Christian Horse with a broken leg. What does Jesus the farmer do?

I'll let those skilled in the Bible quotes to argue it out but if i was a christian horse on God/Jesus's land? Wouldn't he monitor those he loves and if i broke my leg, would he not do what a good farmer does and shoot me to send me off into eternity.

For those of Not Once saved always saved: Does Jesus closely monitor like a shepherd those he loves? Does Jesus discipline those he loves? Can we pray for discipline? I would sooner die then do something that causes me to go to hell.

On a separate note a persons value at any given point in time is comprised of 100s of variables and each variable in the equation is weighted differently. Each variable would take a tremendous about of investigating to ascertain the value of that variable. I believe this notion is absolutely necessary for any forum topic unless that forum topic is what is the best flavor of ice cream.

1 John 5:13 ESV / 87 helpful votes
I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God that you may know that you have eternal life.

Galatians 5:19-21 ESV / 86 helpful votes
Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Galatians 5:4 ESV / 82 helpful votes
You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.

1 Corinthians 9:27 ESV / 79 helpful votes
But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified.

John 5:24 ESV / 79 helpful votes
Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

John 15:6 ESV / 73 helpful votes
If anyone does not abide in me he is thrown away like a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire, and burned.

2 Peter 1:10 ESV / 66 helpful votes
Therefore, brothers, be all the more diligent to make your calling and election sure, for if you practice these qualities you will never fall.

Matthew 10:22 ESV / 62 helpful votes
And you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved.

James 2:14-17 ESV / 57 helpful votes
What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

Matthew 7:21 ESV / 57 helpful votes
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

1 Corinthians 10:12 ESV / 56 helpful votes
Therefore let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall.

Matthew 24:13 ESV / 56 helpful votes
But the one who endures to the end will be saved.

Ezekiel 18:24 ESV / 56 helpful votes
But when a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and does injustice and does the same abominations that the wicked person does, shall he live? None of the righteous deeds that he has done shall be remembered; for the treachery of which he is guilty and the sin he has committed, for them he shall die.

Romans 2:6-8 ESV / 55 helpful votes
He will render to each one according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury.

Romans 8:12-13 ESV / 52 helpful votes
So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh. For if you live according to the flesh you will die, but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

1 John 3:6-9 ESV / 46 helpful votes
No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God.

Ephesians 1:13-14 ESV / 42 helpful votes
In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.

Mark 16:16 ESV / 40 helpful votes
Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

Romans 6:23 ESV / 38 helpful votes
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

John 3:36 ESV / 38 helpful votes
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.

Luke 8:13 ESV / 38 helpful votes
And the ones on the rock are those who, when they hear the word, receive it with joy. But these have no root; they believe for a while, and in time of testing fall away.

Titus 3:5 ESV / 36 helpful votes
He saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit,

Romans 8:15-17 ESV / 35 helpful votes
For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!” The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him.

Titus 1:2 ESV / 33 helpful votes
In hope of eternal life, which God, who never lies, promised before the ages began

2 Corinthians 4:16 ESV / 33 helpful votes
So we do not lose heart. Though our outer self is wasting away, our inner self is being renewed day by day.

Romans 8:39 ESV / 33 helpful votes
Nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

John 3:3 ESV / 33 helpful votes
Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

Romans 11:23 ESV / 32 helpful votes
And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again.

Revelation 2:10 ESV / 31 helpful votes
Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and for ten days you will have tribulation. Be faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life.

1 Peter 1:23 ESV / 31 helpful votes
Since you have been born again, not of perishable seed but of imperishable, through the living and abiding word of God;

John 10:1-42 ESV / 31 helpful votes
“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber. But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. A stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.” ...

1 Corinthians 15:2 ESV / 29 helpful votes
And by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you—unless you believed in vain.

Hebrews 3:12-14 ESV / 28 helpful votes
Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God. But exhort one another every day, as long as it is called “today,” that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. For we have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original confidence firm to the end.

Colossians 1:21-23 ESV / 28 helpful votes
And you, who once were alienated and hostile in mind, doing evil deeds, he has now reconciled in his body of flesh by his death, in order to present you holy and blameless and above reproach before him, if indeed you continue in the faith, stable and steadfast, not shifting from the hope of the gospel that you heard, which has been proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, became a minister.

Romans 11:29 ESV / 28 helpful votes
For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

Philippians 1:6 ESV / 27 helpful votes
And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV / 27 helpful votes
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

John 6:28-29 ESV / 27 helpful votes
Then they said to him, “What must we do, to be doing the works of God?” Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”

Galatians 5:1 ESV / 26 helpful votes
For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.

2 Corinthians 13:5 ESV / 26 helpful votes
Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you fail to meet the test!

1 John 5:4 ESV / 24 helpful votes
For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith.

Hebrews 5:9 ESV / 24 helpful votes
And being made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey him,

Galatians 6:8-9 ESV / 24 helpful votes
For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life. And let us not grow weary of doing good, for in due season we will reap, if we do not give up.

Galatians 5:24 ESV / 24 helpful votes
And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

Matthew 13:1-58 ESV / 24 helpful votes
That same day Jesus went out of the house and sat beside the sea. And great crowds gathered about him, so that he got into a boat and sat down. And the whole crowd stood on the beach. And he told them many things in parables, saying: “A sower went out to sow. And as he sowed, some seeds fell along the path, and the birds came and devoured them. Other seeds fell on rocky ground, where they did not have much soil, and immediately they sprang up, since they had no depth of soil, ...

Revelation 20:11-15 ESV / 22 helpful votes
Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

1 John 5:16-17 ESV / 22 helpful votes
If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask, and God will give him life—to those who commit sins that do not lead to death. There is sin that leads to death; I do not say that one should pray for that. All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin that does not lead to death.

Philippians 2:12-13 ESV / 22 helpful votes
Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.

1 John 5:18 ESV / 20 helpful votes
We know that everyone who has been born of God does not keep on sinning, but he who was born of God protects him, and the evil one does not touch him.

Hebrews 10:14 ESV / 20 helpful votes
For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified.

Titus 3:5-7 ESV / 20 helpful votes
He saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that being justified by his grace we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Colossians 1:22-29 ESV / 20 helpful votes
He has now reconciled in his body of flesh by his death, in order to present you holy and blameless and above reproach before him, if indeed you continue in the faith, stable and steadfast, not shifting from the hope of the gospel that you heard, which has been proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, became a minister. Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I am filling up what is lacking in Christ's afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church, of which I became a minister according to the stewardship from God that was given to me for you, to make the word of God fully known, the mystery hidden for ages and generations but now revealed to his saints. ...

Philippians 3:12-14 ESV / 20 helpful votes
Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect, but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own. Brothers, I do not consider that I have made it my own. But one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead, I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.

Luke 20:36 ESV / 20 helpful votes
For they cannot die anymore, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.

Ezekiel 33:12-20 ESV / 20 helpful votes
“And you, son of man, say to your people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him when he transgresses, and as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall by it when he turns from his wickedness, and the righteous shall not be able to live by his righteousness when he sins. Though I say to the righteous that he shall surely live, yet if he trusts in his righteousness and does injustice, none of his righteous deeds shall be remembered, but in his injustice that he has done he shall die. Again, though I say to the wicked, ‘You shall surely die,’ yet if he turns from his sin and does what is just and right, if the wicked restores the pledge, gives back what he has taken by robbery, and walks in the statutes of life, not doing injustice, he shall surely live; he shall not die. None of the sins that he has committed shall be remembered against him. He has done what is just and right; he shall surely live. ...

1 John 5:11-12 ESV / 19 helpful votes
And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.

Revelation 3:2-5 ESV / 18 helpful votes
Wake up, and strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I have not found your works complete in the sight of my God. Remember, then, what you received and heard. Keep it, and repent. If you will not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what hour I will come against you. Yet you have still a few names in Sardis, people who have not soiled their garments, and they will walk with me in white, for they are worthy. The one who conquers will be clothed thus in white garments, and I will never blot his name out of the book of life. I will confess his name before my Father and before his angels.

James 2:24 ESV / 18 helpful votes
You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.

2 Corinthians 5:17 ESV / 18 helpful votes
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.

Romans 7:1-8:39 ESV / 18 helpful votes
Or do you not know, brothers—for I am speaking to those who know the law—that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives? For a married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her husband dies she is released from the law of marriage. Accordingly, she will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and if she marries another man she is not an adulteress. Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death. ...

Philippians 3:12 ESV / 17 helpful votes
Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect, but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own.

Galatians 4:9 ESV / 17 helpful votes
But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how can you turn back again to the weak and worthless elementary principles of the world, whose slaves you want to be once more?

1 Corinthians 1:1-3:23 ESV / 17 helpful votes
Paul, called by the will of God to be an apostle of Christ Jesus, and our brother Sosthenes, To the church of God that is in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints together with all those who in every place call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, both their Lord and ours: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. I give thanks to my God always for you because of the grace of God that was given you in Christ Jesus, that in every way you were enriched in him in all speech and all knowledge— ...

Jude 1:24-25 ESV / 16 helpful votes
Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy, to the only God, our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.

Hebrews 7:25 ESV / 16 helpful votes
Consequently, he is able to save to the uttermost those who draw near to God through him, since he always lives to make intercession for them.

1 Corinthians 5:5 ESV / 16 helpful votes
You are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord.

Romans 10:9-10 ESV / 16 helpful votes
Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.

Matthew 25:31-46 ESV / 16 helpful votes
“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, ...

Psalm 125:1 ESV / 16 helpful votes
A Song of Ascents. Those who trust in the Lord are like Mount Zion, which cannot be moved, but abides forever.

Titus 2:11-14 ESV / 15 helpful votes
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age, waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.

Revelation 3:5 ESV / 14 helpful votes
The one who conquers will be clothed thus in white garments, and I will never blot his name out of the book of life. I will confess his name before my Father and before his angels.

Jude 1:5 ESV / 14 helpful votes
Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.

Philippians 4:5-9 ESV / 14 helpful votes
Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand; do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. What you have learned and received and heard and seen in me—practice these things, and the God of peace will be with you.

2 Corinthians 1:22 ESV / 14 helpful votes
And who has also put his seal on us and given us his Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.

John 6:50-71 ESV / 14 helpful votes
This is the bread that comes down from heaven, so that one may eat of it and not die. I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.” The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?” So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. ...

Revelation 22:19 ESV / 13 helpful votes
And if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 ESV / 13 helpful votes
But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. ...

Philippians 2:12 ESV / 12 helpful votes
Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling,

Ephesians 1:13 ESV / 12 helpful votes
In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

1 Corinthians 10:1-14 ESV / 12 helpful votes
For I want you to know, brothers, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, and all ate the same spiritual food, and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank from the spiritual Rock that followed them, and the Rock was Christ. Nevertheless, with most of them God was not pleased, for they were overthrown in the wilderness. ...

John 14:16 ESV / 12 helpful votes
And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever,

John 8:32 ESV / 12 helpful votes
And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

1 John 2:19 ESV / 10 helpful votes
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.

Ephesians 3:20 ESV / 10 helpful votes
Now to him who is able to do far more abundantly than all that we ask or think, according to the power at work within us,

Acts 2:38-39 ESV / 10 helpful votes
And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.”

John 10:28 ESV / 10 helpful votes
I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.

1 John 3:6 ESV / 9 helpful votes
No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him.

Hebrews 13:5 ESV / 9 helpful votes
Keep your life free from love of money, and be content with what you have, for he has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.”

Hebrews 3:14 ESV / 9 helpful votes
For we have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original confidence firm to the end.

On a separate note a persons value at any given point in time is comprised of 100s of variables and each variable in the equation is weighted differently. Each variable would take a tremendous about of investigating to ascertain the value of that variable. I believe this notion is absolutely necessary for any forum topic unless that forum topic is what is the best flavor of ice cream.

TuxAme said:

How could Jesus be the farmer if He were going to shoot us to "send us off to eternity"? I think the presence of Jesus, and the fact that we are on His Land, would suggest that we are already in Heaven, wouldn't it?

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i disagree. Do you believe Jesus watches his flock of horses and sheep?

TuxAme said:

How could Jesus be the farmer if He were going to shoot us to "send us off to eternity"? I think the presence of Jesus, and the fact that we are on His Land, would suggest that we are already in Heaven, wouldn't it?

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why can't Jesus have his own land on this crappy planet. Perhaps the planet is big enough for some of the land to be his.

On a separate note a persons value at any given point in time is comprised of 100s of variables and each variable in the equation is weighted differently. Each variable would take a tremendous about of investigating to ascertain the value of that variable. I believe this notion is absolutely necessary for any forum topic unless that forum topic is what is the best flavor of ice cream.

Gr8Grace said:

Where does the bible refer to us(believers/born again children/ saved) as a 'horse?'

Curious~~ What does a shepherd do with a SHEEP with a broken leg?

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Sometimes sheep are slaughtered for meat. Jesus gets hungry. Please see the OP. I would rather be slaughtered for meat then to suffer in hell forever. Wouldn't you?

See you in heaven brother.

On a separate note a persons value at any given point in time is comprised of 100s of variables
and each variable in the equation is weighted differently. Each variable would take a tremendous about of
investigating to ascertain the value of that variable. I believe this notion is absolutely necessary for
any forum topic unless that forum topic is what is the best flavor of ice cream.

Gr8Grace said:

Where does the bible refer to us(believers/born again children/ saved) as a 'horse?'

Curious~~ What does a shepherd do with a SHEEP with a broken leg?

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I see a sheep unwilling to die and go to heaven as a form of cowardice. Salvation is easy because Jesus makes it easy. Its this world that is bad.

On a separate note a persons value at any given point in time is comprised of 100s of variables
and each variable in the equation is weighted differently. Each variable would take a tremendous about of
investigating to ascertain the value of that variable. I believe this notion is absolutely necessary for
any forum topic unless that forum topic is what is the best flavor of ice cream.

Gr8Grace said:

Where does the bible refer to us(believers/born again children/ saved) as a 'horse?'

Curious~~ What does a shepherd do with a SHEEP with a broken leg?

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Pick a verse that i listed and we can discuss it. I think some NOSAS christians are predestined to reject the truth about OSAS.

Gr8Grace said:

Not for believers. This is what you seem to not understand.

At salvation, we have the very righteousness of the Lord Jesus Christ. 1 variable. HE is the way and the truth and the life.

religion puts the '100's of variables' on folks...........not the Lord Jesus Christ.

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Prove it with the Bible. So basically your saying i'm better than you? Or do you think your better than me? Remember what you just quoted was a side note. I'm not provoking you. You should have recognized that quote as a way to ease tensions on an online forum.

I think NOSAS are predestined to be christians that reject the truth of OSAS

This was the original quote:

On a separate note a persons value at any given point in time is comprised of 100s of variables
and each variable in the equation is weighted differently. Each variable would take a tremendous about of
investigating to ascertain the value of that variable. I believe this notion is absolutely necessary for
any forum topic unless that forum topic is what is the best flavor of ice cream.

I stated my case. I quoted the scripture quite well. Some of you are hardened to believe Jesus doesn't look after the people who are saved. I'll see you all in heaven.

On a separate note a persons value at any given point in time is comprised of 100s of variables
and each variable in the equation is weighted differently. Each variable would take a tremendous about of
investigating to ascertain the value of that variable. I believe this notion is absolutely necessary for
any forum topic unless that forum topic is what is the best flavor of ice cream.