Do you know why a Christian cannot willfully sin

1stcenturylady · Jun 18, 2018

brinny said:
I am not lying.

I am merely asking for clarification of something that you raised yourself in this thread.

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Tree of Life · Jun 18, 2018

@1stcenturylady Don’t forget to address my last post!

brinny · Jun 18, 2018

1stcenturylady said:
I'm really curious if anyone knows the answer to the title question now. Or do you still believe you can't do anything BUT sin?

It seems apparent that Christians DO sin, doesn't it?

Even according to the tone and accusations in this thread.

Amen?

The answer speaks for itself.

The answer is "Yes".

brinny · Jun 18, 2018

1stcenturylady said:
And I have answered. Period.

No.

You haven't.

There's no need for anger.

1stcenturylady · Jun 18, 2018

brinny said:
No.

You haven't.

There's no need for anger.

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brinny · Jun 18, 2018

1stcenturylady said:
You can still bear the consequences of unintentional sin. It is the difference between a babe in Christ still on milk, and a mature Christian who can now handle meat.

The answer then, to your question posed in the title is "yes".

Thank you.

1stcenturylady · Jun 18, 2018

brinny said:
The answer then, to your question posed in the title is "yes".

Thank you.

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brinny · Jun 18, 2018

1stcenturylady said:
So you are saying you know why a Christian cannot willfully sin? Good. Then why can't you relate to what I've been saying? You seem to be at odds with 1 John 3:9

a Christian cannot willfully sin?

You did.

You say you were a Christian at the time.

What happened?

Anand Prabhu Antony · Jun 18, 2018

brinny said:
Peter also deceived everyone when he ate with his Gentile brothers and wanted to hide it because he didn't love his Gentile brothers in Christ.

Paul had to chastise him for such bigotry.

Was he a Christian/saved?

Did he sin?

Regarding two sins I am serious to myself that leads to eternal condemnation.

1. Mark 3:28
"whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit does not have forgiveness forever, but is guilty of an eternal sin.."

2. 1 Corinthians 6:18-19
"Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a person commits is outside his body, but the one who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?".

1 Corinthians 3:16-17
"Do you not know that you are God’s temple and the Spirit of God dwells in you? If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy this one. For God’s temple is holy, which you are".

1 Thessalonians 4:3-5
For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality; that each of you know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor, not in lustful passion, just as also the Gentiles who do not know God..."

Hebrews 10:26-29
For if we keep on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment and a fury of fire that is about to consume the adversaries. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much worse punishment do you think the person will be considered worthy of who treats with disdain the Son of God and who considers ordinary the blood of the covenant by which he was made holy and who insults the Spirit of grace?

But, when Peter showed partiality for jews, it was corrected by Paul, which is not a serious sin, but Peter with humility accepted the correction from Paul, who is younger to him.

1stcenturylady · Jun 18, 2018

brinny said:
You did.

You say you were a Christian at the time.

What happened?

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brinny · Jun 18, 2018

@1stcenturylady, please see post #122.

brinny · Jun 18, 2018

Anand Prabhu Antony said:
Regarding two sins I am serious to myself that leads to eternal condemnation.

1. Mark 3:28
"whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit does not have forgiveness forever, but is guilty of an eternal sin.."

2. 1 Corinthians 6:18-19
"Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a person commits is outside his body, but the one who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?".

1 Corinthians 3:16-17
"Do you not know that you are God’s temple and the Spirit of God dwells in you? If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy this one. For God’s temple is holy, which you are".

1 Thessalonians 4:3-5
For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality; that each of you know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor, not in lustful passion, just as also the Gentiles who do not know God..."

Hebrews 10:26-29
For if we keep on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment and a fury of fire that is about to consume the adversaries. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much worse punishment do you think the person will be considered worthy of who treats with disdain the Son of God and who considers ordinary the blood of the covenant by which he was made holy and who insults the Spirit of grace?

But, when Peter showed partiality for jews, it was corrected by Paul, which is not a serious sin, but Peter with humility accepted the correction from Paul, who is younger to him.

s not a serious sin

Yet he sinned.

Was he a "Christian"/saved when he sinned?

1stcenturylady · Jun 18, 2018

Anand Prabhu Antony said:
Regarding two sins I am serious to myself that leads to eternal condemnation.

1. Mark 3:28
"whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit does not have forgiveness forever, but is guilty of an eternal sin.."

2. 1 Corinthians 6:18-19
"Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a person commits is outside his body, but the one who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?".

1 Corinthians 3:16-17
"Do you not know that you are God’s temple and the Spirit of God dwells in you? If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy this one. For God’s temple is holy, which you are".

1 Thessalonians 4:3-5
For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality; that each of you know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor, not in lustful passion, just as also the Gentiles who do not know God..."

Hebrews 10:26-29
For if we keep on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment and a fury of fire that is about to consume the adversaries. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much worse punishment do you think the person will be considered worthy of who treats with disdain the Son of God and who considers ordinary the blood of the covenant by which he was made holy and who insults the Spirit of grace?

But, when Peter showed partiality for jews, it was corrected by Paul, which is not a serious sin, but Peter with humility accepted the correction from Paul, who is younger to him.

What do you think may be the sin unto death of 1 John 5:16

1stcenturylady · Jun 18, 2018

Tree of Life said:
As far as I can tell, you are suggesting that the last time you sinned was in the late 1980s.

Since that time, are you saying that you have perfectly loved God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength and perfectly loved your neighbor as yourself?

Since that time are you saying that you’ve been perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect?

Since that time have you had no idolatry or false worship in the heart and have relied and depended upon God alone for all things?

Since that time has your heart been free of all sinful anger?

Since that time have you perfectly forgiven all those who sin against you and never desired to take vengeance upon them?

Since that time has your heart been free from all covetousness?

Since that time have you had perfect zeal in your heart for the things of God at all times?

Since that time have you never once been resentful, boastful, or insisted upon your own way?

Since that time have you been perfectly devoted to the Lord?

Since that time have you glorified God in everything that you do?

Yes, praise God! The last time I sinned unintentionally that became known to me later was in 1989 through 1990. I am free. And the last time I committed a willful sin was in 1977. And do you know what is the frosting on the cake? All my prayers are answered.

1 John 3:19-23
19 And by this we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before Him. 20 For if our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and knows all things. 21 Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence toward God. 22 And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. 23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment.

brinny · Jun 18, 2018

1stcenturylady said:
Don't you know the difference between willful sin and unintentional sin? Or are you one of those who think all sin is willful? If so, then no wonder you are badgering me.

You yourself stated it was "willfull".

You yourself stated that you willfully sinned. You were a Christian/saved at the time, correct?

Apparently Christians can and do sin, according to your own words.

This answers your own question.

Amen?

By the way, false accusations are a sin.

Anand Prabhu Antony · Jun 18, 2018

brinny said:
Yet he sinned.

Was he a "Christian"/saved when he sinned?

If Peter willfully sins, he would have justified it with ego against Paul, but he accepted the correction from Paul with humility. Who are we to accuse Apostle Peter?. Kindly consider your words when stating against Apostles.

1stcenturylady · Jun 18, 2018

brinny said:
You yourself stated it was "willfull".

You yourself stated that you willfully sinned. You were a Christian/saved at the time, correct?

Apparently Christians can and do sin, according to your own words.

This answers your own question.

Amen?

By the way, false accusations are a sin.

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brinny · Jun 18, 2018

Anand Prabhu Antony said:
If Peter willfully sins, he would have justified it, but he accepted the correction from Paul with humility. Who are we to accuse Apostle Peter?. Kindly consider your words when stating against Apostles.

He needed "correction" because he sinned.

Paul himself spoke of this. It is written.

It is not an accusation, brother. It is what is written in God's Word.

The bottom line is that we ALL sin. It is because NONE of us are "perfect", "sin-less".

"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us." ~I John I:8-10

brinny · Jun 18, 2018

1stcenturylady said:
You still don't understand. I never said it was a willful sin against God. If you don't know what a willful sin is, maybe that's the miscommunication in language you are making me suffer.

Yes you did. You said that you willfully disobeyed Him, knowing it was wrong and did it anyway. You said that you put your own will above God's, even though you knew it was wrong.

1stcenturylady · Jun 18, 2018

Anand Prabhu Antony said:
If Peter willfully sins, he would have justified it with ego against Paul, but he accepted the correction from Paul with humility. Who are we to accuse Apostle Peter?. Kindly consider your words when stating against Apostles.

I get uncomfortable with Paul's pride in the telling of his confronting Peter. Peter didn't sin. He sat with the Gentiles and accepted them. But he also ate with the Judaizers who were weaker than the Gentiles. Paul did the same thing! To a Gentile, he became a Gentile, and to the Jews, he became a Jew to win whomever he could to the Lord.

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