Where is the Evidence of a Gap in the 70 weeks of Dan 9?

Is there a "gap" in the 70 weeks of Daniel 9"


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Anyone find Jesus answer to Peter in Matthew 18:21-22 interesting?

21 Then Peter came and said to Him, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? Up to seven times?
22 Jesus *said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven.

On this passage, I think Jesus is modeling His sacrifice for sin and the 490 years of Daniel. Even though the 70 weeks of years are not fully complete, Jesus' sacrifice comes in the middle of the 70th week!
 
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Can you show us the mortals that remain alive on the planet at the end of Matthew 25:31-46?
Can you explain how mortals will survive the "flaming fire" found in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10?


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BAB....You can discuss the "Rapture" on this thread:

RAPTURE!! OR LEFT BEHIND????

Firstly i am a believer in the rapture just so that you all know, but believing in such an event and having an expectation of GOING UP and leaving this rotten sin infested world and my FLESH behind is a deep craving within me, and yet my heart still aches for all those that will be LEFT BEHIND that will suffer at the hands of THOSE IN THE WORLD and THE ANTICHRIST and HIS FALSE PROPHET. I desire to leave A LEGACY to THOSE left behind, especially THOSE that are LED here by God, A LEGACY of A SAFE PLACE to SURVIVE the great tribulation. ALL christians that do GO UP in the rapture will take NOTHING with them when THEY are TRANSFORMED from flesh to spirit, so WHY not LEAVE A LEGACY of SORTS for those left behind ESPECIALLY FAMILY and friends. such as BIBLES/ FOOD/WATER/ TRACTS/ or even A MAP of WHERE such THINGS can BE FOUND???? i am sure God must have placed such a dream or vision in THE HEARTS of other believers also????
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Anyone find Jesus answer to Peter in Matthew 18:21-22 interesting?

21 Then Peter came and said to Him, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? Up to seven times?
22 Jesus *said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven.

On this passage, I think Jesus is modeling His sacrifice for sin and the 490 years of Daniel. Even though the 70 weeks of years are not fully complete, Jesus' sacrifice comes in the middle of the 70th week!
Yes, and very interesting indeed. Thks for posting that
Sounds similar to Genesis 4:24

Strong's Concordance with Hebrew and Greek Lexicon

"seventy"
occurs 97 times in 96 verses in the NKJV.

OT

1st time used

Gen 4:24 If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, Then Lamech seventy-sevenfold.”

Last time used:

Zec 7:5
“Say to all the people of the land, and to the priests: ‘When you fasted and mourned in the fifth and seventh months during those seventy years, did you really fast for Me—for Me?
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Used in only 3 verses of the Gospels:

Mat 18:22
Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven.

Luk 10:1
After these things the Lord appointed seventy others also, and sent them two by two before His face into every city and place where He Himself was about to go.
Luk 10:17
Then the seventy returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.”
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Some interesting info on the number 70 used in the Bible:
https://www.[bless and do not curse.../bibleref/meaning-of-numbers-in-bible/70.html

The Meaning of Numbers: The Number 70
Seventy has a sacred meaning in the Bible that is made up of the factors of two perfect numbers, seven (representing perfection) and ten (representing completeness and God's law). As such, it symbolizes perfect spiritual order carried out with all power. It can also represent a period of judgment.

Seventy (70) elders were appointed by Moses (Numbers 11:16). After reading the covenant God gave him to read to the people, Moses took 70 elders, along with Aaron and his sons, up Mount Sinai to have a special meal with God himself (Exodus 24:9 - 11)!

Ancient Israel spent a total number of 70 years in captivity in Babylon (Jeremiah 29:10). Seventy is also specially connected with Jerusalem. The city kept 70 years of Sabbaths while Judah was in Babylonian captivity (Jeremiah 25:11). Seventy sevens (490 years) were determined upon Jerusalem for it to complete its transgressions, to make an end for sins and for everlasting righteousness to enter into it (Daniel 9:24).
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Biblical significance of number seventy

Seventy has a stunning meaning in the Bible. The word “seventy” is used 56 times in the Holy Bible. The number seventy (70) is made up of two numbers — seven, representing perfection and ten representing completeness and God’s law. One may wonder, why the Holy Bible is saturated with the number seven and with multiples of seven like the number seventy. This is indeed a Biblical mathematical phenomenon that remains a mystery to this day. What is true, however, is that seven is God’s favorite number. The proof? The Holy Bible. Throughout the Bible (Genesis to Revelation) the number seven appears many times. Seven is used 735 times in the Holy Bible. In the Book of Revelation, seven is used 54 times. The word “seventh” is used 98 times while the word “sevenfold” appears seven times.

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Let me share some instances in the Holy Bible where the number seventy is mentioned:

  • After the flood, the world was repopulated through seventy descendants of Noah.
  • In the Book of Jeremiah 25:11-12, the Israelites were exiled in Babylon for seventy years.
  • In Matthew 18:21-22, Jesus said to forgive seventy times seven.
  • In Numbers 11:16, Moses appointed seventy elders of Israel and brought them to the tabernacle of the congregation.
  • In Exodus 24:9-11, Moses took seventy of the elders of Israel together with Aaron, and his sons went up Mount Sinai and ate and drank with God himself. This tribunal of seventy elders was eventually called the Sanhedrin. The Sanhedrin was the ancient Jewish court system.
  • In Luke 10, seventy disciples were sent out by Christ on a “training mission” to preach the Gospel to the surrounding area.
  • In Exodus 1:5, a total of seventy Israelites, the offspring of Jacob, went down to Egypt and started the Jewish population in Egypt which later swelled to over two million by the time of Exodus;
  • In the Book of Matthew and in the other books of the Bible (Luke, John, Mark), there are at least seventy parables during the ministry of Jesus Christ;
  • In the Book of Daniel 9:24, “seventy weeks are determined upon Jerusalem and its people to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins and to make reconciliation for integrity and to bring an everlasting righteousness and to seal up the vision and prophecy.”
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Hello. How is this related to the topic of this thread?

There are a plethora of Millennial threads on CF..........

https://www.google.com/search?q=mil...iqwKHZciCLQQrQIoBDAAegQICBAN&biw=1366&bih=626

Eschatological and Millennial Theories and their problems.
the apostate portion of Israel is shown entering into a covenant with Death? Who is the Angel of Death and when did he and the apostate portion of Israel enter into that covenant.
they will be injuredAJ)'> and snared and captured.AK)'>

14 Therefore hear the word of the Lord,AL)'> you scoffersAM)'>
who rule this people in Jerusalem.
15 You boast, “We have entered into a covenant with death,AN)'>
with the realm of the dead we have made an agreement.
When an overwhelming scourge sweeps by,AO)'>
it cannot touch us,
for we have made a lieAP)'> our refuge
and falsehoodb]' data-fn="#fen-NIV-18180b">[b] our hiding place.AQ)'>”

16 So this is what the Sovereign Lord says:

“See, I lay a stone in Zion,AR)'> a tested stone,AS)'>
a precious cornerstone for a sure foundation;AT)'>
the one who relies on it
will never be stricken with panic.AU)'>
17 I will make justiceAV)'> the measuring line
and righteousness the plumb line;AW)'>
hailAX)'> will sweep away your refuge, the lie,
and water will overflowAY)'> your hiding place.
18 Your covenant with death will be annulled;
your agreement with the realm of the dead will not stand.AZ)'>
When the overwhelming scourge sweeps by,BA)'>
you will be beaten downBB)'> by it.
19 As often as it comes it will carry you away;BC)'>
morning after morning,BD)'> by day and by night,
it will sweep through.”

The understanding of this message
will bring sheer terror.BE)'>

we find that these things happen when the Lord returns to carry his strange work, judgment.

Heading out to lake for the week with family will answer as often as possible. thanks for the discussions and in this case patience
 
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Vicky gould said:
I read many different commentators from J Vernon McGee to Arthur Pink and have not found any mainstream commentators who do not see and understand that this passage after the Messiah is cutoff is about anti-Christ whose times and actions begins to be laid out in much greater detail.
jgr said:
Therein lies the problem. You will notice that both of those commentators, and doubtless any others whom you've referenced, are all post-18th-century. They do not reflect historical Christian prophetic understanding.
Vicky gould said:
the Millennial Reign of Christ.
LittleLambofJesus said:
Hello. How is this related to the topic of this thread?

There are a plethora of Millennial threads on CF..........
the apostate portion of Israel is shown entering into a covenant with Death? Who is the Angel of Death and when did he and the apostate portion of Israel enter into that covenant.
Heading out to lake for the week with family will answer as often as possible. thanks for the discussions and in this case patience
Hello Vicky. How does that relate to the topic of the 70 weeks? Please start a thread on that......
Enjoy your week at the lake............
 
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Therein lies the problem. You will notice that both of those commentators, and doubtless any others whom you've referenced, are all post-18th-century. They do not reflect historical Christian prophetic understanding.

Instead, consider one of the earliest defenders of the faith:

Clement of Alexandria (150 - 215 AD)

From the captivity at Babylon, which took place in the time of Jeremiah the prophet, was fulfilled what was spoken by Daniel the prophet as follows: "Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people, and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to seal sins, and to wipe out and make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal the vision and the prophet, and to anoint the Holy of Holies. Know therefore, and understand, that from the going forth of the word commanding an answer to be given, and Jerusalem to be built, to Christ the Prince, are seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; and the street shall be again built, and the wall; and the times shall be expended. And after the sixty-two weeks the anointing shall be overthrown, and judgment shall not be in him; and he shall destroy the city and the sanctuary along with the coming Prince. And they shall be destroyed in a flood, and to the end of the war shall be cut off by: desolations. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week; and in the middle of the week the sacrifice and oblation shall be taken away; and in the holy place shall be the abomination of desolations, and until the consummation of time shall the consummation be assigned for desolation. And in the midst of the week shall he make the incense of sacrifice cease, and of the wing of destruction, even till the consummation, like the destruction of the oblation." That the temple accordingly was built in seven weeks, is evident; for it is written in Esdras. And thus Christ became King of the Jews, reigning in Jerusalem in the fulfilment of the seven weeks. And in the sixty and two weeks the whole of Judaea was quiet, and without wars. And Christ our Lord, "the Holy of Holies," having come and fulfilled the vision and the prophecy, was anointed in His flesh by the Holy Spirit of His Father. In those "sixty and two weeks," as the prophet said, and "in the one week," was He Lord. The half of the week Nero held sway, and in the holy city Jerusalem placed the abomination; and in the half of the week he was taken away, and Otho, and Galba, and Vitellius. And Vespasian rose to the supreme power, and destroyed Jerusalem, and desolated the holy place. And that such are the facts of the case, is clear to him that is able to understand, as the prophet said.

There is no reference to antichrist in Clement's explication, in which he recognizes that the Daniel 9 passage was completely fulfilled historically.

You will in fact find that, with the possible exception of Irenaeus, no pre-19th-century scholar, apologist, or commentator who expounded upon the Daniel 9 passage ever believed that a far distant future antichrist is the prince of Daniel 9:26.

The dispensational futurism of McGee, Pink, and all who espouse the same is a manifestation of prophetic modernism.
 
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It is positively dishonest to present the comment of Clement of Alexandria on this point as if it were the opinion of the early church. You know perfectly well that this document by Clement of Alexandria is the ONLY surviving Christian commentary from this period which did NOT present the seventieth week as remaining to be fulfilled in the future. It was CLEARLY presented as future by BOTH Irenaeus and Hippolytus, who both wrote within fifty of so years of the time when Clement of Alexandria wrote.
 
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Hello Vicky. How does that relate to the topic of the 70 weeks? Please start a thread on that......
Enjoy your week at the lake............
The passage from Isaiah shows the culmination of the gap when the angel of death, anti-Christ, enters into that final covenant the apostate portion of Israel.
 
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The passage from Isaiah shows the culmination of the gap when the angel of death, anti-Christ, enters into that final covenant the apostate portion of Israel.
Yes, the destroyer mentioned in Exodus 12 is also mentioned in Revelation 9.
I have a thread on the significance of Titus sieging Jerusalem on the Passover 70AD
Those sealed with the blood of the Lamb escaped in 70AD.............

Titus sieges Jerusalem on Feast of Passover/Destroyer in Revelation

Exo 12:11
11 ‘And thus you shall eat it: with a belt on your waist, your sandals on your feet, and your staff in your hand. So you shall eat it in haste. It is the LORD’s Passover<6453>.
23 And Yahweh passes<5674> to strike the Egyptians and He sees the blood on the lintel and on two of the jambs and Yahweh passes-over<6452> the portal and not He shall allow the ruiner/destroyer<H07843>/<G1842 oleqreuonta> to come to houses of ye to strike.[Revelation 9:11]
7843 shachath a primitive root;
to decay, i.e. (causatively) ruin (literally or figuratively):--batter, cast off, corrupt(-er, thing), destroy(-er, -uction), lose, mar, perish, spill, spoiler, X utterly, waste(-r).
שָׁחַת (shachath), occurs 147 times in 136 verses
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The destroyer mentioned in Exodus 12:23 is also mentioned in Revelation 9:11 concerning 1st century Jerusalem:

Revelation 9:11
and they are having of them a king the Messenger of the Abyss, name to him to Hebrew destroyer/ruiner <3>, and in the Greecian name is having destroyer/apolluwn<623/622> [Exodus 12:23]
623. Apolluon active participle of 622; a destroyer (i.e. Satan):--Apollyon.
622. apollumi ap-ol'-loo-mee from 575 and the base of 3639; to destroy fully (reflexively, to perish, or lose), literally or figuratively:--destroy, die, lose, mar, perish.
3639. olethros from a primary ollumi (to destroy; a prolonged form); ruin, i.e. death, punishment:--destruction.
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The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD

The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover; and it is deserving of the very particular attention of the reader, that this was the anniversary of that memorable period in which the Jews crucified their Messiah! At this season multitudes came up from all the surrounding country, and from distant parts, to keep the festival. How suitable and how kind, then, was the prophetic admonition of our LORD, and how clearly he into futurity when he said "Let not them that are in the countries enter into Jerusalem." Luke xxi. 21.
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Revelation 6:6
And I hear a voice in midst of the four living-ones saying: "a measure of grain/wheat a denari and three measures of barleys a denari,
and the oil and the wine no you should be injuring"."
 
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It is positively dishonest to present the comment of Clement of Alexandria on this point as if it were the opinion of the early church. You know perfectly well that this document by Clement of Alexandria is the ONLY surviving Christian commentary from this period which did NOT present the seventieth week as remaining to be fulfilled in the future. It was CLEARLY presented as future by BOTH Irenaeus and Hippolytus, who both wrote within fifty of so years of the time when Clement of Alexandria wrote.

Why don't you read the posts first?

The discussion was about the identity of the prince in Daniel 9:26.

What do you think "with the possible exception of Irenaeus" means?

Hippolytus was his pupil, so did not represent an independent view.

Who other than they claimed that the prince in Daniel 9:26 was antichrist?
 
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Why don't you read the posts first?

The discussion was about the identity of the prince in Daniel 9:26.

What do you think "with the possible exception of Irenaeus" means?

Hippolytus was his pupil, so did not represent an independent view.

Who other than they claimed that the prince in Daniel 9:26 was antichrist?
Hello jgr.
I just remembered I had a thread on that........wanna bump it up? :)
[so many threads and so little time.........]

Daniel 9:26 "people of a prince one coming"

Who is the people and prince symbolizing in Dan 9:26.
Discuss.

JPS Tanakh 1917
And after the threescore and two weeks shall an anointed one be cut off, and be no more; and the people of a prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; but his end shall be with a flood; and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

Daniel 9:26:
And after<310> the sevens<620> sixty<8346 and two<8147> shall be cut off<3772> an anointed-one<4899> and there is nothing<369> to-him and the city<5892> and the sanctuary<6944> he shall ruin<7843>, people<5971> of ruler/chief<5057>, the one-coming<935> and end of him<7093> in-overflowing<7858> and until<5704> end<7093> war<4421> being decided<2782> ones being desolate<8074>
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Some commentaries:

Benson Commentary

And the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city, &c. — Thus to the death of Christ the angel immediately subjoins the excision of Jerusalem. The people here spoken of are the Romans, and the prince that should come, may mean, as some think, the Messiah; the Romans being called his people, both on account of their present subserviency to his will, and their future conversion to his faith; HE sent forth HIS armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city, Matthew 22:7. Or, the prince that should come may be understood of Titus Vespasian, of whom the Roman writers speak as if his military glory chiefly resulted from the taking of Jerusalem. “The actions of this prince, in the conduct of this memorable siege, are related in the fifth and sixth books of Josephus; the most tragical event in history was effected by a prince whose clemency made him ‘the delight of human-kind,’ and who saw, with generous reluctance, the horrors of his own victory. — Jos., 7:5. 2. It is thus Divine Providence distinguishes its counsels and instruments; and the victor himself acknowledged that ‘God was his assistant, that none but God could have ejected the Jews from so strong fortifications,’ Josephus Daniel 6:9. 1. They shall destroy the CITY and the SANCTUARY — The specification is remarkable; as Jerusalem, in effect, sustained two separate sieges; one, of the lower city; the other, of the temple, or sanctuary of strength, as our prophet elsewhere styles it, chap. Josephus Daniel 11:31, as being not only a magnificent temple newly rebuilt, but a strong fortress, which was consumed by their own fires, against the intention and efforts of their conqueror. — Josephus Daniel 6:4, 7.” The end thereof shall be with a flood — The symbol of invading armies:

— — Aggeribus ruptis cum spumeus amnis Exiit, oppositasque evicit gurgite moles, Fertur in arva furens cumulo, camposque per omnes, Cum stabulis armenta trahit. VIRG. ÆN. 2:496.

Not with so fierce a rage the foaming flood Roars, when he finds his rapid course withstood; Bears down the dams with unresisted sway, And sweeps the cattle and the cots away. DRYDEN.

Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges

the people of a prince that shall come] viz. against the land, the verb being used in the same hostile sense which it has in Daniel 1:1, Daniel 11:13; Daniel 11:16; Daniel 11:21; Daniel 11:40-41. The allusion is to the soldiery of Antiochus Epiphanes, who set Jerusalem on fire, and pulled down many of the houses and fortifications, so that the inhabitants took flight, and the city could be described as being ‘without inhabitant, like a wilderness’ (1Ma 1:31-32; 1Ma 1:38; 1Ma 3:45)—‘people’ being used as in 2 Samuel 10:13, Ezekiel 30:11, &c., of a body of troops. On the treatment which the Temple received at the same time, see above on Daniel 8:11.

Matthew Poole's Commentary

The people of the prince that shall come; the Romans under the conduct of Titus Vespantianus. Some will include Christ’s people here, whom he should chiefly gather out of the Roman empire, should ruin that church, and polity, and worship. Desolations are determined; God hath decreed to destroy that place and people by the miseries and desolations of war, i.e. sword, famine, sickness, scattering. All this is signified by

Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible

and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; that is, the people of the Romans, under Vespasian their prince, emperor, and general, should, in a little time after the cutting off of the Messiah, enter into the land of Judea, and destroy the city of Jerusalem, and the temple that stood in it; though some understand this of Messiah the Prince that should come in his power, and in a way of judgment upon the Jewish nation, and destroy them for their rejection of him; whose people the Romans would be, and under whose direction, and by whose orders, all these judgments should be brought upon the Jews; but many of the Jewish writers themselves interpret it of Vespasian, as Aben Ezra, Jarchi, Abarbinel, and Jacchiades:

and the end thereof shall be with a flood: the end of the city and temple, and of the whole nation, should be by the Roman army, which, like a flood, would overspread the land, and carry all before it.

Barnes' Notes on the Bible

"And the people of the prince that shall come." Margin, "And they (the Jews) shall be no more his people; or, the Prince's (Messiah's) future people." This seems to be rather an explanation of the meaning, than a translation of the Hebrew. The literal rendering would be, "and the city, and the sanctuary, the people of a prince that comes, shall lay waste." On the general supposition that this whole passage refers to the Messiah and his time, the language used here is not difficult of interpretation, and denotes with undoubted accuracy the events that soon followed the "cutting off" of the Messiah. The word "people" (עם ‛am) is a word that may well be applied to subjects or armies - such a people as an invading prince or warrior would lead with him for purposes of conquest. It denotes properly

(a) a people, or tribe, or race in general; and then
Compelling historical evidence.

To counter the futurist and his folly.
 
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It looks like the 70 weeks of Daniel is a popular topic in Christianity today, so I thought I would create one and include a poll. I also am interested in discussing this.

YLT)
Daniel 9:
24 ‘Sevens, seventy are determined for thy people, and for thy holy city, to shut up the transgression, and to seal up sins, and to cover iniquity, and to bring in righteousness age-during, and to seal up vision and prophet, and to anoint the holy of holies.
25 And thou dost know, and dost consider wisely, from the going forth of the word to restore and to build Jerusalem till Messiah the Leader [is] seven weeks, and sixty and two weeks: the broad place hath been built again, and the rampart, even in the distress of the times.
26 And after the sixty and two weeks, cut off is Messiah, and the city and the holy place are not his, the Leader who hath come doth destroy the people; and its end [is] with a flood, and till the end [is] war, determined [are] desolations.
27 And he hath strengthened a covenant with many — one week, and [in] the midst of the week he causeth sacrifice and present to cease, and by the wing of abominations he is making desolate, even till the consummation, and that which is determined is poured on the desolate one.’


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You always come up with such great stuff and your presentation is as good as there is. Are you knowledgeable of the post apostolic leaders whose writings we have today? I was under the impression that almost to a man they believed Daniel’s 70 Weeks was futurist
 
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Yes, and very interesting indeed. Thks for posting that
Sounds similar to Genesis 4:24

Strong's Concordance with Hebrew and Greek Lexicon

"seventy"
occurs 97 times in 96 verses in the NKJV.

OT

1st time used

Gen 4:24 If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, Then Lamech seventy-sevenfold.”

Last time used:

Zec 7:5
“Say to all the people of the land, and to the priests: ‘When you fasted and mourned in the fifth and seventh months during those seventy years, did you really fast for Me—for Me?
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NT

Used in only 3 verses of the Gospels:

Mat 18:22
Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven.

Luk 10:1
After these things the Lord appointed seventy others also, and sent them two by two before His face into every city and place where He Himself was about to go.
Luk 10:17
Then the seventy returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.”
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Some interesting info on the number 70 used in the Bible:
https://www.[bless and do not curse.../bibleref/meaning-of-numbers-in-bible/70.html

The Meaning of Numbers: The Number 70
Seventy has a sacred meaning in the Bible that is made up of the factors of two perfect numbers, seven (representing perfection) and ten (representing completeness and God's law). As such, it symbolizes perfect spiritual order carried out with all power. It can also represent a period of judgment.

Seventy (70) elders were appointed by Moses (Numbers 11:16). After reading the covenant God gave him to read to the people, Moses took 70 elders, along with Aaron and his sons, up Mount Sinai to have a special meal with God himself (Exodus 24:9 - 11)!

Ancient Israel spent a total number of 70 years in captivity in Babylon (Jeremiah 29:10). Seventy is also specially connected with Jerusalem. The city kept 70 years of Sabbaths while Judah was in Babylonian captivity (Jeremiah 25:11). Seventy sevens (490 years) were determined upon Jerusalem for it to complete its transgressions, to make an end for sins and for everlasting righteousness to enter into it (Daniel 9:24).
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Biblical significance of number seventy

Seventy has a stunning meaning in the Bible. The word “seventy” is used 56 times in the Holy Bible. The number seventy (70) is made up of two numbers — seven, representing perfection and ten representing completeness and God’s law. One may wonder, why the Holy Bible is saturated with the number seven and with multiples of seven like the number seventy. This is indeed a Biblical mathematical phenomenon that remains a mystery to this day. What is true, however, is that seven is God’s favorite number. The proof? The Holy Bible. Throughout the Bible (Genesis to Revelation) the number seven appears many times. Seven is used 735 times in the Holy Bible. In the Book of Revelation, seven is used 54 times. The word “seventh” is used 98 times while the word “sevenfold” appears seven times.

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Let me share some instances in the Holy Bible where the number seventy is mentioned:

  • After the flood, the world was repopulated through seventy descendants of Noah.
  • In the Book of Jeremiah 25:11-12, the Israelites were exiled in Babylon for seventy years.
  • In Matthew 18:21-22, Jesus said to forgive seventy times seven.
  • In Numbers 11:16, Moses appointed seventy elders of Israel and brought them to the tabernacle of the congregation.
  • In Exodus 24:9-11, Moses took seventy of the elders of Israel together with Aaron, and his sons went up Mount Sinai and ate and drank with God himself. This tribunal of seventy elders was eventually called the Sanhedrin. The Sanhedrin was the ancient Jewish court system.
  • In Luke 10, seventy disciples were sent out by Christ on a “training mission” to preach the Gospel to the surrounding area.
  • In Exodus 1:5, a total of seventy Israelites, the offspring of Jacob, went down to Egypt and started the Jewish population in Egypt which later swelled to over two million by the time of Exodus;
  • In the Book of Matthew and in the other books of the Bible (Luke, John, Mark), there are at least seventy parables during the ministry of Jesus Christ;
  • In the Book of Daniel 9:24, “seventy weeks are determined upon Jerusalem and its people to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins and to make reconciliation for integrity and to bring an everlasting righteousness and to seal up the vision and prophecy.”
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Great stuff the number 70, thanks. For posting it
 
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You always come up with such great stuff and your presentation is as good as there is. Are you knowledgeable of the post apostolic leaders whose writings we have today? I was under the impression that almost to a man they believed Daniel’s 70 Weeks was futurist

No.

The following is found in the 1599 Geneva Bible, which is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America.

Daniel 9:27
And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

(a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles.

(b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection.

(c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them.

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The following is found in the 1599 Geneva Bible, which is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America.

Daniel 9:27
And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

(a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles.

(b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection.

(c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them.

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When the Lord spoke of the coming destruction He clearly foresaw it as futurist. These things are not connect to his first coming. They are fulfilled at His Return. Also he spoke of the entire temple and complex of being cast down. The problem comes from our reading Josephus where are told the Roman soldiers used part of the unfallen wall as shelter. Yes I know these were the outward wall. But let’s consider this that the Lord teaches every stone would be cast or thrown down. Josephus’ account clearly shows not all the bricks were cast down but fell because of the fire. Was the Lord unable to prophesy events only 40 years in the future.
 
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When the Lord spoke of the coming destruction He clearly foresaw it as futurist. These things are not connect to his first coming. They are fulfilled at His Return. Also he spoke of the entire temple and complex of being cast down. The problem comes from our reading Josephus where are told the Roman soldiers used part of the unfallen wall as shelter. Yes I know these were the outward wall. But let’s consider this that the Lord teaches every stone would be cast or thrown down. Josephus’ account clearly shows not all the bricks were cast down but fell because of the fire. Was the Lord unable to prophesy events only 40 years in the future.
When the Lord spoke of the coming destruction He clearly foresaw it as futurist. These things are not connect to his first coming. They are fulfilled at His Return. Also he spoke of the entire temple and complex of being cast down. The problem comes from our reading Josephus where are told the Roman soldiers used part of the unfallen wall as shelter. Yes I know these were the outward wall. But let’s consider this that the Lord teaches every stone would be cast or thrown down. Josephus’ account clearly shows not all the bricks were cast down but fell because of the fire. Was the Lord unable to prophesy events only 40 years in the future.
A question did Zechariah in the 11th chapter of his speak prophesy or history?
 
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The 40 year does not fit, because not all the stuff occured in that time, there was not even an abomination of desolation, titus destroyed the temple, he did not put an abomination which makes it desolate.

Titus was not a prince either let alone this prince. This is the only prince who is foretold to becoming his moniker is the Prince of the world. This is the beast ascending out of the pit
 
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These things are not connect to his first coming. They are fulfilled at His Return. Also he spoke of the entire temple and complex of being cast down.

What do we find in the summary of Daniel 9:24, which was fulfilled during the first century?


Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.


Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.


Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; (Quoted from Jeremiah 31:31-34.)
Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.


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