Ramadan is now over...
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Where did The Ramadan tradition originate ? Wasn't there a period, date or season where this holiday existed when Mohammad was a little boy ?
Was not the day / date of “ Ramadan “ a day practiced as a festival in Pre - Islamic Arabia.
The very name “ Ramān “ is the very name of a south Arabian deity / god ... the god of wind and storms - worshiped by the Sabaeans and was envisioned to be a warrior that rode on the clouds. This god was the South Arabian counterpart of the Aramaean god Rimmon and the Babylonian Rammanu. Rama is one of the most widely worshipped Hindu deities, the embodiment of chivalry and virtue.
The Islamic sources say - Bukhari 5:58:172 – Narrated Aisha: ‘Ashura was a day on which the tribe of Quraish used to fast in the pre - Islamic period of ignorance. The Prophet also used to fast on this day. So when he migrated to Medina, he fasted on it and ordered (the Muslims) to fast on it. When the fasting of Ramadan was enjoined.
Who was Mohammad's father's name ( previously } represent - before Islam- Does anyone remember the name of Mohammad's father ? I will look it up and see if I can find it,
Was not the day / date of “ Ramadan “ a day practiced as a festival in Pre - Islamic Arabia.
The very name “ Ramān “ is the very name of a south Arabian deity / god ... the god of wind and storms - worshiped by the Sabaeans and was envisioned to be a warrior that rode on the clouds. This god was the South Arabian counterpart of the Aramaean god Rimmon and the Babylonian Rammanu. Rama is one of the most widely worshipped Hindu deities, the embodiment of chivalry and virtue.
The Islamic sources say - Bukhari 5:58:172 – Narrated Aisha: ‘Ashura was a day on which the tribe of Quraish used to fast in the pre - Islamic period of ignorance. The Prophet also used to fast on this day. So when he migrated to Medina, he fasted on it and ordered (the Muslims) to fast on it. When the fasting of Ramadan was enjoined.
Who was Mohammad's father's name ( previously } represent - before Islam- Does anyone remember the name of Mohammad's father ? I will look it up and see if I can find it,
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Yes, Silence is always an option - however, silence is not an answer. ` And even a fool can ask all of the right questions while the wisest among us never seek answers to neither wize or foolish questions
I remember that it was = Abd Allāh - that was the name of Mohammad's father.
- many of Mohammad's closest companions and closest relatives are nearly all named after PAGAN DEITIES - Such as his closest companion named " Malik al-Ashtar " - " Astarte " was a major Pre - Islamic Pagan goddess = Ashtoreth. - Another one of Mohammad’ s companions is named " Anas ibn " Nadhar " And we find that this is a very popular Pagan temple called the " Nadhar " Temple. - located in India, dedicated to many gods and goddesses.
If You go through all of the many companions of Mohammad - You find that many of them have names that refer to Pre Islamic PAGAN deities and acts of worship and adoration, praise and honor to something formed from the pagan world. But we do not know all of them - because Mohammad destroyed 360 different pagan idols that had existed at His time and their history and names and characters are completely erased from all history. We do not even know half of them and the ones we do know were found by Non-Muslims and external Islamic sources. Muslims provide no history, information or knowledge of anything from the Pre Islamic world.
Muslims literally treated the entire Pre Islamic world just exactly as treated - the entire Gospels and the Torah. - completely, smashed into dust, destroyed and nothing but trash and scraps of rubble that never mattered. Who was the deity called Allah – whom Mohammad's father was named after ?
We have such as the companions - " Abu Dardaa " = named after the Pagan god - 1" Abadar " - the pagan god who founded cities - we could go through every single last one of the family members, companions, friends, servants and converts of Islam - in Mohammad’ s time and many, many of them have names that refer to PAGAN DEITIES and worship. - - " The Kaaba " - is another striking reality. - The Fact is - The Kaaba is the very name of the Pre - Islamic Temple. : in the city of Mecca that held the 360 pagan idols until the rise of Islam in 7th century. - Murrah ibn " Ka'b " - was Mohammad’ s great, great, great, great, great grand father. He was also named after this Pagan Temple - His last name was " Ka'b " indicating = Kaaba.
Even after Mohammad had received His revelations, prophecies and spiritual claims and AFTER He claimed to begin to serve the God Of Abraham - The Muslims still continued - to call this Pagan Temple by the same exact name. - They still continued to call their Abrahamic " temple as the same Pagan TITLE " The Kaaba " And Mohammad continued running and circling the Kabba in ceremonies with the pagans around Him – even after He converted to Islam – He continued to practice their paganism with them in the Quran – even when the Kabba was filled with these 360 pagan Idols.
Also the name " lib Baal " - comes from the pagan god = " Ag - libol " - Ag - libaal was a Pre - Islamic Pagan god. " Ag - libol " - was a lunar deity. His name means "Calf / leg of Bel" (" Calf of the Lord"). leg of the god = - -it is also a fact that The Quran notes that one of the few body parts that " ALLAH " has - is a shin. - the shin is located just behind the calf muscle. The leg of Allah is mentioned in the Quran. -The Arabian Pagan god = " Ag - libaal " is depicted with a lunar halo decorating his head and sometimes his shoulders, and one of his attributes is the sickle moon.
" Hubba " bint Hulail - was Mohammad's great-great-great-grandfather. = " Hub -bal and " was the main and the very top - Pre - Islamic Pagan god, worshipped by the Quraysh ( Mohammad’ s very own family ) at the Kaaba in Mecca. This idol was a human figure that controlled divination and power. "Haubas" was another Arabian Pagan God, worshipped for His advice - via consultation with oracles.
* " Nasr " - is a common male name given to Muslims = " Nasr " was a Pre - Islamic Pagan god. Nasr was a south Arabian god of the deep desert whose idol was a sculpture of a large vulture (in some sources an eagle) that was situated in a temple in the village of Balkha in Yemen where he was worshiped by the people of the Arabian Himyar tribe. "Asar"is also the name of a Pre - Islamic northern Arabian Equestrian god.
* Fatimah bint " Sa’ d " - was the maternal great-great-great-grandmother of Muhammad. = " Sa'd " was a Pre - Islamic Pagan god. Sa'd was a god of fortune in pre-Islamic Arabia, by the Banu Kinanah tribe. His image was a tall stone
* " Salma " bint `Amr - was the paternal great-grandfather of Muhammad. = And Umm " Salama " was one of Mohammad’ s wives = " Salm " was a Pre - Islamic Pagan god. Salm was a northern Arabian tutelary, protector, guardian god personified by a stone carved with schematic anthropomorphic features and a winged disk.
* And Mohammad’ s uncle was called " Abd al-Muttalib " = - " Ta'lab " was a Pre - Islamic Pagan god. Ta'lab was god of the moon. His oracle was consulted for advice.
* Kilab ibn Mur " rah " was the son of Mohamad = "'Ra" was a Pre - Islamic Pagan god. a holy place or an altar, but its Arabic root also means "to dye.
* Hashim ibn Abd " Manaf " was the great-grandfather of Mohammad. = And " Manat " was a Pre - Islamic Pagan god. " Manāt " was believed to be the goddess of Mecca - the goddess fate.
* Abd al- " Uzza " was the name of one of Mohammad’ s uncles. = " Abd al- " Uzza " was a Pre - Islamic Pagan goddess - sometimes believed to be god - male.
* " Abu U " Baid-ah " was one of Companions of Muhammad. Mostly known for His participation in the first major battle between the Muslims and the Quraysh tribe of Mecca, at the Battle of Bad. ( 624AD )
There " Abu Ubaidah " - fought and murdered his very own father Abdullah ibn al-Jarrah, who was fighting alongside the army of Quraysh.
In a discovered - Pre - Islamic location called - Tell al- " Ubaid " - located in southern Iraq where many, many artifacts have been found containing Idols of with many, many crescent moons upon them. The Companion of Mohammad who was named " Baid-ah " / “ baid “ also comes from the word " WORSHIP " The word " Eibada " means to worship in Arabic. - Also, Mohammed’ s real name was - " Ahmad " meaning = " THE PRAISED ONE " What pagan deity or ceremony was Mohammad named after - Mohammad never tells anyone – and He never gives a confession of His faith. WE DO NOT KNOW who or what Mohammad was worshiping or what He was doing before He converted to Islam. - The activities, duties and faiths and acts and doings of each and every single last converted Muslim and what they prayed to – what god they served - - all of this information has been erased and completely ignored, unmentioned and totally deleted from all records. - What pagan deity was Mohammad's name referring to - " Ahmad " meaning = " THE PRAISED ONE " what deity was Mohammad praising ? by having a name called " THE PRAISED ONE "
We find so many names of the family and friends of Mohammad who are named after Pagan deities - with worship and adoration to these names of these very pagan deities contained in most of their names. - - - Here is a long list.List of Sahabah - Wikipedia
* This is some of what we know about the family and of Mohammad - and this is His immediate family and companions - what about the rest of the names of the rest of His tribe in how they related to these 360 pagan deities - we have no record of it....
HOWEVER = " Abd - Allāh " being the name of Mohammad's very father. = who was " ALLAH " in the Pre - Islamic world - what pagan deity was " allah " ? Who was " ALLAH " in the Pre - Islamic world - what pagan deity was " allah " ? What deity - was Mohammad’ s father actually named after what was he doing ? Mohammad never tells anything about His own father.
Since there is no " iLLA " god - except for " allah " = who was the Allah ? Who was Mohammad's fathers pagan named representing ? I would like the answer to this question.
I remember that it was = Abd Allāh - that was the name of Mohammad's father.
- many of Mohammad's closest companions and closest relatives are nearly all named after PAGAN DEITIES - Such as his closest companion named " Malik al-Ashtar " - " Astarte " was a major Pre - Islamic Pagan goddess = Ashtoreth. - Another one of Mohammad’ s companions is named " Anas ibn " Nadhar " And we find that this is a very popular Pagan temple called the " Nadhar " Temple. - located in India, dedicated to many gods and goddesses.
If You go through all of the many companions of Mohammad - You find that many of them have names that refer to Pre Islamic PAGAN deities and acts of worship and adoration, praise and honor to something formed from the pagan world. But we do not know all of them - because Mohammad destroyed 360 different pagan idols that had existed at His time and their history and names and characters are completely erased from all history. We do not even know half of them and the ones we do know were found by Non-Muslims and external Islamic sources. Muslims provide no history, information or knowledge of anything from the Pre Islamic world.
Muslims literally treated the entire Pre Islamic world just exactly as treated - the entire Gospels and the Torah. - completely, smashed into dust, destroyed and nothing but trash and scraps of rubble that never mattered. Who was the deity called Allah – whom Mohammad's father was named after ?
We have such as the companions - " Abu Dardaa " = named after the Pagan god - 1" Abadar " - the pagan god who founded cities - we could go through every single last one of the family members, companions, friends, servants and converts of Islam - in Mohammad’ s time and many, many of them have names that refer to PAGAN DEITIES and worship. - - " The Kaaba " - is another striking reality. - The Fact is - The Kaaba is the very name of the Pre - Islamic Temple. : in the city of Mecca that held the 360 pagan idols until the rise of Islam in 7th century. - Murrah ibn " Ka'b " - was Mohammad’ s great, great, great, great, great grand father. He was also named after this Pagan Temple - His last name was " Ka'b " indicating = Kaaba.
Even after Mohammad had received His revelations, prophecies and spiritual claims and AFTER He claimed to begin to serve the God Of Abraham - The Muslims still continued - to call this Pagan Temple by the same exact name. - They still continued to call their Abrahamic " temple as the same Pagan TITLE " The Kaaba " And Mohammad continued running and circling the Kabba in ceremonies with the pagans around Him – even after He converted to Islam – He continued to practice their paganism with them in the Quran – even when the Kabba was filled with these 360 pagan Idols.
Also the name " lib Baal " - comes from the pagan god = " Ag - libol " - Ag - libaal was a Pre - Islamic Pagan god. " Ag - libol " - was a lunar deity. His name means "Calf / leg of Bel" (" Calf of the Lord"). leg of the god = - -it is also a fact that The Quran notes that one of the few body parts that " ALLAH " has - is a shin. - the shin is located just behind the calf muscle. The leg of Allah is mentioned in the Quran. -The Arabian Pagan god = " Ag - libaal " is depicted with a lunar halo decorating his head and sometimes his shoulders, and one of his attributes is the sickle moon.
" Hubba " bint Hulail - was Mohammad's great-great-great-grandfather. = " Hub -bal and " was the main and the very top - Pre - Islamic Pagan god, worshipped by the Quraysh ( Mohammad’ s very own family ) at the Kaaba in Mecca. This idol was a human figure that controlled divination and power. "Haubas" was another Arabian Pagan God, worshipped for His advice - via consultation with oracles.
* " Nasr " - is a common male name given to Muslims = " Nasr " was a Pre - Islamic Pagan god. Nasr was a south Arabian god of the deep desert whose idol was a sculpture of a large vulture (in some sources an eagle) that was situated in a temple in the village of Balkha in Yemen where he was worshiped by the people of the Arabian Himyar tribe. "Asar"is also the name of a Pre - Islamic northern Arabian Equestrian god.
* Fatimah bint " Sa’ d " - was the maternal great-great-great-grandmother of Muhammad. = " Sa'd " was a Pre - Islamic Pagan god. Sa'd was a god of fortune in pre-Islamic Arabia, by the Banu Kinanah tribe. His image was a tall stone
* " Salma " bint `Amr - was the paternal great-grandfather of Muhammad. = And Umm " Salama " was one of Mohammad’ s wives = " Salm " was a Pre - Islamic Pagan god. Salm was a northern Arabian tutelary, protector, guardian god personified by a stone carved with schematic anthropomorphic features and a winged disk.
* And Mohammad’ s uncle was called " Abd al-Muttalib " = - " Ta'lab " was a Pre - Islamic Pagan god. Ta'lab was god of the moon. His oracle was consulted for advice.
* Kilab ibn Mur " rah " was the son of Mohamad = "'Ra" was a Pre - Islamic Pagan god. a holy place or an altar, but its Arabic root also means "to dye.
* Hashim ibn Abd " Manaf " was the great-grandfather of Mohammad. = And " Manat " was a Pre - Islamic Pagan god. " Manāt " was believed to be the goddess of Mecca - the goddess fate.
* Abd al- " Uzza " was the name of one of Mohammad’ s uncles. = " Abd al- " Uzza " was a Pre - Islamic Pagan goddess - sometimes believed to be god - male.
* " Abu U " Baid-ah " was one of Companions of Muhammad. Mostly known for His participation in the first major battle between the Muslims and the Quraysh tribe of Mecca, at the Battle of Bad. ( 624AD )
There " Abu Ubaidah " - fought and murdered his very own father Abdullah ibn al-Jarrah, who was fighting alongside the army of Quraysh.
In a discovered - Pre - Islamic location called - Tell al- " Ubaid " - located in southern Iraq where many, many artifacts have been found containing Idols of with many, many crescent moons upon them. The Companion of Mohammad who was named " Baid-ah " / “ baid “ also comes from the word " WORSHIP " The word " Eibada " means to worship in Arabic. - Also, Mohammed’ s real name was - " Ahmad " meaning = " THE PRAISED ONE " What pagan deity or ceremony was Mohammad named after - Mohammad never tells anyone – and He never gives a confession of His faith. WE DO NOT KNOW who or what Mohammad was worshiping or what He was doing before He converted to Islam. - The activities, duties and faiths and acts and doings of each and every single last converted Muslim and what they prayed to – what god they served - - all of this information has been erased and completely ignored, unmentioned and totally deleted from all records. - What pagan deity was Mohammad's name referring to - " Ahmad " meaning = " THE PRAISED ONE " what deity was Mohammad praising ? by having a name called " THE PRAISED ONE "
We find so many names of the family and friends of Mohammad who are named after Pagan deities - with worship and adoration to these names of these very pagan deities contained in most of their names. - - - Here is a long list.List of Sahabah - Wikipedia
* This is some of what we know about the family and of Mohammad - and this is His immediate family and companions - what about the rest of the names of the rest of His tribe in how they related to these 360 pagan deities - we have no record of it....
HOWEVER = " Abd - Allāh " being the name of Mohammad's very father. = who was " ALLAH " in the Pre - Islamic world - what pagan deity was " allah " ? Who was " ALLAH " in the Pre - Islamic world - what pagan deity was " allah " ? What deity - was Mohammad’ s father actually named after what was he doing ? Mohammad never tells anything about His own father.
Since there is no " iLLA " god - except for " allah " = who was the Allah ? Who was Mohammad's fathers pagan named representing ? I would like the answer to this question.
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