Do you step in, or shut-up

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I have an intense amount of study right now. A thing I like to do to loosen my mind is writing.

So I wrote a story about a confrontation my father had while overseas. A man was getting into his wife verbally and abusively with complete disregard for the fact they were on a public bus. She attempted to get away from him on the bus but he kept haranguing her and apparently it was quite intense.

Finally, my Dad stood up and said 'I am not going to be a silent witness to your abuse of your wife.' And stood up to him. The guy stopped his rant. My Dad then spoke to his wife and hoped she could have a good day. She mouthed her thanks.

Now, people critiquing my story had this to say - Your Dad probably made things worse for her. He probably aggravated her situation and potentiated something more hostile when they got away from the public.

That made me wonder. Would you stand-up , or NOT fearing a worse outcome for the abused woman later?
 

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...That made me wonder. Would you stand-up , or NOT fearing a worse outcome for the abused woman later?
I would probably not stand-up, fearing a worse outcome for me.

I have stood up to a bully before in the face of threat. Got knocked down and kicked in the head. I'm not sure I would engage that situation next time, tho I'd like to think I would.
 
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Those critics may or may not have been correct. There is a possibility that he took it out on her when they got home. But it tells the guy that someone else is watching what he does. For some guys that is enough to make them back off.

I would (and have on one occasion) speak up.
 
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I have an intense amount of study right now. A thing I like to do to loosen my mind is writing.

So I wrote a story about a confrontation my father had while overseas. A man was getting into his wife verbally and abusively with complete disregard for the fact they were on a public bus. She attempted to get away from him on the bus but he kept haranguing her and apparently it was quite intense.

Finally, my Dad stood up and said 'I am not going to be a silent witness to your abuse of your wife.' And stood up to him. The guy stopped his rant. My Dad then spoke to his wife and hoped she could have a good day. She mouthed her thanks.

Now, people critiquing my story had this to say - Your Dad probably made things worse for her. He probably aggravated her situation and potentiated something more hostile when they got away from the public.

That made me wonder. Would you stand-up , or NOT fearing a worse outcome for the abused woman later?

My response would probably depend on whether or not I thought he was pack'n heat........as well as the difference I sensed between his and my body-mass index. :rolleyes:

I must say, you're dad is to be commended!
 
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I don't usually know what will have been the right thing later on.

But I do usually know the right thing at the moment.

Watched too much Lone Ranger as a child.

I'd have spoken up.
 
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I would probably not stand-up, fearing a worse outcome for me.

I have stood up to a bully before in the face of threat. Got knocked down and kicked in the head. I'm not sure I would engage that situation next time, tho I'd like to think I would.

When I was kid, how I dealt with a bully is ambushed him with a big rock when he's completely preoccupied with something else.

Pretty much broke him and never bullied anyone again. He survived my attack so it's a happy ending for everyone.

I often tell this story, in case anyone has a kid who is a bully. Their life might be in danger if they come across a kid who's just like me. I'm quite devious even at a very young age. I plotted in silence.
 
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Well, You probably don't want my opinion because I am one of those 2nd amendment believing patriotic type's, ;)
but if I see a guy mistreating a woman or anyone else that is weaker than them physically, Then I will step in to separate and protect the weaker one.
I can't stand bullies and people who think they have the right to lay hands on someone in a hurtful or harmful way.
 
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That made me wonder. Would you stand-up , or NOT fearing a worse outcome for the abused woman later?

Tough one - it usually takes a lot for me to intervene in someone else's business. I applaud your Dad though. Critics are right, it might cause a worse situation later, but it also might not. Who knows? Basically what your Dad said was "not on my watch!"
 
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When I was kid, how I dealt with a bully is ambushed him with a big rock when he's completely preoccupied with something else.

I had a bully too, but I was a little more subtle. I got into his gym locker and filled his clothes full of itching powder. Kind of felt sorry for him afterwards. He wasn't that persistent or violent with me though. Punched or threw things at me every now and then, wasn't Big Rock worthy.
 
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When I was kid, how I dealt with a bully is ambushed him with a big rock when he's completely preoccupied with something else.

Pretty much broke him and never bullied anyone again. He survived my attack so it's a happy ending for everyone.

I often tell this story, in case anyone has a kid who is a bully. Their life might be in danger if they come across a kid who's just like me. I'm quite devious even at a very young age. I plotted in silence.
Well he got lucky and so did you that you didnt break his skull. Cant blame you tho. Bullies have got it coming, so to speak.
 
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Would you stand-up , or NOT fearing a worse outcome for the abused woman later?

I'm not big enough to stand up to most guys physically - but it is very likely I would start a conversation with this guy and try to help him see the error in his ways.
 
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I have an intense amount of study right now. A thing I like to do to loosen my mind is writing.

So I wrote a story about a confrontation my father had while overseas. A man was getting into his wife verbally and abusively with complete disregard for the fact they were on a public bus. She attempted to get away from him on the bus but he kept haranguing her and apparently it was quite intense.

Finally, my Dad stood up and said 'I am not going to be a silent witness to your abuse of your wife.' And stood up to him. The guy stopped his rant. My Dad then spoke to his wife and hoped she could have a good day. She mouthed her thanks.

Now, people critiquing my story had this to say - Your Dad probably made things worse for her. He probably aggravated her situation and potentiated something more hostile when they got away from the public.

That made me wonder. Would you stand-up , or NOT fearing a worse outcome for the abused woman later?

I would be more afraid for myself. A guy one night leaving a bar found a man severely beating his girlfriend in the parking lot. He physically stopped the guy and someone else called the police. When the police got there she blamed him for beating her and claimed the boyfriend was stopping him.
 
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I have an intense amount of study right now. A thing I like to do to loosen my mind is writing.

So I wrote a story about a confrontation my father had while overseas. A man was getting into his wife verbally and abusively with complete disregard for the fact they were on a public bus. She attempted to get away from him on the bus but he kept haranguing her and apparently it was quite intense.

Finally, my Dad stood up and said 'I am not going to be a silent witness to your abuse of your wife.' And stood up to him. The guy stopped his rant. My Dad then spoke to his wife and hoped she could have a good day. She mouthed her thanks.

Now, people critiquing my story had this to say - Your Dad probably made things worse for her. He probably aggravated her situation and potentiated something more hostile when they got away from the public.

That made me wonder. Would you stand-up , or NOT fearing a worse outcome for the abused woman later?
I ride the bus, and one time this guy who I think was with this disabled chick (woman) with a walker, and I could tell they were probably previously fighting and probably not getting along, but somehow I could tell it was not much due to her, and that maybe she put up with this kind of abuse (I would call it) from this, I thought, very immature man...

She had tears in her eyes and he was sitting across from here purposely in, I think, a very pouting and upset way, and it made me mad, just the way he was with her, they were not getting unruly on the bus, but I could just tell that the guy, or the man, or the boy, was a very immature one... I bit my tongue, and was I glad when I reached my stop and could get off the bus, cause it was getting to me, and pretty badly at that, it was making me very, very angry... I think she was on disability, and he was an abusive user who was taking advantage of her (or at least that's what I was thinking, but don't know for sure)... I don't think he had a job or was supporting her or anything, I think it was the other way around...

But, some women do "pick wrong" a lot, and on purpose sometimes, and sometimes their is nothing you can do and you can actually make matters worse for them, or the female, in this case... They tend to like a lot of "passion", a lot of emotion, but I would say that passion/emotions/feelings would come at too high a price for me, but, whatever...

I leave it alone usually, if those women want help, they are going to have to help themselves by getting out of the situation or by stopping picking those kinds of men (boys)...

Unfortunately a lot of women like and prefer "boy-toys" over real men...

God Bless!
 
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I ride the bus, and one time this guy who I think was with this disabled chick (woman) with a walker, and I could tell they were probably previously fighting and probably not getting along, but somehow I could tell it was not much due to her, and that maybe she put up with this kind of abuse (I would call it) from this, I thought, very immature man...

She had tears in her eyes and he was sitting across from here purposely in, I think, a very pouting and upset way, and it made me mad, just the way he was with her, they were not getting unruly on the bus, but I could just tell that the guy, or the man, or the boy, was a very immature one... I bit my tongue, and was I glad when I reached my stop and could get off the bus, cause it was getting to me, and pretty badly at that, it was making me very, very angry... I think she was on disability, and he was an abusive user who was taking advantage of her (or at least that's what I was thinking, but don't know for sure)... I don't think he had a job or was supporting her or anything, I think it was the other way around...

But, some women do "pick wrong" a lot, and on purpose sometimes, and sometimes their is nothing you can do and you can actually make matters worse for them, or the female, in this case... They tend to like a lot of "passion", a lot of emotion, but I would say that passion/emotions/feelings would come at too high a price for me, but, whatever...

I leave it alone usually, if those women want help, they are going to have to help themselves by getting out of the situation or by stopping picking those kinds of men (boys)...

Unfortunately a lot of women like and prefer "boy-toys" over real men...

God Bless!

I see it all the time, couples in desperate situations fighting together or with each other on the streets where I live, sometimes you just have to keep walking and walk past and walk on (by), unfortunately, even though it's hard to sometimes...

God Bless!
 
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I have an intense amount of study right now. A thing I like to do to loosen my mind is writing.

So I wrote a story about a confrontation my father had while overseas. A man was getting into his wife verbally and abusively with complete disregard for the fact they were on a public bus. She attempted to get away from him on the bus but he kept haranguing her and apparently it was quite intense.

Finally, my Dad stood up and said 'I am not going to be a silent witness to your abuse of your wife.' And stood up to him. The guy stopped his rant. My Dad then spoke to his wife and hoped she could have a good day. She mouthed her thanks.

Now, people critiquing my story had this to say - Your Dad probably made things worse for her. He probably aggravated her situation and potentiated something more hostile when they got away from the public.

That made me wonder. Would you stand-up , or NOT fearing a worse outcome for the abused woman later?

I'm not afraid to call the police if I see abuse going on and have called the police
/and or reported it to store security if it be going on at the mall.
Also reported abuse going on in my community.
I've witnessed/ heard verbal abuse going on on a public bus and the driver
reports it and security and or the police be waiting for the bus at another stop
and the unruly people on the bus were removed and the last I saw they were been talked to by security /and or police.
 
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I have an intense amount of study right now. A thing I like to do to loosen my mind is writing.

So I wrote a story about a confrontation my father had while overseas. A man was getting into his wife verbally and abusively with complete disregard for the fact they were on a public bus. She attempted to get away from him on the bus but he kept haranguing her and apparently it was quite intense.

Finally, my Dad stood up and said 'I am not going to be a silent witness to your abuse of your wife.' And stood up to him. The guy stopped his rant. My Dad then spoke to his wife and hoped she could have a good day. She mouthed her thanks.

Now, people critiquing my story had this to say - Your Dad probably made things worse for her. He probably aggravated her situation and potentiated something more hostile when they got away from the public.

That made me wonder. Would you stand-up , or NOT fearing a worse outcome for the abused woman later?

My guess is the people guessing it would be worse for her later are wrong, because as told, she didn't solicit this intervention. Assuming she did nothing to solicit the intervention, my guess is that the intervention is likelier to lead to the abusive man calming down and reflecting some.
 
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I have an intense amount of study right now. A thing I like to do to loosen my mind is writing.

So I wrote a story about a confrontation my father had while overseas. A man was getting into his wife verbally and abusively with complete disregard for the fact they were on a public bus. She attempted to get away from him on the bus but he kept haranguing her and apparently it was quite intense.

Finally, my Dad stood up and said 'I am not going to be a silent witness to your abuse of your wife.' And stood up to him. The guy stopped his rant. My Dad then spoke to his wife and hoped she could have a good day. She mouthed her thanks.

Now, people critiquing my story had this to say - Your Dad probably made things worse for her. He probably aggravated her situation and potentiated something more hostile when they got away from the public.

That made me wonder. Would you stand-up , or NOT fearing a worse outcome for the abused woman later?

Well ... your dad evidentially did the right thing in the women's eyes because she thanked him. In this story, not only was the woman being offended, your dad was offended as well.

Proverbs 22

Contemporary English Version
10 Arguments and fights will come to an end, if you chase away those who insult others.

God Bless.
 
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I have an intense amount of study right now. A thing I like to do to loosen my mind is writing.

So I wrote a story about a confrontation my father had while overseas. A man was getting into his wife verbally and abusively with complete disregard for the fact they were on a public bus. She attempted to get away from him on the bus but he kept haranguing her and apparently it was quite intense.

Finally, my Dad stood up and said 'I am not going to be a silent witness to your abuse of your wife.' And stood up to him. The guy stopped his rant. My Dad then spoke to his wife and hoped she could have a good day. She mouthed her thanks.

Now, people critiquing my story had this to say - Your Dad probably made things worse for her. He probably aggravated her situation and potentiated something more hostile when they got away from the public.

That made me wonder. Would you stand-up , or NOT fearing a worse outcome for the abused woman later?
I would consult the Spirit and ask what the best course of action would be. It is never wise to enter situations based solely off of emotion.
 
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I have an intense amount of study right now. A thing I like to do to loosen my mind is writing.

So I wrote a story about a confrontation my father had while overseas. A man was getting into his wife verbally and abusively with complete disregard for the fact they were on a public bus. She attempted to get away from him on the bus but he kept haranguing her and apparently it was quite intense.

Finally, my Dad stood up and said 'I am not going to be a silent witness to your abuse of your wife.' And stood up to him. The guy stopped his rant. My Dad then spoke to his wife and hoped she could have a good day. She mouthed her thanks.

Now, people critiquing my story had this to say - Your Dad probably made things worse for her. He probably aggravated her situation and potentiated something more hostile when they got away from the public.

That made me wonder. Would you stand-up , or NOT fearing a worse outcome for the abused woman later?

I think it’s instinctive - I once stepped in when a few guys were bothering a woman on the metro, years ago, and they stopped - tbh I think they were just surprised more than anything. On another occasion a woman walking past me thumped her daughter really hard in the shoulder and I just stared in shock as they continued walking, and didn’t say anything. I think it’s hard to predict how you’ll respond to situations like that. Overall I do think it’s better to shame an abuser - it may have some affect on their thinking over time, and if it doesn’t then that is hardly the fault of the person who intervened.
 
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