Ezekiel's Temple vision does NOT HAVE future fulfillment.

Why couldn't Ezekiel, the priest, make such actions in his day, being typical of the actions that will be taken in the future Millennial Temple?

The Boxer said:

Dispensationalists all argue that Ezekiel's temple vision will be fulfilled in the supposed future millennial kingdom. But the abundance of internal evidence in the book strongly militates against this. For example, the book explicitly states that Ezekiel himself would offer a sacrifice in the temple. This puts the fulfillment of Ezekiel's visions in Ezekiel's generation.

43:18-20,
And He said to me, “Son of man, thus says the Lord God: ‘These are the ordinances for the altar on the day when it is made, for sacrificing burnt offerings on it, and for sprinkling blood on it. 19 You shall give a young bull for a sin offering to the priests, the Levites, who are of the seed of Zadok, who approach Me to minister to Me,’ says the Lord God. 20 ‘You shall take some of its blood and put it on the four horns of the altar, on the four corners of the ledge, and on the rim around it; thus you shall cleanse it and make atonement for it.

Please note that God spoke to Ezekiel and said that "you" are to provide a bull and "you" are to apply its blood on the altar and "you" shall cleanse it and make atonement. Now a poster here told me last month that the "you" here is generic. But if the "you" is generic, then we would expect it to be plural. But it is not plural. According to the Analytical Key to the Old Testament the "you" is singular in each instance.
This means that Ezekiel's himself was to offer the bull and that the vision would have its fulfillment in Ezekiel's own time.

This also argues against Dispensationalism's theory that the sacrifices are for a "memorial." It CLEARLY says that Ezekiel was to "make atonement." Moreover, God said that Ezekiel would be accepted as a consequence.

verse 27,
"and I will accept you, says the Lord God."

Ezekiel wouldn't need to offer a bull for acceptance in the millennium for he would have been resurrected sinless.

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if you read the entire passage and start listing what is accomplished and when you run into a contradiction. The 1st portion Ezekiel has the vision being caught up into heaven. He sees the glory of the LORD. And God proclaims this about Israel And He said to me, “Son of man, this is the place of My throne and the place of the soles of My feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel forever. No more shall the house of Israel defile My holy name, they nor their kings, by their harlotry or with the carcasses of their kings on their high places.

This did not happen in Ezekiel's day and has not happened since as in Jesus day they still defiled the temple. The LORD was bringing Nebuchadnezar to destroy Judah and Jerusalem and the offer of if they repent they were to do these sacrifices you quoted at the end of the passage. The people as Jeremiah at the same time records that they did not repent or turn to the LORD. This passage records the missed opportunity they had to avert destruction and captivity. So the record of the design of the temple and the promise God made that a time will come when Israel will no longer defile the name of the LORD. I can show you many more that show the deliverance and conversion of Israel.

The Boxer said:

Ezekiel's temple vision will be fulfilled in the supposed future millennial kingdom.

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Ezekiel's temple will be in the new heavens and new earth exactly as described. Ditto for all of Ezekiel chapters 40 to 48.

"As for you, son of man, describe the temple to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities; and let them measure the plan.

"If they are ashamed of all that they have done, make known to them the design of the house, its structure, its exits, its entrances, all its designs, all its statutes, and all its laws. And write it in their sight, so that they may observe its whole design and all its statutes and do them.

(Ezekiel 43:10,11)

How did Ezekiel show us this Temple, its structure and its statutes?

We have the Bible, gentlemen. We have the Bible and there is the Holy Spirit.

If most Christians do not understand this Temple, then they probably need to turn to God.

If they are ashamed of all that they have done...

Or Christians do not consider themselves to be part of Israel?

The Boxer said:

Dispensationalists all argue that Ezekiel's temple vision will be fulfilled in the supposed future millennial kingdom. But the abundance of internal evidence in the book strongly militates against this. For example, the book explicitly states that Ezekiel himself would offer a sacrifice in the temple. This puts the fulfillment of Ezekiel's visions in Ezekiel's generation.

43:18-20,
And He said to me, “Son of man, thus says the Lord God: ‘These are the ordinances for the altar on the day when it is made, for sacrificing burnt offerings on it, and for sprinkling blood on it. 19 You shall give a young bull for a sin offering to the priests, the Levites, who are of the seed of Zadok, who approach Me to minister to Me,’ says the Lord God. 20 ‘You shall take some of its blood and put it on the four horns of the altar, on the four corners of the ledge, and on the rim around it; thus you shall cleanse it and make atonement for it.

Please note that God spoke to Ezekiel and said that "you" are to provide a bull and "you" are to apply its blood on the altar and "you" shall cleanse it and make atonement. Now a poster here told me last month that the "you" here is generic. But if the "you" is generic, then we would expect it to be plural. But it is not plural. According to the Analytical Key to the Old Testament the "you" is singular in each instance.
This means that Ezekiel's himself was to offer the bull and that the vision would have its fulfillment in Ezekiel's own time.

This also argues against Dispensationalism's theory that the sacrifices are for a "memorial." It CLEARLY says that Ezekiel was to "make atonement." Moreover, God said that Ezekiel would be accepted as a consequence.

verse 27,
"and I will accept you, says the Lord God."

Ezekiel wouldn't need to offer a bull for acceptance in the millennium for he would have been resurrected sinless.

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Israel will ALWAYS be under the law. The New Covenant, which puts the law in their heart, by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, will enable them to keep the law. That's it's primary purpose. As of now, no one has ever been under the New Covenant. It's all future. The gifts in Acts 2 were but a small sample of this indwelling as prophesied by Joel. The New Covenant will never be applied to Gentiles because they will never have to keep the law. The New Covenant will only be for Israel, Heb 8:8, Jer 31:31.

Where does it say that Ezekiel will be resurrected sinless? If that's so, why will Israel still be sacrificing in the millennium?

There will be no animal sacrifices ever again that God will require for sin offerings. The OC passed away, is done away with, expired. Everything is NT now, the OT books simply foreshadowed what was to replace it.

Jesus said the NEW COVENANT is now enforced for all people, jew and gentile. PAUL also in Ephesians said the dividing wall of hostility is broken down in this NC to create one new man in Christ, no longer jew or gentile.

Matthew 26:28
For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Mark 14:24
And He said to them, “This is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many.
Luke 22:20
Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you.
John 6:54
Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:55
For My flesh is food indeed, and My blood is drink indeed.
John 6:56
He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him.
1 Corinthians 11:25
In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”

None of the NT authors ever wrote about Ezekiel's vision. It must not have had any relevance then anymore.

ac28 said:

Israel will ALWAYS be under the law. The New Covenant, which puts the law in their heart, by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, will enable them to keep the law. That's it's primary purpose. As of now, no one has ever been under the New Covenant. It's all future. The gifts in Acts 2 were but a small sample of this indwelling as prophesied by Joel. The New Covenant will never be applied to Gentiles because they will never have to keep the law. The New Covenant will only be for Israel, Heb 8:8, Jer 31:31.

Where does it say that Ezekiel will be resurrected sinless? If that's so, why will Israel still be sacrificing in the millennium?

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Both jew and gentile are made one in this New Covenant. If you are in Christ you are therefore part of this NC.

Ephesians 2
Brought Near by His Blood
11 Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh—who are called Uncircumcision by what is called the Circumcision made in the flesh by hands— 12 that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ.

Christ Our Peace
14 For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, 15 having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, 16 and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity. 17 And He came and preached peace to you who were afar off and to those who were near. 18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.

sdowney717 said:

There will be no animal sacrifices ever again that God will require for sin offerings. The OC passed away, is done away with, expired. Everything is NT now, the OT books simply foreshadowed what was to replace it.

Jesus said the NEW COVENANT is now enforced for all people, jew and gentile. PAUL also in Ephesians said the dividing wall of hostility is broken down in this NC to create one new man in Christ, no longer jew or gentile.

Matthew 26:28
For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Mark 14:24
And He said to them, “This is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many.
Luke 22:20
Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you.
John 6:54
Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:55
For My flesh is food indeed, and My blood is drink indeed.
John 6:56
He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him.
1 Corinthians 11:25
In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”

None of the NT authors ever wrote about Ezekiel's vision. It must not have had any relevance then anymore.

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Everything prophesied by an inspired Prophet of God will come to pass. Otherwise, Ezekiel would be a false prophet and that certainly isn't true. You've taken very iffy, unrelated verses and tried to make a mountain of of a molehill.

The purpose of the New Covenant is to enable Israel to KEEP the Law, not eliminate it. According to Eze 43:18 thru 46:24, there will absolutely be animal sacrifices by Israel during the Millennium. None of the verses you quoted have anything to do with whether or not there there will be animal sacrifices in the millennium. Christ Cut a New Covenant with ISRAEL on the cross. It has absolutely nothing to do with Gentiles. See Jer 31:31 and Heb 8:8. It says in Rom 9:4, written about 28 years after Christ died that the Covenants belong to Israel. Nowhere does it say plainly that the New Covenant pertains to Gentiles. Also, there is no verse anywhere that says there will not be animal sacrifices in the Millennium.
Will there be animal sacrifices during the millennial kingdom?

ac28 said:

Everything prophesied by an inspired Prophet of God will come to pass. Otherwise, Ezekiel would be a false prophet and that certainly isn't true. You've taken very iffy, unrelated verses and tried to make a mountain of of a molehill.

The purpose of the New Covenant is to enable Israel to KEEP the Law, not eliminate it. According to Eze 43:18 thru 46:24, there will absolutely be animal sacrifices by Israel during the Millennium. None of the verses you quoted have anything to do with whether or not there there will be animal sacrifices in the millennium. Christ Cut a New Covenant with ISRAEL on the cross. It has absolutely nothing to do with Gentiles. See Jer 31:31 and Heb 8:8. It says in Rom 9:4, written about 28 years after Christ died that the Covenants belong to Israel. Nowhere does it say plainly that the New Covenant pertains to Gentiles. Also, there is no verse anywhere that says there will not be animal sacrifices in the Millennium.
Will there be animal sacrifices during the millennial kingdom?

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' Nowhere does it say plainly that the New Covenant pertains to Gentiles.'

Absolutely it says this, I already posted what Christ said about His new covenant in His blood.
Your heretical view, I am surprised no one else bothers to mention is anti-christ.

sdowney717 said:

' Nowhere does it say plainly that the New Covenant pertains to Gentiles.'

Absolutely it says this, I already posted what Christ said about His new covenant in His blood.
Your heretical view, I am surprised no one else bothers to mention is anti-christ.

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Nothing I have ever said was anti-Christ. Your obvious attempt to adjust scripture, so it says something that it really doesn't say, knows no bounds. Except for Christ's death, burial, and resurrection, nothing pertaining directly to us Gentiles, concerning our hope, calling, and rules for us, can be found in the Gospels. I love Christ's words as much as anyone, but I know that they, in the most part, are directed only to Israel. I love those words because they tell me ABOUT Christ, not because I think I should obey the rules He's giving ONLY to Israelites, Mt 15:24.

I repeat. Not one quote you made had anything to do with Gentiles having the New Covenant. Christ was a minister of the circumcision (Israel) Jn 1:31, Rom 15:8. Like Christ said, He was only sent to the lost sheep of the House of Israel - Mt 15:24. Except for His death, burial, and resurrection, nothing He said pertains to us Gentiles, directly, concerning OUR hope, calling, rules, and directions. When we need to know these things, we turn to Paul only, THE only apostle to the Gentiles. If there's a conflict between Christ's words and Paul's words, we turn to Paul. Don't be blinded by the red letters. Most everything in them doesn't apply directly to you. Had God desired Jesus Christ to be a minister to the Gentiles, Christ would have been more than capable of doing that. However, His 3-1/2 year ministry WAS NOT to the Gentiles. It was 100% to Israel, to show that HE was ISRAEL'S promised Messiah. In several verses, including 1Tim 2:7, we learn that Paul is the Gentile's apostle, minister, teacher, and preacher. Listen to him. Follow Paul - 1Cor 11:1.

According to Eph 2:15, Col 2:14, 20, we are no longer subject to ordinances, which include the Lord's supper and water baptism. Actually, both belonged to Israel. Gentiles during Acts obeyed them only because those Gentiles were grafted in to Israel and were, therefore, part of Israel.

There is no smoking gun verse in the Bible that says that the New Covenant pertains to Gentiles. If there is, prove it. With real proof, not those sideways verses you posted, which proved absolutely nothing. Actually, no one has ever received the New Covenant, as of today. It was solely to put Israel's LAW in Israel's inward parts, so they would be able to keep the law, which they had never been able to do under the old covenant. The gifts of the Spirit given to those 120 Jews in Acts 2, was a taste of what the New Covenant will be like. When the New Covenant is given to Israel, that's what it will be like. Obviously, the New Covenant has never been enacted, no matter what the mainstream demoninational preachers, those full-time thieves of Israel's blessings, say.

ac28 said:

Nothing I have ever said was anti-Christ. Your obvious attempt to adjust scripture, so it says something that it really doesn't say, knows no bounds. Except for Christ's death, burial, and resurrection, nothing pertaining directly to us Gentiles, concerning our hope, calling, and rules for us, can be found in the Gospels. I love Christ's words as much as anyone, but I know that they, in the most part, are directed only to Israel. I love those words because they tell me ABOUT Christ, not because I think I should obey the rules He's giving ONLY to Israelites, Mt 15:24.

I repeat. Not one quote you made had anything to do with Gentiles having the New Covenant. Christ was a minister of the circumcision (Israel) Jn 1:31, Rom 15:8. Like Christ said, He was only sent to the lost sheep of the House of Israel - Mt 15:24. Except for His death, burial, and resurrection, nothing He said pertains to us Gentiles, directly, concerning OUR hope, calling, rules, and directions. When we need to know these things, we turn to Paul only, THE only apostle to the Gentiles. If there's a conflict between Christ's words and Paul's words, we turn to Paul. Don't be blinded by the red letters. Most everything in them doesn't apply directly to you. Had God desired Jesus Christ to be a minister to the Gentiles, Christ would have been more than capable of doing that. However, His 3-1/2 year ministry WAS NOT to the Gentiles. It was 100% to Israel, to show that HE was ISRAEL'S promised Messiah. In several verses, including 1Tim 2:7, we learn that Paul is the Gentile's apostle, minister, teacher, and preacher. Listen to him. Follow Paul - 1Cor 11:1.

According to Eph 2:15, Col 2:14, 20, we are no longer subject to ordinances, which include the Lord's supper and water baptism. Actually, both belonged to Israel. Gentiles during Acts obeyed them only because those Gentiles were grafted in to Israel and were, therefore, part of Israel.

There is no smoking gun verse in the Bible that says that the New Covenant pertains to Gentiles. If there is, prove it. With real proof, not those sideways verses you posted, which proved absolutely nothing. Actually, no one has ever received the New Covenant, as of today. It was solely to put Israel's LAW in Israel's inward parts, so they would be able to keep the law, which they had never been able to do under the old covenant. The gifts of the Spirit given to those 120 Jews in Acts 2, was a taste of what the New Covenant will be like. When the New Covenant is given to Israel, that's what it will be like. Obviously, the New Covenant has never been enacted, no matter what the mainstream demoninational preachers, those full-time thieves of Israel's blessings, say.

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Your heresy of no gentiles being a part of the New Covenant is a new one to me. One I never could have imagined hearing. The blood of the New Covenant of Christ of whom HE is the mediator, is what justifies gentiles having faith in His blood to save them.

Romans was written to the gentile believers, who were included in the NC by faith in His blood sprinkled on them for the forgiveness of their sins.

Romans 3
God’s Righteousness Through Faith
21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, 26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

Boasting Excluded
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law. 29 Or is He the God of the Jews only? Is He not also the God of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also, 30 since there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. 31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.

You know the entire New Testament is all about the NEW Covenant, and most obviously gentile believers were included in that. Jesus is the mediator of the NEW Covenant.

Hebrews 12
22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, 23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.

sdowney717 said:

Your heresy of no gentiles being a part of the New Covenant is a new one to me. One I never could have imagined hearing. The blood of the New Covenant of Christ of whom HE is the mediator, is what justifies gentiles having faith in His blood to save them.

Romans was written to the gentile believers, who were included in the NC by faith in His blood sprinkled on them for the forgiveness of their sins.

Romans 3
God’s Righteousness Through Faith
21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, 26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

Boasting Excluded
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law. 29 Or is He the God of the Jews only? Is He not also the God of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also, 30 since there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. 31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.

You know the entire New Testament is all about the NEW Covenant, and most obviously gentile believers were included in that. Jesus is the mediator of the NEW Covenant.

Hebrews 12
22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, 23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.

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Due to your lack understanding of what the misnamed New Testament is all about, this list of false doctrine in the churches today should really set you off. If you would rightly divide = correctly cut God's Word, you would finally understand the so-called New Testament and, also, you would be acceptable unto God and will not have a need to feel ashamed, according to 2Tim 2:15. Of course, that means that, if you don't rightly divide, you're NOT acceptable unto God and, as in the same verse, you will feel ashamed.

40 Common False Beliefs Taught in Demoninational Churches - Every one is UNTRUE. About half of these were weeded out using right division.

1- Man HAS a Soul.
2- The Soul is immortal
3- Hell, as Christendom defines it, is a real place where God tortures those who do not believe in Him, in fire, 24/7, forever, even though Christ died for every sin ever committed, past, present, and future..
4- All dead believers are now in heaven with God. They immediately went to heaven after death. They didn't need to wait for the resurrection.
5- The Church has replaced Israel
6- People must do works to earn their salvation. Simply believing in Jesus Christ is not enough.
7-Jesus Christ could return any day
8- Oral traditions are acceptable to God as true doctrine
9- The entire Bible is written directly TO us, for us to obey
10- The Gospel taught by Jesus Christ takes precedent over everything else.
11- The Great Commission is the marching order for the Church today
12- To be saved, we must be born again
13- It's OK to have religious idols, to call the chief muckymuck "Father", to pray to human saints, to tell people you can forgive their sins, to pray in vain repetitions, to have a priesthood, to force celibacy, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.,
14- The present day Church started with Christ's earthly ministry
15- The present day Church started at Pentecost, in Acts 2
16- True Israel is the Church
17- Lazarus and the Rich Man is a true story.
18- The comma in Lk 23:43 should be before the word, Today, as it appears in most Bibles, and not after.
19- In Lk 23, the thief and Christ met on the day of their deaths, in Paradise, which is in the 3rd Heaven according to 2Cor 12.
20- Christ's earthly ministry was to both Jews and Gentiles
21- Israel are still God's chosen people, during this 2000 year period we're now in.
22- The 10 commandments are written for us to obey.
23- Mary, the mother of the man, Jesus, died a virgin.
24- The New Covenant is in effect for the Church today
25- Repentance means to stop sinning
26- Biblical prophecy is being fulfilled today
27- Paul should have been the 12th apostle, as the replacement for Judas
28- Present day Israel was God ordained. It was the fulfilling of prophecy
29- The Sermon on the Mount applies to us today.
30- The Lord's Prayer applies to us today.
31- The Lord's Supper applies to us today
32- Water Baptism applies to us today.
33- The Gifts of the Spirit,as given in Acts 2, are still applicable today.
34- The 12 apostles witnessed daily to both Jews and Gentiles
35- There are prophets in the Church today
36- The present day Gentile Church, The Church Which is His Body, where Christ is the Head, will go through the Tribulation.
37- The purpose of the Acts period was to build the Church
38- Today's Gentile Church will be taken up in the rapture.
39- Christ came to build a Church.
40- You can understand scripture without rightly dividing it. see 2Tim 2:15

I think the confusion is over what the Messianic Kingdom on the earth actually is. Not only will there be sacrifices at the Millennial temple that Ezekiel described, but also those nations that do not come to Jerusalem on the feast of Tabernacles will have rain withheld from their land.

There will be mortal people populating the kingdom. They will be from those that survived the GT period and go into the kingdom. There will be death in the Millennial Kingdom. Messiah will rule with a rod of iron, which implies there are people who will get out of line and need to be dealt with. The sacrifices are most likely to emphasize the depth of what is the required penalty for sin. It will be more of a lesson than actual sacrifice for sin. But then, that has been the case all along. The sacrifices of old were to point to the Messiah. The future sacrifices will again point to Messiah.

And the kingdom parables given by Yeshua does not paint a rosy picture either. They show a kingdom being tainted by sin more and more as it goes along. And there must be some real discontent with Messiah ruling over them to have a big chunk of the nations during that time gather together when Satan is released and rebel against Messiah one last time. Psalm 2 shows that along with Revelation 20.

The "you" in the address to Ezekiel was the generic "you." That is, "you people," not "you," as an individual.

The boundaries of holy oblation (Ezekiel 48:9,10,13,15,18,20). The area of the land plot of Levi. The borders of Israel (Ezekiel 47:15-20). Land plots of the tribes of Israel (Ezekiel 48:1-7,23-27). Land for the President (Ezekiel 48:21,22). Joseph's striped robe (Genesis 37:3). Double plot of land for Joseph (Ezekiel 47:13,14). The "face" of the Messiah. The land of Moriah. Details of the route of Abraham (Genesis 22:4,5). The place where Abraham’s knife may lie. 500 reeds around the Temple (Ezekiel 43:16-20). Where is the right side of the House and where is the left side of the House. The watershed of the basins of two streams - Nahal Arugot and Nahal Hever. Details of the flow of water (Ezekiel 47:1,2,8-10).

Biblewriter said:

The "you" in the address to Ezekiel was the generic "you." That is, "you people," not "you," as an individual.

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I am not suggesting that everyone read King James but I'll use the translation to make a point. The "you" in those verses (43:18-20 are individual because it uses "thou." If it were generic, it would have used Ye or You.

Lady Bug said:

I am not suggesting that everyone read King James but I'll use the translation to make a point. The "you" in those verses (43:18-20 are individual because it uses "thou." If it were generic, it would have used Ye or You.

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If you actually examine the specific Hebrew words used in the text here, this claim will not hold up.

Acts 7:48, 1 Corinthians 3:16, Acts 17:24, Luke 17:21, the OT fore shadowed the kingdom temple made without hands, which is the Conscience, thoughts are the sacrifices, as a man thinks so is he bound by is thoughts to serve or enslave him, Hebrews 9:9, Psalms 40:6, no literal animal sacrifice was ever needed by the Spirit nor was Remembering sins Luke 15:21-22, only the god of the flesh keeps records of falling short of the mark.
Ezekiel being a typology of Christ in us the Temple made without hands, that seem to be realistic historic narratives but, taken literally they are dead letters, dark sayings, riddles Proverbs 1:6, Psalms 78:2, are parabolic, allegorical symbolism, shadows Colossians 2: 16:17, Galatians 4:24-25, believing these literally after tasting the Spiritual kingdom 2 Corinthians 5:16, is like literally believing bedtime stories, it's milk doctrine served by tradition to scare children into staying babes in bondage to Caesar's world Galatians 4:1, Hebrews 6:1-5.

Copperhead said:

There will be mortal people populating the kingdom. They will be from those that survived the GT period and go into the kingdom. There will be death in the Millennial Kingdom. Messiah will rule with a rod of iron, which implies there are people who will get out of line and need to be dealt with. The sacrifices are most likely to emphasize the depth of what is the required penalty for sin. It will be more of a lesson than actual sacrifice for sin. But then, that has been the case all along. The sacrifices of old were to point to the Messiah. The future sacrifices will again point to Messiah.

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The Dispensationalists claims that renewed animal sacrifices will be needed in the future as a "memorial" or as a "lesson" are a work of fiction, not found in scripture.


Heb_10:6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

Heb 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
(From the promise of the New Covenant in Jeremiah 31:31-34.)
Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.



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