Evil?

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I think this article does a great job at addressing that question:

------>In Isaiah 54:16, God explains why the flood came upon the earth. Using the imagery of “the blacksmith who blows the coals in the fire” God says, “I have created the spoiler to destroy” (Isaiah 54:16).

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The Hebrew word translated as “spoiler” is the Hiphil participle from shachat. It could also be translated as “the destroyer” (cf. NAS, NIV, NET). More interestingly still, the Hiphil participle of shachat is also used in Genesis 6:13 and 17 in reference to the destruction that came upon the earth. By using such imagery, God explains why the flood came upon the earth: it came because the destroyer destroys. This is the fourth principle of the Chaos Theory.

But what does it mean when the text say that God created the destroyer to destroy? Is not the destroyer opposed to all that is good and Godly? Yes! God is not a destroyer, but a Creator. Nor does God “send” the destroyer to destroy. The destroyer destroys because he is a destroyer. And since everything that exists has it origin in God, it can be said that God created the destroyer. This idea is troubling to some, but note carefully how God explains this.

How the Destroyer Came to Be
Before God mentions that He created the destroyer, God says that He created the blacksmith (Isaiah 54:16a). The blacksmith blows on the coals and brings forth the instruments for his work. Though God created the blacksmith, it is the blacksmith who does his work and brings forth the tools and instruments from his forge.

While many tools that come off a blacksmith forge are used for good purposes, some blacksmiths create tools and instruments that can be used for evil. Sometimes, an instrument or tool which the blacksmith created for good could be used to cause great harm to others. Take a knife, for instance. If a blacksmith makes a knife to cut vegetables, but someone else uses it to kill humans, it is not the knife’s fault, the blacksmith’s fault for making the knife, or even God’s fault for making the blacksmith.

This is how to understand the statement by God in Isaiah 54:16b that He created the destroyer. It is not that God was out for bloody revenge, or because God wanted someone else to do His dirty work for Him. The destroyer is not God’s super-secret hit man who does what needs to be done so God can keep His hands clean.

No, Scripture is clear. When God creates, He only creates good things for good purposes. There is no evil intent in the heart of God.
The destroyer was not created to be evil, or to do bad things. In fact, it might be best to realize that the destroyer was never created at all as “the destroyer.” Just as God did not create humanity sinful, but we became sinful through our rebellion, so also the destroyer became destructive, also as a result of rebellion.

Death, decay, and destruction are the natural consequence of disobeying God and going against His will. The only way that God can be said to have created the destroyer is by saying that He created a being with genuine free will, and in so doing, restricted Himself from intervening when that free being chose to depart from God’s perfect will.

God did not make or create death and destruction, but did allow for their possibility when He created life and gave freedom to His creation.

It is the same with human beings.~The Flood According to Isaiah 54:7-9
 
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I'm going somewhere with this.....but for now.....yes or no.

Can God do Evil?

No. Even if it appears to be evil from a human perspective (such as destroying people in the Old Testament), God's actions are justified because He is a just God. We don't always know His thoughts.
 
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Can God do Evil?
God can not do evil. Evil is the opposite of God. The first letter of the word Evil is Vav and this can be used to reverse what follows. Even Vav can reverse time. We first see the word Evil when we read about the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. While there are many variations on this word, in its original form it is only used 7 times to indicate a reversal of unity. This is based on what our eyes can see.

In Isaiah 45:7 we see a variation of this word without the first letter VAV. God takes responsibility because He allows Evil. This is the only way we can have free will. We have the ability to act independent of the will of God.
 
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What God does is good by definition, "good" is defined by God's action, and evil is by His definition.

It is important to understand that there is no standard of morality greater than God that He is supposed to adhere to. If that were the case, that standard would be God and God would be its servant.

If it feels like evil to us, it's because we don't understand His end good, and we think our morality is greater than His.
 
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Even if it appears to be evil from a human perspective
The last letter of the word evil involved the eyes and what we can see. This is represented by the letter Y where the two eyes are joined to the brain with one optic nerve.
 
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I'm going somewhere with this.....but for now.....yes or no.

Can God do Evil?


Yes. It's known as a natural evil as opposed to a moral evil.

1 Kings 22:23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.
 
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It is interesting that God has killed more people in the world than anyone else. It is estimated that possibly up to 100 million people were wiped out in the Flood, and multitudes were killed when Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. Because He never does anything without a valid and righteous reason, it is good to explore that reason, rather than ask the unanswerable question: How can a God of love kill so many people and send them straight to hell? And when you think about it, all the pagan nations who worshiped idols, including the Ninevites, Persians, Assryians, Greeks, Romans, and Egyptians, plus all the Far Eastern peoples - all who never had faith in Christ - billions of them - are all in hell awaiting judgment and condemnation.

This just confirms the truth - that those who do not have faith in Christ are going to be lost, because the Bible is quite clear - that Christ is the only way to salvation.
 
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God would be its servant.
God is a servant in that He is infinite and we are finite. So He has to bow down or express Himself in a way that we can comprehend or understand. Jesus is everything we can understand about God and He came to be a servant. In the same way we are to sacrifice our self for the sake of others. ""If you knew Me, you would know My Father as well." (John8:19)
 
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It is interesting that God has killed more people in the world than anyone else.
Ultimately no one has come out alive, except for maybe Enoch and Elijah. "For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, abound to the many!" Romans 5:14

Did God "kill" people or is this the result of the trespass of one man: Adam?
 
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Can God do Evil?
Sorry. Define "evil" and define "do". When we know God as he is, it is not a complicated question.....but for now.....define.
 
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Isaiah 45:7 (KJV)
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
"Evil" in that passage refers not to sin and its associate, evil, but to hard things --catastrophe, heartbreak, disease, etc.
 
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Ultimately no one has come out alive, except for maybe Enoch and Elijah. "For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, abound to the many!" Romans 5:14

Did God "kill" people or is this the result of the trespass of one man: Adam?
The Bible clearly gives the reasons for why He drowned millions of people in the Flood, and burned up all the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah.
 
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<OS>It is interesting that God has killed more people in the world than anyone else. It is estimated that possibly up to 100 million people were wiped out in the Flood, and multitudes were killed when Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. Because He never does anything without a valid and righteous reason, it is good to explore that reason, rather than ask the unanswerable question: How can a God of love kill so many people and send them straight to hell? And when you think about it, all the pagan nations who worshiped idols, including the Ninevites, Persians, Assryians, Greeks, Romans, and Egyptians, plus all the Far Eastern peoples - all who never had faith in Christ - billions of them - are all in hell awaiting judgment and condemnation.
This just confirms the truth - that those who do not have faith in Christ are going to be lost, because the Bible is quite clear - that Christ is the only way to salvation
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However,
Romans 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
Romans 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
 
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"Evil" in that passage refers not to sin and its associate, evil, but to hard things --catastrophe, heartbreak, disease, etc.


Not according to the Hebrew wording and meanings...it says evil in the Hebrew...the masculine form of Ra to be specific.
 
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If God did an evil thing...it would become good. If He said a lie, it would immediately manifest and become true. He is truth, and all He says comes to pass.
 
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