Why Free Will is Exaltation of Men Instead of God !

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Thought you might enjoy this quote from Edwards:

657. Free Will. "To place human liberty in a contingency of the will, or the will having nothing to determine it but its being left to happen this way or that, without any determining cause, is contrary to all use and custom of language. It is as far from the meaning of the words ‘freedom’ or ‘liberty’ in their original and common acceptation as the east is from the west. The original and proper meaning of a man’s being free or at liberty is that he is in such a state that he may act his pleasure and do what he will, and there never was any other meaning thought of till philosophers and metaphysicians took it in hand to fix a new meaning to the words.

And besides, when liberty is understood not for this but for that contingency or sovereignty of the will, as some call it, it not only has not its original true meaning but no meaning at all. The word ‘liberty’ used in that way is without any sense. It is a word without any notion or distinct consistent meaning to answer it. For the will to be determined without any determining cause is what nobody has any notion of any more than they have of a thing’s coming out of nothing without any cause. And to suppose that the will does firstly determine itself, or determine itself in its first volition or choice, is a contradiction. For it supposes that there is a volition or act of the will before the first act which is the determining cause of that first act." Jonathan Edwards, Freedom of the Will
Edwards has been thoroughly refuted many times. For Edwards, one is "free" as long as one can choose in accordance with his greatest desire/motive, etc. But he also holds that the greatest desire/motive force is determined by God, so that we cannot help but to choose as we choose (making even the word "choose" incoherent since there are never any real options available to us to choose from).

For more on that see here:John Piper on God Ordaining All Sin And Evil Part 1: An Arminian Response to Piper’s First “Question”

And here:

The Necessitarian Calvinist Argument From Strongest Motive Force is Based on Circular Reasoning

As far as Edwards' infinite regress, the answer is that the will itself is the cause of the choice. It is a full and adequate cause on its own, because God made it that way. Therefore, it is nonsense to ask what caused the cause to cause the cause, etc., and it is false to suggest that the volition has no cause. It does, the agent who makes the choice based on his God given capacity to exercise his will in choosing. Not that complicated. Nearly all of Edwards' arguments are a fruitless exercise in question begging.
 
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That is a man-made doctrine easily disproved by just one example from many examples-

Romans 2:14 "For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:"
Not seeing how that passage disproves anything I have said. Feel free to explain.
 
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Yes, God is not willing that any should perish. He sent Christ to die for the sin of the whole world. Yet many do not believe and many perish. So this shows that men can resist God and of their own will deny him. Every man is tempted when he is drawn away of his own lust and enticed...

AMEN! Exactly right. 2 Peter 3:9 poses a real problem for those who reject free will. You must draw one of two conclusions.

A. God is not predetermining any to go to hell and thus all will be saved, or

B. God is a schizophrenic who says one thing and yet does another.

Both are unsettling and entirely unscriptural.
 
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According to 2 Peter 3:9 is God willing that any should perish? That's a simple yes or no answer.
A Calvinist would tell you that the word "usward" is only referring to the elect. Like God is only not willing that the elect should perish.

But that is refuted by the word "all" as in all should come to repentance.
The Greek word for all is "pas" G3956 and includes every possible declension.
No one is not covered by pas.
 
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A Calvinist would tell you that the word "usward" is only referring to the elect. Like God is only not willing that the elect should perish.

But that is refuted by the word "all" as in all should come to repentance.
The Greek word for all is "pas" G3956 and includes every possible declension.
No one is not covered by pas.

Very good point. Even if we allow them the possibility that it only means the elect and take pause here, the Calvinist's confusion should be cleared right up by Paul's letter to Timothy. (1 Timothy 2:4) Where we are clearly told that God desires "ALL" men to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth. Here we are told nothing about only an "usward" or an elect. It clearly means God desires all men to be saved. That renders Peter's comment to mean all and not the elect.

Thank you for your reply.
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Yes, God gives grace for grace (John 1) and that grace is the free gift that came upon all men (Romans 5). This gift is the seed, or word of God sown in their hearts (Luke 8 Hebrews 4:12,13 KJV Romans 2:14,15 KJV, Romans 1:18,19 KJV, 1 John 3:9 KJV etc etc)this is the true Light that lighteth every man that cometh into the world (John 1:9 KJV). This gift was purchased for all by the work of Jesus Christ come in the flesh, the Word was made flesh and he died and was burried and rose again (1 Cor 15:1-4 KJV). All who come unto him will believe the gospel and if they hate the light they are then condemned, not before (John 3).
Thanks for sharing. I agree, but would like more information on sinners not being condemned. "Not before" (John 3).
The free gift is Christ himself given to men in their hearts as well as his come in the flesh. Jesus Christ dwells in the heart by faith. This is when men are born again. They have repented of their own dead works and turned to God's righteousness for salvation. That righteousness was witness by the law and the prophets and known by Jesus Christ come and through his death and resurrection for all who would believe.

So God draws men inwardly by His Light and reproves them. If they hate this light they are condemned, but f they come to the light to have their deeds made manifest they will have more light given.

Yea, I beg to differ. Sinners are saved solely by who Jesus is, and what He has accomplished through His active/passive obedience unto the Cross!




What I am speaking of is a great mystery in scripture and wonderous.[/QUOTE]
Yes, God gives grace for grace (John 1) and that grace is the free gift that came upon all men (Romans 5). This gift is the seed, or word of God sown in their hearts (Luke 8 Hebrews 4:12,13 KJV Romans 2:14,15 KJV, Romans 1:18,19 KJV, 1 John 3:9 KJV etc etc)this is the true Light that lighteth every man that cometh into the world (John 1:9 KJV). This gift was purchased for all by the work of Jesus Christ come in the flesh, the Word was made flesh and he died and was burried and rose again (1 Cor 15:1-4 KJV). All who come unto him will believe the gospel and if they hate the light they are then condemned, not before (John 3). The free gift is Christ himself given to men in their hearts as well as his come in the flesh. Jesus Christ dwells in the heart by faith. This is when men are born again. They have repented of their own dead works and turned to God's righteousness for salvation. That righteousness was witness by the law and the prophets and known by Jesus Christ come and through his death and resurrection for all who would believe.

So God draws men inwardly by His Light and reproves them. If they hate this light they are condemned, but f they come to the light to have their deeds made manifest they will have more light given .

"19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God."(John 3:19-21 KJV)

"13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.

14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light."(Ephesians 5:13,14 KJV)

John 1:9
That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world."


Acts 17:27
"That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:"


What I am speaking of is a great mystery in scripture and wonderous.

Sorry for the delay. Dealing with a lot of pain; had two knee surgeries; waiting for total knee replacement. Then back surgery. So I'm not ignoring you.

I have a question before I reply. What is your religion background?
 
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Chapter IX: Of Free Will


The problem with the Westminster confession is that while it contains some things that are true, and a good list of references, not everything it claims is actually supported by the verses it cites. It reads in definitions and meanings and philosophies that the verses do not mandate in many cases.

There is a general article on it hear that gets into how it is a mixed bag of good and bad, and the dangers that can crop up if someone or a church group starts treating it as infallible truth or equivalent to scripture.
Christians Together : The Westminster Confession: a critique

More specifically on IX though:

1. God hath endued the will of man with that natural liberty, that it is neither forced, nor, by any absolute necessity of nature, determined to good, or evil (Matthew 17:12; James 1:14; Deuturonomy 30:19; Isaiah 7:11-12†; John 5:40†; James 4:7†).

While what they mean by will and natural liberty is unclear, the verse references given all do support that thought that man can choose to do evil things or choose to do good things. Other verses could be added to this: Josh 24:15, Matt 7:13, Rom 10:10, Acts 17:26-17, Rome 2:13-16, Ezek 33:12-13, etc.

2. Man, in his state of innocency, had freedom, and power to will and to do that which was good and well pleasing to God (Eccl 7:29; Genesis 1:26; Philippians 2:13‡; Colossians 3:10†); but yet, mutably, so that he might fall from it (Genesis 2:16-17; 3:6).

This section suffers from being ambiguous, as it doesn't really describe whether man is mutable by his own actions or God made man imperfect. The scriptures cited, however, make it very clear that God made man in his image and upright but that it was man who went off in 'search of many schemes.' So while man (and angels) were made with the capacity to rebel, this rebellion was not caused or mandated by God.

Phil 2:13 and Col 3:10 are irrelevant support verses for this section as they specifically addressing Christians who have the indwelling Spirit and are made a new creation in Christ, not Adam and Eve at the time of creation. Adam and Eve did not have the indwelling Holy Spirit and were not new creations in Christ.

3. Man, by his fall into a state of sin, hath wholly lost all ability of will to any spiritual good accompanying salvation (Romans 5:6; 8:7; John 6:44, 65†; 15:5): so as, a natural man, being altogether averse from that good (Romans 3:10, 12), and dead in sin (Ephesians 2:1, 5; Colossians 2:13), is not able, by his own strength, to convert himself, or to prepare himself thereunto (John 6:44, 65; 3:3, 5-6†; Ephesians 2:2-5; 1 Corinthians 2:14; Titus 3:3-5).

The section here is not faithful to the scripture text, and makes up philosophical claims whole cloth.

Firstly, the first few support verses do not go so far as to say man can do no spiritual good 'accompanying salvation:'

Rom 5:6 says that when we were powerless Christ died for the ungodly. In the context of the passage it is very clear what we were powerless to do - be justified, reconciled to God, and receive eternal life. It also is very clear when that powerlessness ended - when Christ died! Now we could be justified, reconciled to God, and given eternal life - via faith in Christ! The whole point of the passage is that where there was no hope for us under sin and the law there *is* hope for us under Christ.

Rom 8:7 is, in context, about the mind of unbelievers as contrasted with Christians who have the indwelling Spirit and the mind of Christ. "The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so." Not being able to submit to God's *law,* which no unbeliever can do, says nothing about being without hope, unable to repent, unable to respond to the gospel in faith, unable to understand that Christ is Saviour and He was sinless and so His blood can cover our sinfulness - etc. We receive the Spirit (Rom 8:14-16) after we have faith (Gal 3:2, Acts 18:15, Gal 3:14) - not before.

John 6:44-45 also doesn't go so far as the Confession. It states man cannot come to Christ without the Father drawing - but the Father draws all by Christ's death (Jn 12:32.) Jn 6:65 also mentions that the Father must grant someone be able to come - i.e. the Father's grace is required. This grace is also given to all through Christ, which is why salvation is 'by grace.' The passage in its context also mentions many things unbelievers must do if they want to do the works of God or come to Christ:
-Believe in the one God sent (Jn 6:28-40)
- Hear the Father and Learn from Him (Jn 6:45)
- Eat Jesus' Flesh/Drink blood i.e. be crucified with Christ and remain in communion with Him (Jn 6:53-59)

So while Jesus points out that they couldn't do anything without the grace of the Father, He specifically puts the choice to come to Him or not, feed on Him or not, and to listen to the Father and learn on their shoulders. This makes a lot of sense considering the Jewish mentality of the era - to them, the Messiah should automatically save them due to their Jewish heritage, and it was an obligation of God's. To them, their personal thoughts on the Messiah and scholars's views on write and wrong were prioritized over humbling themselves and examining scripture.

Jn 15:5: This is a very odd support verse to use as it is strictly about Christians, not non-Christians, and the importance of remaining in Christ. 'Apart from me you can do nothing' is very clearly about bearing spiritual fruit, as Jn 15:4 directly states. Faith is how we are grafted into the vine (Rom 11:17-21,) not something we can only get by being in the vine. The fruit we grow adds to our faith as we abide in Christ (II Pet 1:3-11)

Rom 3:10-12: This verse is about all men, Jew and Gentile alike, being under the power of sin (Rom 3:9.) It is a quote from Psalm 14, and shows that mankind has deliberately turned away from God and to sin and are corrupt and perform vile deeds. These fools are deliberately contrasted with God's people in Psalm 14 and concludes with the hope that God's salvation will come from Zion. By quoting this in Romans, Paul shows that salvation has now come, through Christ. The verses do not say anything about man being unable to do anything, such as respond to the gospel in faith, that accompanies salvation. Rather it shows that man can't save himself via the law as all are corrupt. The passage itself clarifies it's own point:

"Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin. But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith." (Rom 3:20-25)

Note the point was not, 'therefore, since you can't be declared righteous by the law, you cannot even receive Christ's sacrifice by faith.' It was not 'Everyone has fallen short, therefore no one can be conscious of their sin and repent.'

The Westminster confession here completely ignores the context in an attempt to prove a point that the passage itself debunks.

Eph 2:1-5, Col 2:13: The confession is correct that these verses show we were dead in sin, but incorrect in any implication that this means we could not respond to the gospel in faith. Eph 2:8 directly clarifies that we are saved through faith - we don't get faith after salvation. Col 2:12 clarifies that our 'dead selves' are buried with Christ in baptism and that we are raised with Christ *through faith,* and that this is how God makes us alive with Christ in Col 2:13. We aren't made alive first so we can 'get faith.'

John 3:3, Jn 3:5-6: These verse states that one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again." This is true, as we literally cannot enter the kingdom of God in the future until we recieve new spiritual bodies, and we figuratively cannot enter the kingdom of God in the present until we are raised to new life in Christ and have the spirit. But none of that means that a person cannot have faith! Again as Col 2:12-13 shows, faith comes prior to us being raised in Christ (the new birth.)

1 Corinthians 2:14: This is another very odd choice of support verse, as it is specifically speaking of how Christians are given discernment by the indwelling spirit, and how the Spirit guides us in the wisdom of spiritual things. Nothing in the passage supports the idea that 'faith' is something we can only have or learn about once given the spirit - especially as scripture is very clear that faith is a *prerequisite* for receiving the spirit.

Titus 3:3-5: This passage just shows that as unbelievers we were once enslaved to our own pleasures and practiced all manner of malice and hate. But *then* the kindness and love of God appeared! A light in our darkness! God by His mercy saved us through the washing and renewal by the Holy Spirit (which again, as Col 2:12-13 shows, happens *after* faith) and justified us by His grace (which as we know from Rom 5:1 and other passages also happens through faith, not prior to it.) Nothing in the passage says man cannot see the kindness and love of God that appeared in Christ or respond to it. Nothing says man cannot respond in faith.
 
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The problem with the Westminster confession is that while it contains some things that are true, and a good list of references, not everything it claims is actually supported by the verses it cites. It reads in definitions and meanings and philosophies that the verses do not mandate in many cases.

There is a general article on it hear that gets into how it is a mixed bag of good and bad, and the dangers that can crop up if someone or a church group starts treating it as infallible truth or equivalent to scripture.

That's strange, I had no intention to debate, or write a novel in response. Thanks for sharing an opposing opinion. In my opinion, the problem is not with the WCF, rather in the presuppositions of the opposition in how they approach and interpret Scripture. WCF has held up nicely for more than three hundred years. The 1689 London Baptist Confession nearly mirrors it.
 
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That's strange, I had no intention to debate, or write a novel in response. Thanks for sharing an opposing opinion. In my opinion, the problem is not with the WCF, rather in the presuppositions of the opposition in how they approach and interpret Scripture. WCF has held up nicely for more than three hundred years. The 1689 London Baptist Confession nearly mirrors it.

I just listed countless examples of how the Westminster Confession is using 'support' verses out of context and/or directly contradicting the actual text of the scripture. That isn't a problem with 'presuppositions of the opposition' but with the Confession using eisegesis to warp scripture and just hope no one looks closely. There are many good things in the Confession, which is one reason it is widespread. But that doesn't make it perfect, nor make it superior to scripture, nor make it immune to critique. Appealing to the fact that people use it or think highly of it is a logical fallacy. It either stands up to scripture or it doesn't. We can acknowledge what's good without having to swallow the obviously incorrect.
 
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I just listed countless examples of how the Westminster Confession is using 'support' verses out of context and/or directly contradicting the actual text of the scripture.

You think you have, that is in your own mind, and that is why I call it what it is, an opinion.

That isn't a problem with 'presuppositions of the opposition' but with the Confession using eisegesis to warp scripture and just hope no one looks closely.

Hope no one looks closely? Are you kidding? WCF has been the primary Confessional standard in Presbyterian Churches (and there are many) for more than three hundred years. It was drawn up over a period of five years by an assembly of roughly 121 ministers, it was also adopted in the Church of Scotland. Countless people have more than looked closely, including the Baptists as noted earlier with the LBC.

There are many good things in the Confession, which is one reason it is widespread. But that doesn't make it perfect, nor make it superior to scripture, nor make it immune to critique. Appealing to the fact that people use it or think highly of it is a logical fallacy. It either stands up to scripture or it doesn't. We can acknowledge what's good without having to swallow the obviously incorrect.

All Creeds and Confessions are subordinate standards, nevertheless they have more authority than the eisegesis written online by unknown Solo MeA's. The WCF is perhaps the most accurate statement of faith based on Scripture ever penned, and perhaps because so many were involved and paying close attention.
 
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All Creeds and Confessions are subordinate standards, nevertheless they have more authority than the eisegesis written online by unknown Solo MeA's. The WCF is perhaps the most accurate statement of faith based on Scripture ever penned, and perhaps because so many were involved and paying close attention.

I just went through many examples of contradictions within its own support verses, out of context verses, etc. Many of those mistakes - such as applying verses about Christians to unbelievers, ignoring the verse just prior which said the exact opposite of their claim, ignoring context, etc. are not possible if one is 'looking closely' - or even just looking to take the scripture in its most obvious contextual sense.

Much of the Confession is fine, and it is impressive in its breadth of coverage. However, it is not the 'most accurate statement of faith ever penned' - there are many (shorter) creeds, such as the Apostles Creed, that don't run into so many obvious contradictions or read philosophy and personal bias into verse fragments while ignoring the verse's actual claims.

For any topic like this, scripture needs to be the #1 primary source of information. If a man-made creed or theory contradicts scripture, preference goes to scripture no matter how popular the creed is. Appeal to authority is a fallacy. The reason appeal to scripture works is because Christians begin with the axiom that scripture is infallible, at least in its original manuscripts, as the inspired word of God.

Man made texts do not gain that axiom, no matter how many scholars work on them. And a multitude of scholars doesn't mean much if they all share similar biases. (For example, the Westminster confession also states that the Pope is the Antichrist. While this is a possible view, would anyone claim that it is the only potential possibility for the Antichrist that scripture allows for? The Westminster Confessions also advocate for infant baptism and that sprinkling is preferred to immersion - something the majority of Protestants reject.)

Furthermore, there was dissent among those who worked on it - but it passed by the will of the majority and not unanimous agreement. One of the specific goals of it was to support the Doctrines of Calvin and the reformation. It is highly valuable as a treatise on many Christian principles, but also has some serious flaws.
 
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Is God sending people to hell without a choice?
Another good point that i feel destroys Calvinism and a few of their points is infant salvation. Ask a Calvinist what happens to a one day old child that dies? Were they saved by the grace of God through Christ death? Or are they damned?

I believe they are ALL saved and in grace through Christ death for them. They still have a sin nature and need a saviour. But sin has not become alive in them until they have sin revive and they die Romans 7:9 KJV. This is when they understand the commandment and then they know to do good and do it not. Their sin revives ( or their sin nature) . This some call the age of accountabilty. Jesus said similar when he said the only time when men are condemned is when they hate the light because their deeds are evil. But a child has not done actual transgression yet until he knows to do good. He has not done good or evil yet. And sin is not imputed where there is no law. And where no law is there is o transgression. A infant is covered in grace I believe and has the true Light lighting them until they actually transgress a known law. This they will do when their sin nature is revived.

So in this sense all peoples who come into the world are saved by the grace of Christ until they have sin revive and they die and until they actually hate the light because their deeds are evil.

This means that truly all we like sheep have gone astray. And that Christ died for all. Just as in Adam all die so also the free gift came upon all through Christ unto the justification of life.

Jesus also blessed the infants and said of such are the kingdom of God.

I have heard some strained arguments to try and avoid this consequence about infant salvation.
 
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Thanks for sharing. I agree, but would like more information on sinners not being condemned. "Not before" (John 3).


Yea, I beg to differ. Sinners are saved solely by who Jesus is, and what He has accomplished through His active/passive obedience unto the Cross!




What I am speaking of is a great mystery in scripture and wonderous.


Sorry for the delay. Dealing with a lot of pain; had two knee surgeries; waiting for total knee replacement. Then back surgery. So I'm not ignoring you.

I have a question before I reply. What is your religion background?[/QUOTE]
I was brought up a Roman catholic. Then I went astray and God brought me back and I was led out of the Roman catholic system and from the many false doctrines I was taught. Then i went to a Pentecostal church for a few years but I was also meeting in homes around that time and we eventually left the Pentecostal denomination and met in homes with other believers around Christ. This we did for about 18 years and had many home meetings and I have visited many other assemblies over the years evangelical, Brethren, Church of God, etc etc etc. But I had to come out of all man made religion and gather with the saints in Christ and wait on him.

I have been preaching, ministering and helping to plant churches for many years. I also gather in many places with others. My work for the last while has been more itinerant. But i still gather with the saints .

Here is a thread I posted that may give some more understanding of the order God has drawn us into in Christ

Gods Order in the body of Christ

The Pastor King (New)

"the Church which meets in their house"

Should Ministers get paid???
 
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Sorry Bruce but I'd say you just did double talk. You offered that human beings have some degree of free choice but took it all away by saying men can't take credit for free will or actual choices? Which is it! So you seek to appeal to the non-Calvinist but ride right in with the if you think anything was your choice it's ego and pride. :scratch:
God gets all the credit for our being able to choose at all, but because of original (and ongoing) sin, our choices are corrupted.
“The biblical doctrine of 'total depravity' means neither that all humans are equally depraved, nor that nobody is capable of any good, but rather that no part of any human person (mind, emotions, conscience, will, etc.) has remained untainted by the fall.”
(John R.W. Stott)
Any truly good choices that we make (like for God) are the result of God's influence in our life and nothing else. We have nothing that we can boast about. But our egos want to take credit anyway. Radical synergism supports this self-promoting error.
 
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How can a man who sees he is drowning take any credit for calling out to a Savior and being saved?
Isn't that the purpose of the law to show man his sinful state and his need for a Savior?

Exactly! Faith is in every way contrasted with boasting. Realizing and confessing, 'I'm a sinner and cannot achieve salvation by my own merit' isn't bragging, it's humbling oneself before God. Realizing that God has revealed the way of salvation in Christ, and coming into that light is not bragging - it's showing that you acknowledge that God's truth and way is superior to your own desires and wisdom. Etc.

The idea that if fallen man could avail himself of the grace God gave by revealing Christ to us and respond to the gospel in faith would somehow be 'bragging' or 'working for part of salvation,' etc. is earthly philosophy, not anything taught in scripture.

What does it mean in Rom 3:27 that boasting is excluded because of the law that requires faith?
 
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That is a man-made doctrine easily disproved by just one example from many examples-

Romans 2:14 "For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:"
Ephesians 1(11): If all things are already after his will , how can you have your own free will, if all things are already after his will : OBVIOUSLY YOU CANNOT : END OF STORY !!!
 
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Ephesians 1(11): If all things are already after his will , how can you have your own free will, if all things are already after his will : OBVIOUSLY YOU CANNOT : END OF STORY !!!
Ephesians 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

This is what He worked after the counsel of His own will.
God did not choose some to believe and the rest can go to Hell. He wants everybody to get saved. 1 Timothy 2:4
2 Peter 3:9
 
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Ephesians 1(11): If all things are already after his will , how can you have your own free will, if all things are already after his will : OBVIOUSLY YOU CANNOT : END OF STORY !!!

Eph 1:11 says nothing about God willing the actions and choices of ever individual. Please check the actual text and the context.

Here is the verse with some of its context. Note, specifically, what the passage mentions as the 'will of God.' (Hint: it has nothing to do with willing the actions/choices of individuals.)

"With all wisdom and understanding, he made known to us the mystery of his will according to his good pleasure, which he purposed in Christ, to be put into effect when the times reach their fulfillment—to bring unity to all things in heaven and on earth under Christ. In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will, in order that we, who were the first to put our hope in Christ, might be for the praise of his glory. And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory." Eph 1:10-14

God's will is that 'all things' be brought to unity under Christ.
This doesn't mean that all will be saved, but that all things will be under Christ's authority. We (believers, the audience of this passage, who hope in Christ) are also chosen for the praise of God's glory. This is according to the plan of God who works out everything in accordance with His will. Is the plan to make some people have faith or some people hope in Christ? No - the plan is that those who believe are included in Christ, and this shows God's glory. God had the plan that believers would be included in Christ before time began.
 
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