Different Views of the Lord's Supper

thecolorsblend said:

Nonsense, I said no such thing.

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It reminds me of something I've noticed. I've seen more Christians that don't understand the difference between something being necessary for salvation , and something being objectively true. In fact the idea of truth claims subject to scrutiny seems to have gone out the window for some Neo-Pentecostals, who have seemed to have succumbed to the worst excesses of this era. Everything is about personal experience now. Feelz 'R' Realz.

thecolorsblend said:

That alone tells me who built it. Wikipedia verifies it but I called it even before then.

Typical, really.

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It looks like something from Dune, like a place you'ld go to follow Zensunni Islam and read the Orange Catholic Bible. So they are way ahead of the curve.

FireDragon76 said:

It looks like something from Dune, like a place you'ld go to follow Zensunni Islam and read the Orange Catholic Bible. So they are way ahead of the curve.

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Is it any wonder that some of us prefer parishes like this one?





There is (or can be) an aesthetic to worship. This parish has actual character and an architectural tradition within which it functions. It facilitates worship while symbolizing the unique history by which that type of Christian worship came to that part of the world.

To put this post more on topic, this parish looks to have an altar rail for receiving the Eucharist.

thecolorsblend said:

Is it any wonder that some of us prefer parishes like this one?

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There is (or can be) an aesthetic to worship. This parish has actual character and an architectural tradition within which it functions. It facilitates worship while symbolizing the unique history by which that type of Christian worship came to that part of the world.

To put this post more on topic, this parish looks to have an altar rail for receiving the Eucharist.

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I like the Christus Rex, that's one of my favorite styles of crucifix. I actually made one of those for my living room.

Pastor and I are trying to figure out how to get a crucifix into our church through the church council, but it has to blend with the architecture we have ,which is like 1950's danish modern.

The big cross with a bunch of little crosses behind it, though , is sort of interesting from a symbolic perspective ... and it beats having a blank wall, which is what most Methodist and Presbyterian churches around here have. And perhaps we shouldn't change anything, because it's 60 years old as of last week, which is historic by the standards of Orlando.

thecolorsblend said:

Nonsense, I said no such thing.

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You said that protestants are missing Salvation critical doctrines. That means we dont have doctrine critical to our salvation, iow we are not saved

W2L said:

You said that protestants are missing Salvation critical doctrines. That means we dont have doctrine critical to our salvation, iow we are not saved

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I know TCB is big enough to fight for himself, however you are unfair in missing what he was saying, not only to him but also to yourself.

TCB cast a broad net about the way liberal Protestantism is developing and by implication asking a critical question about what is central to the sacred deposit of faith and what is ancillary to it. When it comes to 'the Lords Supper' or whatever term is used for it, the question is asked is this central to the sacred deposit of faith or not. That is relevant given that Jesus did say 'do this in remembrance / as my anamnesis'. That the breaking of the bread is ancient, Dominical, and very important to many Christians throughout the centuries ad, it is reasonable to ask if the Eucharist is central, or is the Mass just an extra bit on the side.

The other part of the question TCB posed is how far can you go till you are no longer in touch with the sacred deposit of faith? That is a long way from saying that Protestants are not saved.

W2L said:

You said that protestants are missing Salvation critical doctrines. That means we dont have doctrine critical to our salvation, iow we are not saved

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What I said is that some Protestants don't recognize certain doctrines as critical to salvation. And between themselves, they don't necessarily agree on what those doctrines are. In some cases, they might not even believe that any doctrine is critical for one's salvation.

If I was saying what you think, there wouldn't be any mystery about it. I would be direct. But I didn't say that stuff.

thecolorsblend said:

What I said is that some Protestants don't recognize certain doctrines as critical to salvation.

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Ok, you said:

Today, there are few salvation-critical doctrines in the universe of Protestantism.

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W2L said:

Ok, you said:

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Indeed. And it seems you're still misunderstanding what I wrote.

thecolorsblend said:

Indeed. And it seems you're still misunderstanding what I wrote.

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Ok.

thecolorsblend said:

Today, there are few salvation-critical doctrines in the universe of Protestantism.

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thecolorsblend said:

What I said is that some Protestants don't recognize certain doctrines as critical to salvation.

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That doesn't tell us much of anything. Which Protestants do you have in mind? And what are the doctrines?