Women's ultimate responsibility for world's sin

LaBèlla said:

I have never been abused in any form. I was raised in an environment where men and women adhered to their biblical roles and did so willingly. I had no exposure to feminist teachings until college.

I do not cede blanket authority in the manner you’re supposing. I have an agreeable disposition and know my place. I have no want to compete with my partner because I’ve achieved much. I have nothing to prove. His rise is an asset not a threat. I want us to soar as one.



Many don’t know what to do with me. ~laughs

I like assertive men with drive who know what they want and aren’t afraid to pursue it. Our temperaments are complementary. I’m not a damsel or fragile. I know how to stand and lead. I need a partner who can as well.

That’s the one I’m waiting for.

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I cannot be a very good provider in my current circumstances, and truth be told I don't have a lot to offer that most women want now, in my life now, so, I just stay single now for the most part, I don't have a desire to raise or rear children anymore, as I've been there and done that already, not with my own biological children, but with other peoples kids in a prior relationship...

And I have some social functioning problems as well, I require solitude and time doing my own thing alone a lot...

I realize your not offering yourself to me or anything, I just think you sound great, but just in case you should even dare to think of the idea, I just would want you or others like you to know that I just don't know if I'm cut out for it or not, up front...

But you sound awesome dear, I really do hope you find a very good man, who would be a great fit for you, and who would respect you and be with you the way you would want him to, and not ever abuse that, and always and forever cherish it and handle it with the utmost care, and with a well grounded sense of responsibility, and for what both of you could be together as well... And that he would be happy and you would be very happy together, etc...

Wishing you the best, and I am going to in fact pray for just that for you, OK...?

God Bless!

LaBèlla said:

I have never been abused in any form. I was raised in an environment where men and women adhered to their biblical roles and did so willingly. I had no exposure to feminist teachings until college.

I do not cede blanket authority in the manner you’re supposing. I have an agreeable disposition and know my place. I have no want to compete with my partner because I’ve achieved much. I have nothing to prove. His rise is an asset not a threat. I want us to soar as one.



Many don’t know what to do with me. ~laughs

I like assertive men with drive who know what they want and aren’t afraid to pursue it. Our temperaments are complementary. I’m not a damsel or fragile. I know how to stand and lead. I need a partner who can as well.

That’s the one I’m waiting for.

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Oh and I've never been abused either, and I had good role models too, even though I had a stepdad, etc... My mother was a saint, quite literally a saint, and an awesome woman...

Sometimes I am very strong, but can be quite fragile and sensitive sometimes, at some times also, it is those times that I most usually seek solitude for a little bit, until I can come back again, etc...

Oh, and I don't know if I know how to lead or not, never been given the chance to so far, etc... Don't know how I would do, etc...

God Bless!

yeshuaslavejeff said:

"Adam was not deceived", remember ? Thus it seem readily apparent that yes, he definitely knew.

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Some preachers believed that Adam saw Eve "died spiritually" when she ate the fruit. He was unwilling to let her die alone, so he ate that fruit too, to join in with her.

I guess only in heaven will we ever know what went down at that moment.

eve sinned by being deceived
adam sinned by capitulating

the LORD punished both of them.

Neogaia777 said:

I cannot be a very good provider in my current circumstances, and truth be told I don't have a lot to offer that most women want now, in my life now, so, I just stay single now for the most part

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Thank you for the kind words of support and offer to pray. I really appreciate it.

Although I am single I wouldn’t wish to give the impression of unhappiness or discontent. God has been very good to me!

I’ve had offers but I was not in Christ and my purpose can’t be forsaken. That’s the elephant in the room. They acquire a submissive woman whose domesticated and home full-time. But I have a head for business and He’s making use of it for His glory.

The ideal person for me will embrace my makeup in its entirety and support the mission I’ve been given as I would do for him. Although I don’t wish to have more children (my daughter is an adult) or raise others due to current demands. I will heed His direction nevertheless.

I realize your not offering yourself to me or anything, I just think you sound great, but just in case you should even dare to think of the idea, I just would want you or others like you to know that I just don't know if I'm cut out for it or not, up front...

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I appreciate your forthrightness. I would never approach a gentleman. If he finds me pleasing he will make it known. I think that’s the ideal stance for a lady but modern sensibilities say otherwise.

But you sound awesome dear, I really do hope you find a very good man, who would be a great fit for you, and who would respect you and be with you the way you would want him to, and not ever abuse that, and always and forever cherish it and handle it with the utmost care, and with a well grounded sense of responsibility, and for what both of you could be together as well... And that he would be happy and you would be very happy together, etc...

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Thank you once more. That is the ending I’m praying for and working towards. To find the gentleman I can love, honor, respect and serve all my days is what I seek. God willing, we shall find the other in due season.

It is my hope that you’ll remain open to the same.

kdm1984 said:

I realize this won't be a popular post, but I'm aiming for truth, here, not the feelings of comfort or the approval of other people, so come what may.

When we really get down to it, every sin problem in the world points back to Eve. She ate the fruit. Adam wasn't deceived, but Eve gave him the fruit. She chose to know what evil was, and so now we have evil in the world because of woman.

With this in mind, I cannot ever support feminism, despite being female. Whatever sin, rape, murder, etc. happens to woman, we brought it on ourselves through the actions of our original ancestor. It makes no logical sense to demand rights, love, etc. when all the problems of evil/sin in the world were brought on by us in the first place. WE are the ones who brought this mess on humanity, not Adam/men. Every sin you see -- that's ultimately all on Eve, the woman.

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Almost everything you said here is wrong.

Read the Bible all over again, this time, without the biases of religious dogmas.

If you're looking for super hard evidence, look up the country Iceland

God never commanded nor punished Eve by making her submit to her husband. It's really up to her or women if they want to be under the rule of men or not (generally-speaking).

This is why I'm telling you to look up Iceland. This is super hard evidence for you. This is the best country for women. The women have equal authority to men. And as a result, they have incredibly low crime rates, pure uncorrupted government/politics, banned prostitution, banned inappropriate content, and even eliminated poverty!

You can also lookup Muslim countries and many 3rd world countries if you want super hard evidence what the misinterpreted teaching of women submitting to husbands, submitting to inequality will do to a nation.....Very high crime rates, poverty, drugs, prostitution, human trafficking, inappropriate content, very corrupt governement. Just lots of evil and injustice. Is this what you want???

Willie T said:

I thought it was Adam, not Eve, that God directly told what he was not to do. Did he not know what it was Eve was offering to him?

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kdm1984 said:

I hadn't ever quite thought of it that way, but that makes perfect sense.

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Its does. Because the Word of God contains answers awaiting to be discovered. All problems in life hold their solution from the study and correlation of God's Word by the grace God wants for all believers. Most seek to created agendas and formulas to live by .. creating their own "mini Law" to follow religiously. Real answers take us by surprise and spontaneity of the Spirit's leading those willing to study sound doctrine, not religion.

One thing feminists don't consider --

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One thing feminists don't consider is if they sought first the kingdom of God and his righteousness? They would become the unique woman God designed them to be, and would not have to get into the crutches of an agenda that is designed to organize frustrated women into a state of self justification.

And, if men sought first the kingdom of God and his righteousness? They would cease being the kind of jerks that makes feminists feel justified.

LaBèlla said:

Thank you for the kind words of support and offer to pray. I really appreciate it.

Although I am single I wouldn’t wish to give the impression of unhappiness or discontent. God has been very good to me!

I’ve had offers but I was not in Christ and my purpose can’t be forsaken. That’s the elephant in the room. They acquire a submissive woman whose domesticated and home full-time. But I have a head for business and He’s making use of it for His glory.

The ideal person for me will embrace my makeup in its entirety and support the mission I’ve been given as I would do for him. Although I don’t wish to have more children (my daughter is an adult) or raise others due to current demands. I will heed His direction nevertheless.



I appreciate your forthrightness. I would never approach a gentleman. If he finds me pleasing he will make it known. I think that’s the ideal stance for a lady but modern sensibilities say otherwise.



Thank you once more. That is the ending I’m praying for and working towards. To find the gentleman I can love, honor, respect and serve all my days is what I seek. God willing, we shall find the other in due season.

It is my hope that you’ll remain open to the same.

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Thank You, I will or I will try... God has been good to me also, and I have a purpose I think that might involve the single life or single living right now for me maybe, or at least for right now maybe...?

It's been very good talking with you, very pleasant, I really do wish you the best and sincerely hope that you find what you are looking for... I have in fact prayed for it and will praying for it for you OK...

May God Richly Bless You Continually And Always @LaBèlla !

And be with you always,

God Bless!

klutedavid said:

Exactly, Eve was from Adam and the apple does not fall far from the tree (pun).

There is no doubt that Adam would have eventually had a nibble on the fruit of that tree, given enough time of course.

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The strangest aspect could have been quite different if Adam refused to eat.

If Adam refused Eve's entree? He would have remained sinless. Then the offspring from his union with Eve would have produced sinless children, because the woman's ovum does not pass the sin nature in reproduction.

timewerx said:

This is why I'm telling you to look up Iceland. This is super hard evidence for you. This is the best country for women. The women have equal authority to men. And as a result, they have incredibly low crime rates, pure uncorrupted government/politics, banned prostitution, banned inappropriate content, and even eliminated poverty!

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Correlation does not imply causation.

kdm1984 said:

Well-said. Thanks for offering a counterpoint I genuinely hadn't thought of, and was better supported by Scripture than my original argument. Despite what some others might contend on this thread, I like taking correction when I see someone has a more Scripturally sound argument than mine originally was. Yours covers all the bases more thoroughly, and I will adjust my thinking in accordance.

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Here is the scholar who gave me the information that I simply passed on.

R. B. Thieme, Jr., Bible Ministries — Home

Willie T said:

I thought it was Adam, not Eve, that God directly told what he was not to do. Did he not know what it was Eve was offering to him?

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timewerx said:

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I don't know...? Did he or did he not...? Scripture says he was not deceived...?

kdm1984 said:

I realize this won't be a popular post, but I'm aiming for truth, here, not the feelings of comfort or the approval of other people, so come what may.

When we really get down to it, every sin problem in the world points back to Eve. She ate the fruit. Adam wasn't deceived, but Eve gave him the fruit. She chose to know what evil was, and so now we have evil in the world because of woman.

With this in mind, I cannot ever support feminism, despite being female. Whatever sin, rape, murder, etc. happens to woman, we brought it on ourselves through the actions of our original ancestor. It makes no logical sense to demand rights, love, etc. when all the problems of evil/sin in the world were brought on by us in the first place. WE are the ones who brought this mess on humanity, not Adam/men. Every sin you see -- that's ultimately all on Eve, the woman.

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One could say that Adam's inaction to stop her was the first sin. But it doesn't really matter. There's more than enough sin to go around. I've always blamed them both, TBH.

As for feminism, the current version of it is odious enough to want nothing to do with in the first place.

genez said:

The strangest aspect could have been quite different if Adam refused to eat.

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Yeah, I’ve thought about that. Why didn’t he say no. I’ve questioned if the desire to eat was lurking in his heart as well. He didn’t put up a fight.

LaBèlla said:

Yeah, I’ve thought about that. Why didn’t he say no. I’ve questioned if the desire to eat was lurking in his heart as well. He didn’t put up a fight.

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Then there is post #137 by @Guojing That I liked...? That I don't know if you guys maybe missed or not maybe...?

Women's ultimate responsibility for world's sin

God Bless!

kdm1984 said:

I realize this won't be a popular post, but I'm aiming for truth, here, not the feelings of comfort or the approval of other people, so come what may.

When we really get down to it, every sin problem in the world points back to Eve. She ate the fruit. Adam wasn't deceived, but Eve gave him the fruit. She chose to know what evil was, and so now we have evil in the world because of woman.

With this in mind, I cannot ever support feminism, despite being female. Whatever sin, rape, murder, etc. happens to woman, we brought it on ourselves through the actions of our original ancestor. It makes no logical sense to demand rights, love, etc. when all the problems of evil/sin in the world were brought on by us in the first place. WE are the ones who brought this mess on humanity, not Adam/men. Every sin you see -- that's ultimately all on Eve, the woman.

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God doesn't see male or female in the soul.
It doesn't matter that it was female or male that first sinned. It was humans that sinned.
Adam fell for sin just as quickly as Eve did.
And so I reject the notion that "rape, murder, etc", was brought on by Eve.