Did Jesus sin when His feet were on the Earth?

Pethesedzao · Jan 4, 2019

ViaCrucis said:
That never happened. The Father never turned His face away from His beloved Son. That is a modern heresy.

-CryptoLutheran

Jesus went into the lower parts, forsaken by the Father.

Pethesedzao · Jan 4, 2019

Southernscotty said:
1 Peter 2:22 WHO COMMITTED NO SIN, NOR WAS ANY DECEIT FOUND IN HIS MOUTH;
2 Cor 5:21 He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
1 John 3:5
You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin.

In Him there was no sin until He went to the Cross

Pethesedzao · Jan 4, 2019

Dave-W said:
If HE ever sinned in any way whatsoever, it would have invalidated HIM from being our saving sacrifice for sins.

Yes, if Jesus had ever sinned before the Cross.

Pethesedzao · Jan 4, 2019

jesus316 said:
No. Jesus was sinless. Jesus is fully God as second person of the Trinity and cannot sin.

Yes but before the Cross.

Pethesedzao · Jan 4, 2019

ViaCrucis said:
No. That's a false reading of Scripture.

-CryptoLutheran

It's the truth.

Pethesedzao · Jan 4, 2019

Strong in Him said:
You keep repeating that, do not offer Scripture to support it but ignore the Scriptures that others post.

If you know everything (God does) then you will never ever ask why.

Pethesedzao · Jan 4, 2019

SaintCody777 said:
Of course not! Jesus never ever sinned not even once. This is why He is called the "New Adam." The previous Adam fell into disobedience and destroyed the perfect utopia. Jesus, On the other hand, took the just penalty and suffering for guilty sinners on His own hands, so that He can reopen the door to paradise for those who believe in Him (John 3:16).

Jesus sinned on the Cross by asking why. God never ever questions Himself.

ViaCrucis · Jan 4, 2019

Pethesedzao said:
Jesus went into the lower parts, forsaken by the Father.

He descended into the place of the dead, but was definitely not forsaken by the Father.

-CryptoLutheran

ViaCrucis · Jan 4, 2019

Pethesedzao said:
Jesus sinned on the Cross by asking why. God never ever questions Himself.

It's not a sin to ask why, and Jesus was quoting the Psalms.

-CryptoLutheran

ViaCrucis · Jan 4, 2019

Pethesedzao said:
It's the truth.

Not even remotely. You are hung up on this idea that asking God "why" is a sin, the passages you've provided to back such a notion up do not support this idea of yours. The Father never abandoned His Son, and the Son never fell short of His Father. Even in death the Son of God was in perfect union with His Father. The Church proclaims that Hades took a man and encountered God, it took earth and encountered Heaven--and when it did so it was despoiled. The death of Christ is not defeat, but victory; for death is swallowed up in victory. He is risen.

"Christ is risen from the dead,
Trampling down death by death,
And to those in the tombs,
Bestowing life."

-CryptoLutheran

Pethesedzao · Jan 4, 2019

ViaCrucis said:
Not even remotely. You are hung up on this idea that asking God "why" is a sin, the passages you've provided to back such a notion up do not support this idea of yours. The Father never abandoned His Son, and the Son never fell short of His Father. Even in death the Son of God was in perfect union with His Father. The Church proclaims that Hades took a man and encountered God, it took earth and encountered Heaven--and when it did so it was despoiled. The death of Christ is not defeat, but victory; for death is swallowed up in victory. He is risen.

"Christ is risen from the dead,
Trampling down death by death,
And to those in the tombs,
Bestowing life."

-CryptoLutheran

The faith of God never ever asks why

Strong in Him · Jan 4, 2019

Pethesedzao said:
If you know everything (God does) then you will never ever ask why.

No, that's your idea/logic. You have no Scriptural verses, or Christian teaching, to support it.

As I've said before, God asked, "where are you?" to Adam in the Garden.
When Jesus was on earth he said to people "what do you want me to do for you?" "what is your name?" "Where do you live?" etc etc.
You yourself have, rightly, said that Jesus didn't sin while he was on earth - therefore it cannot have been a sin for him to have asked these questions. And if you say that it WAS a sin, then your statement that Jesus never sinned was wrong.

Strong in Him · Jan 4, 2019

Pethesedzao said:
The faith of God never ever asks why

Repeating the same statement over and over again, does not make it true.

Strong in Him · Jan 4, 2019

Pethesedzao said:
Jesus sinned on the Cross by asking why.

If Jesus sinned on the cross, then he was not the spotless Lamb of God that Scripture - which is God's word - says that he was, 1 Peter 1:19.
Also, if he was not sinless then he didn't die for our sins - meaning that you don't have a Saviour.

Strong in Him · Jan 4, 2019

Pethesedzao said:
It's the truth.

Then you'll have no problem with quoting Scriptures to prove it.
Jesus is THE truth, John 14:6 - and he never said such a thing.

Pethesedzao · Jan 4, 2019

ViaCrucis said:
Not even remotely. You are hung up on this idea that asking God "why" is a sin, the passages you've provided to back such a notion up do not support this idea of yours. The Father never abandoned His Son, and the Son never fell short of His Father. Even in death the Son of God was in perfect union with His Father. The Church proclaims that Hades took a man and encountered God, it took earth and encountered Heaven--and when it did so it was despoiled. The death of Christ is not defeat, but victory; for death is swallowed up in victory. He is risen.

"Christ is risen from the dead,
Trampling down death by death,
And to those in the tombs,
Bestowing life."

-CryptoLutheran

Jesus should never have been forsaken by The Father in the first place; But because He chose me before the foundation of the world He allowed Him to suffer and die for me. Because of that predestination it was a sin to ask why...

Strong in Him · Jan 4, 2019

Pethesedzao said:
Jesus should never have been forsaken by The Father in the first place;

Really? You're telling God that he shouldn't have done something in regard to his own Son? That's brave.

Pethesedzao said:
Because of that predestination it was a sin to ask why...

Again, if he sinned when he asked "why?", then he did not die for you.
If Jesus sinned then he was not spotless and not able to bear your sins because he had sins of his own.

mcarans · Jan 4, 2019

When Jesus went to the temple without telling His earthly parents, so that they were left hunting for Him, one could argue that this was a sin (not obeying or honouring parents) even if His reason of needing to be in His Father's house was perfectly valid. If my son disappeared on me like that, I'd be less than pleased!

Pethesedzao · Jan 4, 2019

Strong in Him said:
Really? You're telling God that he shouldn't have done something in regard to his own Son? That's brave.

Again, if he sinned when he asked "why?", then he did not die for you.
If Jesus sinned then he was not spotless and not able to bear your sins because he had sins of his own.

Jesus was sinless and spotless before the Cross. If you take the example of Job and his suffering one can see that asking why is not the glory of God.

Pethesedzao · Jan 4, 2019

Strong in Him said:
Then you'll have no problem with quoting Scriptures to prove it.
Jesus is THE truth, John 14:6 - and he never said such a thing.

Have you considered Job?

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