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Tanakh is an acronym of the first Hebrew letter of each of the Masoretic Text's three traditional subdivisions: Torah ("Teaching", also known as the Five Books of Moses), Nevi'im ("Prophets") and Ketuvim ("Writings")—hence TaNaKh.


Jer 31:33 doesn't limit "Torah" to the Ten Commandments or to just moral laws and neither should we.
Well, i can't say the whole Torah is written in my heart, or maybe i don't know what it actually means to have the Torah written in my heart..
 
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Yes, and the symbolism most miss on that flag is the blue stripes. You say they did not believe in Yeshua, but they did believe in him through his Father. Those blue stripes represent the blue cord in the tzitzit that are to remind us of his commandments, covenant and God in heaven.

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"How could four people — one in Switzerland, one in Israel, and two in the United States — come up with the same flag design? Was it just a coincidence, or could it have been something supernatural in nature?

I would argue that the Lord moved on their hearts with the same design and did so to affirm the fact that their design was the one that should be adopted by the new state
(Nation).

The Star of David — Many sources claim this symbol did not originate until the Middle Ages, but that is not true. It can be found on the frieze of the 2nd Century synagogue in Capernaum. It also appears as part of the 1st Century symbol of the Messianic Church, which combined the symbols of the menorah, the star of David and the fish."


I cannot agree though that anyone who believes in Jesus is an automatic Messianic Jew, unless they were Jewish in the first place. ;)
After reading Cody's convictions (post #95) it just seemed that he is actually more Jewish than a secular Jewish citizen of Israel that doesn't know G-D or an Orthodox Jewish citizen that doesn't know Yeshua HaMashiach as their L-RD.

1 Samuel 16:7
But the LORD said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the LORD sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.”

Romans 2:28-29
28 For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical.
29 But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter. His praise is not from man but from God.

And besides nare we forget Paul's admonition ...

Galatians 3:26-28
26 For in union with the Messiah, you are all children of God through this trusting faithfulness;
27 because as many of you as were immersed into the Messiah have clothed yourselves with the Messiah, in whom
28 there is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor freeman, neither male nor female; for in union with the Messiah Yeshua, you are all one.
 
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Well, i can't say the whole Torah is written in my heart, or maybe i don't know what it actually means to have the Torah written in my heart..
I am of the opinion that it is written there when we choose to obey it. For example, when I first received Yeshua as my Savior I was not a Sabbath keeper. After I studied it and accepted it as a commandment for NC believers, it was written on my heart.
 
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Visionary had posted an image of a carved relief of the Magen David, which was found at the Capernaum synagogue, and while searching for other image files of the same I discovered that there are three or four other such six point images found in the same location; one of which was a carved image of the six point lily, (going back to some comments from Lulav earlier). All of the following are from the same Capernaum synagogue:

Six-petal lily:
capernaum.jpg

http://www.battzion.org/magendavid.html

Magen David weave with pomegranate center:
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http://star-of-david.blogspot.com/2012/03/hexagram-designs-and-meanings.html

Magen David with six, (side view), lilies roundabout:
Capernaum-straight+lines-A.jpg

http://star-of-david.blogspot.com/2012/03/hexagram-designs-and-meanings.html

Another Magen David found at the same location:
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http://ourlifeisaroadtrip.blogspot.com/2011_01_01_archive.html
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Yes, and the symbolism most miss on that flag is the blue stripes. You say they did not believe in Yeshua, but they did believe in him through his Father. Those blue stripes represent the blue cord in the tzitzit that are to remind us of his commandments, covenant and God in heaven.

I cannot agree though that anyone who believes in Jesus is an automatic Messianic Jew, unless they were Jewish in the first place. ;)
A Messianic Jew is any person who believes Yahshua is the Messiah, and in the keeping of circumcision and the Festivals. (The Mosaic Laws)
 
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Isn't it interesting that the Exodus wilderness Tabernacle could look like this? http://project314.org/images/-home/NewTent.jpg

No. Judging by the text it would be four-sided, just like the temple of Solomon and the temple of Ezra/Herod. And just like the ark within it.

It literally had the same rectangular shape as the mesopotamian architecture it was based on.

Middle-eastern/mesopotamian temples always had four sides, one side (usually the entrance) directly facing the east.

The same architectural style applied to the temple.
 
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Google "star of Moloch"
It has nothing to do with David, but Solomon fell for what it symbolises.
It's also known as the seal of Solomon.

DaviD has two dalets in it.

Dalet originally looked like a triangle.

Two dalets superimposed over one another = two triangles superimoposed over one another = star of DaviD.

The exact same is the case with the Greek letter Delta. Two Deltas superimposed equals a star of DaviD.
 
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Beautiful. Are you suggesting the Star of David is modeled after this plant? There are probably many things in nature that have six points, but none that have overlapping triangles.
 
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DaviD has two dalets in it.

Dalet originally looked like a triangle.
Do you have any info stating the dalet looked like a triangle in David's day as opposed to looking like the number 4 as in Paleo-Hebrew?

Two dalets superimposed over one another = two triangles superimoposed over one another = star of DaviD.
This sounds like wishful thinking. Do you have any evidence to support this?
 
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Do you have any info stating the dalet looked like a triangle in David's day as opposed to looking like the number 4 as in Paleo-Hebrew?


This sounds like wishful thinking. Do you have any evidence to support this?


Paleo-Hebrew / Phoenician Dalet looked like a triangle. Everybody knows this. Research it yourself if you're interested in it. I can't do your research for you.
Just google "dalet paleo-hebrew" or something.

If you take two triangles and superimpose them over each other, you get a hexagram. That's just a fact.

This is very obvious and non-controversial, but it sounds like this means a lot to you and I don't have the energy to engage in a argument with you on this anti-intellectual website.

The origin of the Magen David is not of any import to me. Prove me wrong in regards to its origins if you want, it is not of any concern to me.
 
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If you take two triangles and superimpose them over each other, you get a hexagram. That's just a fact.
Yes, that is a fact. Whether or not that is how the Star of David came about is an assumption.

This is very obvious and non-controversial, but it sounds like this means a lot to you and I don't have the energy to engage in a argument with you on this anti-intellectual website.

The origin of the Magen David is not of any import to me. Prove me wrong in regards to its origins if you want, it is not of any concern to me.
So if the Star of David is really the idolatrous Star of Remphan mentioned in Acts 7:43, that would not concern you?
 
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"How could four people — one in Switzerland, one in Israel, and two in the United States — come up with the same flag design? Was it just a coincidence, or could it have been something supernatural in nature?

I would argue that the Lord moved on their hearts with the same design and did so to affirm the fact that their design was the one that should be adopted by the new state
(Nation).

The Star of David — Many sources claim this symbol did not originate until the Middle Ages, but that is not true. It can be found on the frieze of the 2nd Century synagogue in Capernaum. It also appears as part of the 1st Century symbol of the Messianic Church, which combined the symbols of the menorah, the star of David and the fish."



After reading Cody's convictions (post #95) it just seemed that he is actually more Jewish than a secular Jewish citizen of Israel that doesn't know G-D or an Orthodox Jewish citizen that doesn't know Yeshua HaMashiach as their L-RD.

1 Samuel 16:7
But the LORD said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the LORD sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.”

Romans 2:28-29
28 For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical.
29 But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter. His praise is not from man but from God.

And besides nare we forget Paul's admonition ...

Galatians 3:26-28
26 For in union with the Messiah, you are all children of God through this trusting faithfulness;
27 because as many of you as were immersed into the Messiah have clothed yourselves with the Messiah, in whom
28 there is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor freeman, neither male nor female; for in union with the Messiah Yeshua, you are all one.
Originally the Messianic star was a five point star. Some time along the way it was changed to a six point star.
 
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The Six-Pointed Star is engraved on the Talisman of Saturn which is used in ritual magic.

TALISMAN OF SATURN.
Moloch, Chiun and Remphan are all names for the star god
, Saturn, whose symbol is a six pointed star formed by two triangles.

Amos 5:26
But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.

Acts 7:43
Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.


Originally the Messianic star was a five point star. Some time along the way it was changed to a six point star.


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The term "Star of David" or "Shield of David" with the hexagram shape dates to the 17th century. The earliest Jewish usage of the symbol was inherited from medieval Arabic literature by Kabbalists for use in talismanic protective amulets (segulot) where it was known as a Seal of Solomon.


The Seal of Solomon,also called The Ring of Solomon; it is a signet ring attributed to King Solomon in medieval Jewish tradition, later also in Islamic and Western occultism. It was often depicted in either a pentagram or hexagram shape; the latter also known as Shield of David or Star of David in Jewish tradition.


It is said that the ring gave Solomon the power to command demons, genies or jinni, or to speak with animals. Solomon's signet ring, and its supposed design, came to be seen as an amulet or talisman; a symbol or character in medieval and Renaissance-era magic, occultism, and alchemy.
 
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