The Left Won’t Stop At Alex Jones. The Slippery Slope Is Real, And We’re On It

yes all leftists think that all christians are Nazis.

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SimplyMe said:

I'd love to see this supported -- particularly since no one seems to see this but you.

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The wording is certainly an exaggeration but there is a point in it.

One needs only to notice how often an attack made here on CF against any variety of conservative Christian is worded by the critic as being what the "religious right" is like. The critics deliberately cast those people as political activists and political extremists for being traditional Christians.

Serbian_W0lf said:

yes all leftists think that all christians are nazis.

the left in us is the same as in middle east and africa, they are working togeheter.

i dont want to be part of the left, i am a liberal.

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I'm on the left. A social democrat to be precise. I don't think "all christans are nazis". Your point disproven, you should retract it.

Albion said:

The wording is certainly an exaggeration but there is a point in it.

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It's hardly an exaggeration. It's just flat out false.

Albion said:

The wording is certainly an exaggeration but there is a point in it.

One needs only to notice how often an attack made here on CF against any variety of conservative Christian is worded by the critic as being what the "religious right" is like. The critics deliberately cast those people as political activists and political extremists for being traditional Christians.

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Not just "any" variety of conservative Christians; we understand that the situation is more nuanced than that. My impression is that you, for example, are a conservative Christian; that is, a Christian who is a conservative. That does not mean that you are necessarily part of what we think of as the Christian Right, who are indeed distinguished by political activism and extremism. Perhaps a more accurate and descriptive term is Christian Nationalist, an Evangelical Protestant who believes that the US is, or should be, a Christian nation. You need not answer, but think about where you stand with regard to Focus on Family, the Family Research Council, the Faith and Family Coalition or the Alliance Defending Freedom.

Speedwell said:

Not just "any" variety of conservative Christians; we understand that the situation is more nuanced than that. .

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"We?" Perhaps you do. I couldn't say.

My point, as stated, is correct however.

Albion said:

"We?" Perhaps you do. I couldn't say.

My point, as stated, is correct however.

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I can't say that I don't know what you mean. I take some of that heat, too, as a (relatively theologically conservative*) Christian even though I am a social liberal.

*I expect you are aware that there are more ways to be theologically conservative than just believing that the world was created in 4004 BC.

Speedwell said:

I don't understand your distinction between "left" and "liberal." I am a Christian and a Democratic Socialist (like Bernie). Am I "left" or "liberal?"

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left.

majj27 said:

Been there. Done that. Not kicked out.



Well, I found an MTGOW video talking about how them totes evul wimmins are to blame for the French Revolution, but that's an MTGOW bro, so I'm going to file that under "nonsense". So please, show me females celebrating the deaths of Christians during the French Revolution. I'll wait.



And this is shocking because...?



Again, please list some. I want to see what you believe they are.



What does an empire that dissolved in 1922 have to do with, well, anything going on in this thread?

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you are lucky. most christians in the left gets kicked out.

i already told you, go to a random french revolutation video on youtube and read the comments.

its not shocking.

the left are socialists, feminists, pro gay rights, communists. most of them have pink hair and weird clothes.

i brought it up to prove that the left is anti-christians, they never talk about other religions violent past...

majj27 said:

I am a leftist. I do not think all Christians are nazis.

You have been proven wrong.

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non-christian leftists view christians as nazis.

Serbian_W0lf said:

non-christian leftists view christians as nazis.

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Except for the Christian leftists, of course.

Did you know that the Pledge of Allegiance was written by a Christian leftist?

SimplyMe said:

I'd love to see this supported -- particularly since no one seems to see this but you.



Again, you keep making these types of claims but have yet to support it. Again, it goes against what the rest of us have seen; particularly since "the left" in the Middle East, and even in much of Africa, would be Muslims.



You do realize that in English, "left" (using the political definition) and "liberal" are essentially synoyms? For example, if you look up the definition of "Left" on Google, the second definition is, "
a group or party favoring liberal, socialist, or radical views. 'the Left is preparing to fight presidential elections'"

So if you are a liberal you are part of "The Left" -- so I guess we must assume that you are all those terrible things you are claiming about the Left.



I brought it up because you did -- talking about things like the French revolution.



This is not completely true. For example, one survey shows that 56% of women are Democrats but only 44% of men are Republicans. Even if we accept that being a Democrat makes on liberal, or part of "the Left" (which is a bad assumption), that still only makes your claim half true -- as most males are not "Right."



Strange, I hear the opposite -- even from "the Left."



I didn't claim it had never happened, just that it hasn't happened often -- particularly in the last 50 years. But my bigger point was, what does "white far right wingers" have to do with "the Left." The two groups are polar opposites.

Of course, I think this is giving us a view into your mindset -- in your World you put every person/group you disagree with into some odd category of "Left," that your term has nothing to do with political beliefs, just is whatever groups fit your narrative into for a Christian hating bogeyman.



Then I'd suggest you need to read more documentaries and historical articles.

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you really missed all the right wingers saying this? wow.

and so what if they are muslims? they still coperate with the left in europe and usa...i know plenty of the left in middle east....they are using the same rhetoric as the left in europe and usa...

liberals are center, in the middle, they share much with the left. but the left is the left, they are on the far left site. they call themself communists, feminists, anarchists...

can you show me any link where the left stands up for opressed non-white christians in middle east or africa, i really want to see it.

thats a lie, there have been more than 3 attacks on black churches the last 5 years. you are trying to hide it away, for some strange reason.

nope, i dont think that everyone who dont agree with me is "left". but its eazy to spot a leftists, they always talk about how evil those damm christians are and how peaceful all other religions are .

you watch documenteries, you dont read them. show me any documentery and historical books or articles that mention any other religion being violent in the past ,since you claim it exists, then show me.

KCfromNC said:

Honestly, this looks like a lot of other threads just with worse English. Notice how the rhetoric falls apart when the talking points aren't repeated correctly?

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i am not american, english is 3rd for me

evoeth said:

What a bunch of inchoate nonsense.

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then you need to be more political active to see what i see.

Speedwell said:

Except for the Christian leftists, of course.

Did you know that the Pledge of Allegiance was written by a Christian leftist?

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christians leftists are very hated by non-christian leftists.

LoAmmi said:

I'm on the left. A social democrat to be precise. I don't think "all christans are nazis". Your point disproven, you should retract it.

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how can a jew respect christians after all the bad stuff christians did to your religion?

Serbian_W0lf said:

you are lucky. most christians in the left gets kicked out.

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Kicked out of what?

the left are socialists, feminists, pro gay rights, communists. most of them have pink hair and weird clothes.

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That's as silly & as false as if somebody said that all men on the right are Trump supporters, love Alex Jones & are 30 year olds who've never had a girlfriend.

i brought it up to prove that the left is anti-christians, they never talk about other religions violent past..

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Well you've done a really poor job attempting to prove that, lol.

Serbian_W0lf said:

yes all leftists think that all christians are nazis.

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Hi. Leftist here. Christians are not Nazis.

I don't know where you'd get this idea from.

Serbian_W0lf said:

christians leftists are very hated by non-christian leftists.

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On whatever planet you live on, maybe. Not this one. Here, Christian and non-Christian leftists get along pretty well. It's right-wing Christians who hate leftist Christians.

Serbian_W0lf said:

how can a jew respect christians after all the bad stuff christians did to your religion?

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A few reasons, actually. One, there's what? 2 billion Christians in the world and let's just go crazy and say that less than 10% of them have ever done anything bad to me, my religion, or my people. Two, most of this stuff is from centuries ago. Lots of history is terrible. I prefer to look at today for judging folks.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/09/internet-social-media-fairness-not-government-business/

Interesting perspective^^^

In the end, internet freedom is bigger than Facebook, and Google Youtube, and Twitter combined.

Dennis Prager is still very much available on the internet, even if the main engines and formats are run by petulant little leftists who give into peer pressure from the bullies that they answer to.
I imagine that this Jones fellow can still be found too.

Censorship makes these venues less useful than internet sites that allow greater access to the information that the searchers want. Limiting access to information is a risky business choice in a competitive information environment, where people ultimately will go to sites that give them the information that they are looking for more easily.

I don't think that freedom is going to be a problem for conservatives in the long run, even of that freedom now means allowing leftists running these sites to continue to be the biased partisans that they have now been exposed to be.

I don't think that even governments have the ability to squeeze off the pipes of information completely, although giving them more power to regulate will be a blow against freedom nevertheless. One cannot solve the problem of a hole by digging a bigger hole.

A search engine that limits access to Dennis Prager is an inferior product in that way to one that gives broader access to his excellent works.
And a search engine that does not provide access to Alex Jones is one that ignores the right wing lunatic fringe market completely. For sure the lunatic fringe market on the left more than makes up for all of that exponentially, as it is even larger than an Alex Jones audience, but a venue that allows access to both potentially serves more customers, generates more ad money, etc., etc.

Google gives a fantastic product in many ways. But the turnover in internet companies is tremendous, and without government largess, no company in the world is too big to fail.

Make enough bad business decisions and the 'Obama who?' refrain of today will become the 'Google who?' refrain of tomorrow.